Nvidia says G92 to near 1Teraflop

Author: Brett Thomas
Published: 25th May 2007
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Nvidia says G92 to near 1Teraflop

"Floppy, yet firm!" - One teraflop of computing power...and maybe a terawatt of power.

Though the G80 is still the chip to beat in the high-end graphics market, that isn't stopping Nvidia from looking toward the future. The company recently had a conference call where it discussed its upcoming G92 processor, which will take the high-end crown again. Apparently, it will be almost a teraflop of raw computing power.

For a comparison, that's around double the computing power of the current 8800GTX, which can do about 518GFlops (MAD+MUL) if you push it to its limit. Normally, the chip would average around 345 GFlops (without MUL). We would assume the new 1TFlop would also be MAD+MUL, which has had some controversy surrounding it.

Is anyone else interested in the PSU that will be required for this?

According to Nvidia's Michael Hara, Vice President, Investor Relations and Communications, the new chip will be ready at Christmas. This is actually going to be Nvidia's new launch plan after its wonderful success with the G80 - the high-end parts will be released shortly before the Holidays, and then the mid- to low-range parts will start filtering out in the spring. This gives the high-end early adopters a bit of extra time to cradle their expensive toys.

Of course, this "slick" plan borne from the G80 launch is actually an accidental stroke of genius due to production issues for the G80 part. At the time, the card was supposed to launch at the end of Q3 or start of Q4, but had to go back for a respin of the silicon. The launch put it in our hot little hands ever-so-slightly before Christmas, which (with all the Vista buzz) helped sell the device like hotcakes. Of course, since Nvidia didn't actually disclose the original date (we just knew the silicon needed redone), it could technically be said that the whole thing was just well-executed with a margin for error.

Anyhow, this launch is to now become the standard for Big Green, which isn't really a bad thing. It's a great way to get the company's name out right at the end of the year, when we're also expecting AMD's Barcelona, Intel's Nehalem, and a possible R600 refresh that might make it more competitive with the 8800 Ultra. Sounds like a great time to drop the 9800.

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Quote g3n3tiX 25th May 2007, 14:38
Good thing I didn't buy a 8800 !
Quote topher 25th May 2007, 14:43
Yes bell Have a new line of diesel generators out that should power it :)
Quote Krikkit 25th May 2007, 14:43
Sweet jesus that's a powerful card. Goodness knows how much power it'll need to run, probably 3 times the power of the G80 GTX... Looks like a tough year for AMD/ATi this year then.
Quote Duste 25th May 2007, 14:45
I smell commercial 2KW PSUs becoming somewhat standard. :P
Quote Tim S 25th May 2007, 14:49
I am betting on either an 80nm or a 65nm die shrink with this one...

As for some food for thought on what G92 could be... 160 G80 stream processors @ 2.0GHz = 0.96 TeraFLOPS, 192 G80 stream processors @ 1.7GHz = 0.98 TeraFLOPS ;)
Quote trig 25th May 2007, 15:02
i hate that...im 5 days from ordering my new 8800gts 640 mb, and this comes out!! o well...if you wait for the next big thing, the next big thing is always on the horizon.
Quote Tim S 25th May 2007, 15:14
it'll be like November before it comes out, I'd imagine. I wouldn't be surprised if it was PCIe 2.0, too...
Quote MiNiMaL_FuSS 25th May 2007, 15:15
time to drop the 9800!....jedus! :P
Quote Wolfman_UK 25th May 2007, 15:47
9800? They wouldn't call it that after the ATI 9800 kicked their backsides back in the day would they?

I wish both ATI and Nvidia would concentrate as much on power consumption as they would performance. I don't want to upgrade my PSU every time I upgrade my GFX card. For every extra watt your GFX card uses some poor wild creature will be getting killed by the extra smog that coal or gas fired powerstation kicks out ... ;)

-wolfman
Quote scq 25th May 2007, 16:07
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman_UK
9800? They wouldn't call it that after the ATI 9800 kicked their backsides back in the day would they?

I wish both ATI and Nvidia would concentrate as much on power consumption as they would performance. I don't want to upgrade my PSU every time I upgrade my GFX card. For every extra watt your GFX card uses some poor wild creature will be getting killed by the extra smog that coal or gas fired powerstation kicks out ... ;)

-wolfman


Haha...

