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Carbon Zero Computing: Wooden PC

Carbon Zero Computing: Wooden PC

Yuugou: A lot more stylish and also made from wood!

The Telegraph reports today about how PC World is to produce a wood and aluminium PC that's apparently "Carbon Zero".

It claims that, "The retailer will remove the PC's fans - which use up most of the power - and use an aluminium casing that has large ventilation slats that allow the heat to escape and uses fewer materials."

Wow! We've been looking at the wrong things all along! So it's not the hot 130W Quad Core CPUs or 200W graphics cards! It's those 1-3W PC fans that are guzzling all our juice! It seems that no one has informed PC World that fanless PSUs and case designs have been around for ages, and we've been looking at aluminium cases Lian Li and Cooler Master made since the site was launched back in 2001.

Nick Falzone is apparently ahead of his time with Sangaku and Yuuguo and so is Doug Klassen, among many others on our own forums and across the net.

It gets better as it goes on to say, "The keyboard and screen will be encased in wood - either ash or beech. Most PCs are made from steel and reinforced plastic.". No one's suggested that some plastics are easier to recycle? Where are the forests used to make these parts and are they from reputable renewable sources? Or even that extracting Aluminium is a massively power intensive process that uses a lot more electricity, and therefore carbon, than processing Steel. We can only assume PC World is using recycled aluminium exclusively which uses far less energy.

PC World finally hits the nail in the "Roffle coffin", when it says that it can save people's power usage by some "85 percent" dropping the cost of an annual electricity bill from £40 down to just £12. Regardless of the fact the machine alone will set you back nearly £600. So in electrical savings alone you'd only have to use the PC for just over 21 and a half years to make a profit.

PC World will also buy carbon credits from the third world, offsetting the final carbon count of the PC to bring it down to zero.

I suppose PC Worlds ingenuity should be rewarded, but it's just left us at BitHQ laughing our socks off at the implications of PC power usage they've implied. If you really want to save energy, recommend a notebook with a VIA processor, perhaps? And also encourage people to walk or cycle to its stores.

Don't get us wrong, we don't like to waste energy and therefore money as much as the next person, but we're focused on the real goal of getting the component companies to make more efficient products rather that just taking out a few fans from a system. Next time Ms. Patterson (from the photograph on The Telegraph website), talk to a community who knows first, yea?

If you're still able to see through your tears of laughter, let us know what you think in the forums.

Many thanks to reader, Risky, for pointing this gem out to us.

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RTT 18th June 2007, 14:49 Quote
sums it up really. retards!
DougEdey 18th June 2007, 14:57 Quote
£40 a year to run a PC? Isn't a washing machine or tumble dryer or microwave or dishwasher rated higher?
mctigger 18th June 2007, 15:02 Quote
i knew they were stupid, but cum on!!!!
Hiren 18th June 2007, 15:06 Quote
Well that gave me a chuckle.
Henk 18th June 2007, 15:08 Quote
Oh god, look at that mouse below the woman in the picture.
Ergonomics, where are you?
FIBRE+ 18th June 2007, 15:13 Quote
**Checks date** 18th June, no it isn't a joke... That makes me feel a lot more clevererer


Just a reminder, they actually paid people real money to come up with all that
Bladestorm 18th June 2007, 15:30 Quote
Utterly ridiculous, they really dont know what they are talking about do they ? But I cant help wondering how many people will read that and not question it
mclean007 18th June 2007, 15:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by DougEdey
£40 a year to run a PC? Isn't a washing machine or tumble dryer or microwave or dishwasher rated higher?
Possibly, but do you use your washing machine / tumble drier / microwave / dishwasher for 8+ hours a day? :P
DXR_13KE 18th June 2007, 16:25 Quote
holly crud... ROFLMAOBBQWTFLOL.... this is so stupid. No one is that stupid.
you want a 0 carbon pc? make one of recycled aluminum and other stuff and use solar, hydro and wind energy, don't kill trees.
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The retailer will remove the PC's fans - which use up most of the power
DUMB DUMB DUMB :( :( :(

maybe they are thinking of these vantec tornado:
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1169
perplekks45 18th June 2007, 16:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
maybe they are thinking of these vantec tornado:
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1169
Adding the VIA C7:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7/
Quote:
Capable of running up to 2.0GHz with ultra low power consumption of around 20 watts peak power and operating at an average power of less than 1 watt
That might explain how they came up with those numbers. ;)
DXR_13KE 18th June 2007, 16:43 Quote
those via processors look sweet.
greensabbath 18th June 2007, 16:48 Quote
I love how they throw in the little part at the end with the third world countries and their powered wells. Do they even know what carbon zero means? 15% of some bs number does not carbon zero make. Oh but of course the wells that power the family well? More likely to power the factory that makes these pieces of crap.