I think calling it a 9800 would be a lovely piece of irony. Let's hope both companies have a better sense of humor as they do with power consumption and sustainability - as with a card like this - or even present cards in single or dual card set up, pretty much makes computers consume power like mini-particle accelerators.
Quote jjsyht 25th May 2007, 16:38
Eagerly waiting for the green political parties to come up with environmental taxes on Gfx.

(and this is NOT cuz i care about being green... I just dont need a heater/Pc for the very hot summer we are getting nowadays)
Quote Dr. Strangelove 25th May 2007, 17:06
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
I am betting on either an 80nm or a 65nm die shrink with this one...

As for some food for thought on what G92 could be... 160 G80 stream processors @ 2.0GHz = 0.96 TeraFLOPS, 192 G80 stream processors @ 1.7GHz = 0.98 TeraFLOPS ;)
Does that mean:
360 G80 stream processors @ 1GHz is about 0.96 TeraFLOPS
720 G80 stream processors @ 500MHz is about 0.96 TeraFLOPS
1440 G80 stream processors @ 250MHz is about 0.96 TeraFLOPS?
or
360000 G80 stream processors @ 1MHz is about 0.96 TeraFLOPS?:| :D

here is a thought, do you intelligent people see "dual-core" GPU's (not SLI) in that crystal ball of yours? would it make sense? or would the chip become way too big (and prob too hot)..

as for the power requirements, has anyone checked whether Intel, nvidia and AMD/ATI has invested money in power companies lately... I smell a conspiracy ;)
Quote wafflesomd 25th May 2007, 17:35
Soemthing will have to be done about the power issue, or ppl are going to start blowing fuses.
Quote Rocket733 25th May 2007, 17:48
Nah you just have to have a second power line run to your house for your computer ;)
Quote Bauul 25th May 2007, 17:51
Ah the Raedon 9800, a truely good card that, kept me happy through many hours of D3.

Funny about the next big thing always seams to be just on the horizon, truth is the next best thing, the thing after that and then the next best DNA based thing after that are all probably just over the horizon as we speak now, you'll never be up to date no matter what you buy, there's always something else nearing commericialisation.
Quote pendragon 25th May 2007, 18:03
/agree Bauul
Quote Echo 25th May 2007, 18:14
Can I be the first to say it would be nice if NVida would sort out the drivers for their current cards, before developing new ones.. Vista drivers are still messed up, and SLi just wont work....
Quote Krikkit 25th May 2007, 18:17
But the semiconductor engineers haven't got anything to do!
Quote DarkLord7854 25th May 2007, 19:25
I don't want to see the energy bill of a house which has one computer with two of those cards in SLI o.o
Quote Henk 25th May 2007, 20:40
Quote:
Originally Posted by Article
Of course, this "sick" plan borne from the G80 launch is actually an...
Fixed :(

Ah well, at least I can buy another 8800GTS 640mb cheaply at the end of the year...
Quote Tile 25th May 2007, 21:18
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Quote perplekks45 25th May 2007, 21:23
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henk
Fixed :(

Ah well, at least I can buy another 8800GTS 640mb cheaply at the end of the year...
Yea, selling my P5B-E to buy some 650-based board (maybe 680 if prices drop) and go SLI. Should be my way to go too.

But going G90? If only I was in the position to build my own core reactor in my garage... if I had a garage :| Link
Quote mattthegamer463 25th May 2007, 21:31
$50 says some PC n00b will buy a ATi 9800 when he wants a Geforce 9800 and will say to himself "Wow what a great price!"
Quote perplekks45 25th May 2007, 23:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattthegamer463
$50 says some PC n00b will buy a ATi 9800 when he wants a Geforce 9800 and will say to himself "Wow what a great price!"
"I found some dumbass that sells me the uber gfx card for almost nothing... muhahaha!" :D
Quote mattthegamer463 26th May 2007, 00:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by aon`aTv.gsus666
"I found some dumbass that sells me the uber gfx card for almost nothing... muhahaha!" :D
Two weeks later we read a news post about a xbox 360 owner who committed suicide.
Quote Fozzy 26th May 2007, 01:41
They'll drop power when house lights start dimming when you boot up your pc.
Quote DarkLord7854 26th May 2007, 01:44
Well hey, you could put a hot plate connected to em and cook your meals straight off the card probably
Quote r4tch3t 26th May 2007, 07:29
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Well hey, you could put a hot plate connected to em and cook your meals straight off the card probably
While enjoying a good game of supcom ;)
Quote Havok154 26th May 2007, 09:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
it'll be like November before it comes out, I'd imagine. I wouldn't be surprised if it was PCIe 2.0, too...