Those stupid wood cases have been out for a while now (the one the creepy lady is looking at). I was in an article with one :(

EDIT: And another thing, "carbon zero" has to do with how the pc it built too, including all the components along with what happens when they are thrown away. I may not know much but I know they aren't making the pcbs and crap out of cardboard ergo they numbers are even more BS. Someone slap them for me please?
Bindibadgi 18th June 2007, 16:53 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by greensabbath

Those stupid wood cases have been out for a while now (the one the creepy lady is looking at). I was in an article with one :(

And now you're in another article with them LOL! Sorry :o

But this time in a good way.

DXR - Via processors are great if you use a PC to not actually do anything. Atm we've got a 1.5GHz EPIA on the block and it's 10x slower than a Core 2 board: so if it takes you 10x longer to do the same task is it really more cost effective with power for your monitor, your time, everything else in the room that also has to wait for it?
ElThomsono 18th June 2007, 16:58 Quote
Ha, it's got nothing on Krikkit's environmentally friendly recycled case :)
FIBRE+ 18th June 2007, 17:10 Quote
I think someone from BT needs to contact their PR team and drop a few probing questions, I'm sure we all want to know more :p
Bluephoenix 18th June 2007, 17:25 Quote
what are the guys over there smoking, so I can avoid it. :)
M_D_K 18th June 2007, 17:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bluephoenix
what are the guys over there smoking, so I can avoid it. :)


Dunno about avoiding it I'll have some lol, yup pc world is yet again back in the Retard bin.
Fod 18th June 2007, 17:47 Quote
carbon... credits?

let me get that one straight. We as a country put out too much carbon, so to satiate our consciences we 'offset' these by claiming that we're actually using the allowance of some other country?!


HOW THE **** SHOULD THAT EVEN BE ALLOWED TO EXIST AS A CONCEPT!?
completemadness 18th June 2007, 18:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by mctigger
i knew they were stupid, but cum on!!!!
that about sums it up i think
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Originally Posted by Fod
HOW THE **** SHOULD THAT EVEN BE ALLOWED TO EXIST AS A CONCEPT!?
Lol exactly, although i can see that if we pay to make other developing countries use more efficient ways, so that they do not emit as much carbon, that would make sense
I mean, a lot of the currently developed countries could cut carbon emissions quite a lot, if we spent the money to fix the things that are currently wrong, however it would cost a lot of money, so its cheaper to do it to developing countries to keep them from making our mistakes
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It claims that, "The retailer will remove the PC's fans - which use up most of the power - and use an aluminium casing that has large ventilation slats that allow the heat to escape and uses fewer materials."
Perhaps they misinterperated the facts, not realising that while the fans remove waste heat (therefore waste energy, which is a significant amount) removing the fans doesn't fix the problem that the components in the PC are actually wasting a lot of power
Tyr 18th June 2007, 18:11 Quote
Has anyone e-mailed to complain as I think they should revoke their statements and the article. It is ridiculous how you can say anything you want as fact with no details at all in the media.
sam.g.taylor 18th June 2007, 18:36 Quote
WTF is this bull****! Are we sure this isn't a joke/hoax by the folks over at PC World?

I guess it might take less energy to produce, but... come on...
Spaceraver 18th June 2007, 19:06 Quote
Did someone type "touch /dev/brain" by mistake or just "rm /var/iq" That has got to be the utter most horrendous idiocracy i have ever heard.. Makes a certain J. Thompson sound like a Nobel Prize Winner!!
lamboman 18th June 2007, 19:12 Quote
Guys, don't diss these retards. Just because they think that leather uses the most petrol in their cars, and that sleeping makes you tired.
Ramble 18th June 2007, 19:46 Quote
This is one of many reasons why you should never visit PC World.
Pfft, even my PC is carbon neutral, I know any CO2 created from making or powering it will eventually go back into the ground via glorious plants.
completemadness 18th June 2007, 21:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Spaceraver
Did someone type "touch /dev/brain" by mistake or just "rm /var/iq"
you could say that infront of any PCWorld employee and be safe :p
Bluephoenix 18th June 2007, 21:22 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaceraver
Did someone type "touch /dev/brain" by mistake or just "rm /var/iq"

ROFL

that is too good.
boiled_elephant 18th June 2007, 22:33 Quote
"That's right - we discovered that all you have to do to make a PC efficient is REMOVE all the cooling solutions and build it out of something that will trap less heat, say...wood!"
"Wait...why have people been making houses out of wood for thousands of years, again?"
"Shut up!"

If Bob Geldof made computers, this is what he'd dream up :(
boiled_elephant 18th June 2007, 22:39 Quote
...also, it's a pointless cheap-shot remark, but does that wood-line design look like it's got a swastika in it to anyone?
Major 18th June 2007, 23:40 Quote
Save Carbon, DESTROY RAINFORESTS, YES!
x06jsp 18th June 2007, 23:41 Quote
what a load of bull!!!!!!!!!!!!! fans using up most of the power????????? huh............. fooooooooollllllllllllllllsssssssssssssssss
Bluephoenix 19th June 2007, 01:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by boiled_elephant
...also, it's a pointless cheap-shot remark, but does that wood-line design look like it's got a swastika in it to anyone?

why are you bashing Mr. Falzone's incredible work? that is a mod that has nothing to do with PC World (thank heaven).
DXR_13KE 19th June 2007, 01:39 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by boiled_elephant
...also, it's a pointless cheap-shot remark, but does that wood-line design look like it's got a swastika in it to anyone?

what rock have you been living under?
ZERO <ibis> 19th June 2007, 02:27 Quote
This is just another example of how industries are taking advantage of global warming fanatics to push their own crazy products. They make claims that anyone with a brain can see though but that does not matter because it says that it is "good for the environment" right on it. These people care more about just changing things in general than protecting the environment and thus they support every crazy idea like this.

Lets switch to clean energy like hydrogen. It only gives off water vapor not the evil co2 that is a green house gas and kills us all. O crap water vapor is also a green house gas and takes up an even bigger amount of the atmosphere than co2. Well looks like "clean" energy killed the word too :(
greensabbath 19th June 2007, 02:55 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by boiled_elephant
...also, it's a pointless cheap-shot remark, but does that wood-line design look like it's got a swastika in it to anyone?

I know I shouldn't even be replying to this but, um, do you know what a swastika looks like? Its not in there, trust me.
Sebbo 19th June 2007, 04:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by greensabbath
Someone slap them for me please?

with pleasure
Quote:

* PC_World_and_The_Telegraph has joined #jicks
<Kilroy> Good morning PC_World_and_The_Telegraph
* Sebbs slaps PC_World_and_The_Telegraph around a bit with a large trout
* Kingo snickers
* Kingo grabs PC_World_and_The_Telegraph by the collar and spins it into the next life

i can kind of see what boiled_elephant means...pieces of the metal form a right-facing swastika, such as
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HinduSwastika.svg
except the arms create a square in the centre
Tyinsar 19th June 2007, 06:00 Quote
:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaceraver
Did someone type "touch /dev/brain" by mistake or just "rm /var/iq" ...
:) ;)
Bindibadgi 19th June 2007, 10:19 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by boiled_elephant
...also, it's a pointless cheap-shot remark, but does that wood-line design look like it's got a swastika in it to anyone?

Uh, no.

But even if it did, since it's based on a Japanese styling and East Asia have many Buddists, the Swastika is used as a sign of protection. It's only Nazi Germany that adopted it as their symbol some thousand+ years later.
DougEdey 19th June 2007, 10:32 Quote
Wasn't the Asian/Japanese styling the mirror image?
Risky 19th June 2007, 11:59 Quote
Back on topic, this is an example of how the concern about the enviroment has gone rather off the rails with the gimmicry of "Zero-Carbon".

You can produce a highly energy efficient PC, or use recyled materials in it's production or far that matter recycle parts of discard PCs (a area in which BiT-tech members probably excell). All these a practical and possibel, but rather dull and hard to make a splash in the sunday papers.

Instead we have Zero-carbon this or that announced every day which in this case means:
  • find a vaguely energy efficient version of a product.
  • dress it up in something that make it seem green and wholesome - in this case wood trim.
  • up the price and send some money to a carbon-offset scheme
  • find guilable consumer who wan't to fellsmug about been green without bothering to know much about how it works


Making computers, traveling and most other activities have a carbon cost. Better make an effort not to be wastefull and if you want to do the extra bit find you own carbon offsetting system to fund, don't claim your PC or flight was carbon-free.
completemadness 19th June 2007, 19:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZERO <ibis>
Lets switch to clean energy like hydrogen. It only gives off water vapor not the evil co2 that is a green house gas and kills us all. O crap water vapor is also a green house gas and takes up an even bigger amount of the atmosphere than co2. Well looks like "clean" energy killed the word too :(
Actually water vapour is not much of a problem

however the huge problem with hydrogen is the fact that getting it uses a lot of energy (usually electrolysis) so you get the carbon released into the atmosphere at another point in the chain, and the problem remains exactly the same

If they ever get fusion working (and it runs on water) then a lot of the worlds problems will be solved for some time
Firstly fusion would give a lot of energy, without releasing "greenhouse gasses" into the atmosphere
Secondly, it could then be used to extract hydrogen from water, then vehicles and such could start to run on hydrogen

However, that's still a way off, and the world is soon going to be in crisis, whether global warming, or we run out of oil, we are soon going to be in serious trouble
Skill3d 19th June 2007, 21:12 Quote
we should capture the sun for our fusion project (to power our nextgen 2gigawatt pc's), then with all the energy we could drive our newly turbo hyper interstellar power engine to fly the earth to another galaxy where we can live happily ever after....

....errr..... ontopic: these guys are some retards at PCworld o_0

"Save Carbon, DESTROY RAINFORESTS, YES!"

amen
Sparrowhawk 20th June 2007, 08:19 Quote
Wait... BT is from 2001?

Has it been *that* long that I'd been browsing here?

/me feels old.
Journeyer 2nd July 2007, 13:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElThomsono
Ha, it's got nothing on Krikkit's environmentally friendly recycled case :)

:) That cracked me up... well they've got to have something to do there to take their minds of their wholly uninteresting night sky. ;)
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