If they require me to buy ANOTHER motherboard or PSU, I'll be bowing out of PC gaming that requires anything more then my C2D 6300@3Ghz and 7800gtx. I've replaced parts too often just to accommodate another part or feature I want to use. It's just getting too expensive and isn't beneficial enough to me. At least I get half-decent graphics on my console and I don't need to drop $200-500+ every other year just to play a new game at passable framerates.
Quote K.I.T.T. 26th May 2007, 10:22
The only thing that's going to be able to generate enough power for one of those things is a bolt of lighting...but we never know when or where its ever going to strike.

But seriously its going to be impressive and the irony of if it were called the 9800 would be so funny i don't think i'd stop laughing for a while, a similar situation that happened when i saw OCZ's external 2KW PSU but sadly that ones looking more and more sensible with the amount of power this things going to consume!
Quote DXR_13KE 26th May 2007, 15:43
f*** this, i am making an embargo on computer parts that consume to much power, i have a hint for ATI and NVIDIA, please look that way, look at Intel, their current cpus are kick ass and consume less power than previous cpus.
i will only buy a graphic card as soon as they lower their power consumption, i don't have a nuclear reactor to power my pc!
Quote Tim S 26th May 2007, 16:28
who said that power consumption was going to be necessarily higher?
Quote DougEdey 26th May 2007, 17:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
who said that power consumption was going to be necessarily higher?

Because it's a predictive trend. Unless you have facts that say otherwise, I'll agree that looking at these trends backs up his statement.
Quote duc 26th May 2007, 17:57
Outside of 3D gaming, how useful is it to have 1teraflop driving windows or vista? At least you can fold on the slower ATI cards.
Quote woodshop 26th May 2007, 22:28
They will just make a nice new backplate for towers that allow the PC to hook into the heat excanger in your home HVAC system :)
Quote DarkLord7854 27th May 2007, 00:35
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodshop
They will just make a nice new backplate for towers that allow the PC to hook into the heat excanger in your home HVAC system :)


Heck, we might start having to build enclosure outside our homes to house computers in. Both for heat and electrical safety.

Imagine if the PSU driving an SLI'ed system with two of those cards goes boom
Quote Emon 27th May 2007, 02:44
1.21 gigawatts!
Quote completemadness 27th May 2007, 08:49
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
i actually thought about doing that once
i mean if your room heats up a lot, it can be quite annoying, so thatd be a good solution

Sadly network KVM transmitters are like £150 or something, so its not very cost efficient, also games might not like the added latency
Quote Major 27th May 2007, 19:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
I don't want to see the energy bill of a house which has one computer with two of those cards in SLI o.o

Well I'm guessing if you can afford two of them, a £200 - £300 PSU etc, you surely can afford the bill. ;)
Quote DarkLord7854 28th May 2007, 02:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by MajorGN
Well I'm guessing if you can afford two of them, a £200 - £300 PSU etc, you surely can afford the bill. ;)


People in the US usually run on Credit Cards, so even if they do buy em, they probably cannot afford them :P
Quote The_Beast 28th May 2007, 03:50
It really sucks if you are a die hard AMD or ATI fanboy


ATI is coming out with the "next gen" of GFX cards

At the same time Nvidia is coming out with the next next gen of GFX cards
Quote Redbeaver 28th May 2007, 22:18
holy cripes.... this xmas????? im TWO days aways of dEciding a purchase of a 8800GTS 640MB.......

ugh...
Quote DarkLord7854 28th May 2007, 22:43
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeaver
holy cripes.... this xmas????? im TWO days aways of dEciding a purchase of a 8800GTS 640MB.......

ugh...

Then just wait, by xmas the 8xxx series will be dirt cheap :p
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