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Human Revolution's boss fights were outsourced

Human Revolution's boss fights were outsourced

Square Enix outsourced the Deus Ex: Human Revolution's boss fights to another developer.

Square Enix outsourced the boss sections of Deus Ex: Human Revolution away from the core development team at Eidos Montreal, it has emerged.

The boss fights, which were an almost universally panned flaw in an otherwise almost universally appreciated game, were developed by G.R.I.P Entertainment.

Below you can see a Behind the Scenes look at the development process for the boss fights, as originally reported by Game Informer.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution recently drew ire from fans when Square Enix issued a patch which added adverts into the game too.

You can read our Deus Ex: Human Revolution review for more information on the game, but it's definitely worth checking out the video below. In our opinion, everything you might want to know about why the boss fights contrast with the rest of the game is explained within.

Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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faugusztin 20th September 2011, 14:14 Quote
Well, one of the bossfights can be won without bullets fired :).
Bauul 20th September 2011, 14:23 Quote
I've got through the first two (just defeated the second), and personally didn't think they were too bad.

*very mild spoilers*

True the first boss was just a bullet sponge, but there were so many guns and grenades in the arena it wasn't difficult.

The second boss I thought was pretty awesome - absolutely impossible until you work out a weakness trick (of which there are a few), and then killable in about 30 seconds. I was so chuffed when I worked out how to do it.
LJF 20th September 2011, 14:33 Quote
I killed the third boss last night with a single punch. Such a ridiculous glitch.
Bloody_Pete 20th September 2011, 14:33 Quote
Try doing the second one without electro-resist! She's damn near impossible!
LJF 20th September 2011, 14:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bloody_Pete
Try doing the second one without electro-resist! She's damn near impossible!

I did. Killed her with another glitch. Found a spot where her typhoon somehow misses at close range and then stun-gunned her 15-20 times in succession. She's stunned for just long enough to reload and fire off the next round.
Darkefire 20th September 2011, 14:47 Quote
I was in love with the game up until the first boss fight (which I'm currently stuck on). Penny Arcade got it right, if you've been playing almost purely as a nonlethal stealth type who avoids most fights you're going to be rather ill-equipped to suddenly have to handle a 7 foot cyborg with a minigun for a left hand who can take more bullets to the head than I've fired in the entire game thus far. It's so completely jarring to suddenly have to play like a first-person shooter when I've spent a good five hours up to that point doing my best Sam Fisher impression. Heck, I turned down the difficulty to "Easy" and the guy still wipes the floor with me in under a minute.
Zero_UK 20th September 2011, 14:50 Quote
Spoilers: @ bloody_Pete: I found she was okay to beat by making gas and emp mines. Stand in the middle and place them in a wide circle around you. She runs to attack, sets it off and loses a load of health or disabled. Shoot the heck out of her :p
Bauul 20th September 2011, 14:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by LJF
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Originally Posted by Bloody_Pete
Try doing the second one without electro-resist! She's damn near impossible!

I did. Killed her with another glitch. Found a spot where her typhoon somehow misses at close range and then stun-gunned her 15-20 times in succession. She's stunned for just long enough to reload and fire off the next round.

Yup, the Stun Gun is your friend. This is how I did it:

1) Shoot her with a stun gun straight away
2) Switch weapons and unload half a magazine of Heavy Rifle into her face whilst she's stunned
3) She recieves so much damage she runs off to recharge without attacking you
4) Reload all your guns
5) Have your stun gun ready when she returns

Repeat.

Took two cycles and she was down, although I imagine it would be more on hard difficulty.
Deders 20th September 2011, 14:57 Quote
I found them all very easy......

1st took me a few tries to realise I shouldn't just shoot them but use my environment. Throwing gas cannisters slowed him down, then just keep shooting until he comes at you again and repeat.

2nd was easy enough as I found her recharging and just shot her loads with exploding magnum bullets. Might have used an EMP grenade, Can't remember.

By the 3rd one I had the grenade launcher, only needed 2 or 3 shots, didn't even die once.
faugusztin 20th September 2011, 15:16 Quote
@Deders: 1st one - i took rocket launcher for him. 3 rockets, he is down.
2nd one - stunt gun + few grenades.
3rd one - single punch while he is jumping over the fence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1X5F0d58I
Cogwulf 20th September 2011, 15:37 Quote
Okay, so they outsourced the boss fights, that's one thing. But then, they release a video bragging about it?

And then, with the video they include snapshots of some really interesting cut-scenes that never appeared into the game, cut-scenes which show the boss fights in much bigger open areas, with more footage leading up to the start of the fights.

When I played the game the first time, it wasn't everything I'd hoped for but I enjoyed it, I was happy. Now they keep showing me more and more which not only proves it was possible for them to have made the game better, but also that they just gave up trying.
CardJoe 20th September 2011, 15:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bloody_Pete
Try doing the second one without electro-resist! She's damn near impossible!

I did. Didn't find it at all hard really, just dodged grenades when I saw them coming.
wuyanxu 20th September 2011, 15:44 Quote
i guess those subcontractors didn't ask the all important question: "is this deus-ex-y?"
Adnoctum 20th September 2011, 15:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Darkefire
I was in love with the game up until the first boss fight (which I'm currently stuck on).

The spoilers below are only non-specific fight details with hints, not storyline/location spoilers.

I'm playing through for the second time for Pacifist (no kills) and Max Difficulty achievements. Killed the 1st boss with just the 10mm pistol. Yeah, he is a beast, but a flaw is he is a slow tank. You need to keep moving using the cover of columns and barriers, and his gun overheats, so use this time to break cover to move/fire. Use a few EMP grenades if you have them. I also had a single explosive grenade I was saving for him. It took a couple of goes, but wasn't so bad.

2nd boss was easier and I made it past on the first try, similarly with the 10mm pistol and max difficulty. The Smart Vision augment is very handy (I won't say why), and the EMP Shielding armour augment is near essential because of environmental electricity. Again, keep moving and use the cover available. I also found mines (remembering where you laid them!) very helpful. EMP grenades are very effective.

Almost up to the 3rd boss now. From my first play through, I know I'll need to keep moving and use the available cover and use some grenades. Hmm, I'm starting to see a pattern! :)
Da_Rude_Baboon 20th September 2011, 16:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bloody_Pete
Try doing the second one without electro-resist! She's damn near impossible!

Side step her intital charge, shoot her with the stun gun, reload, shoot her with the stun gun. Repeat about 20 times and shes down.
MjFrosty 20th September 2011, 16:32 Quote
I love how the guy sounds really chuffed and up beat about what he's doing..

Which turns out ruined an otherwise almost perfect game
rickysio 20th September 2011, 16:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Cogwulf
Okay, so they outsourced the boss fights, that's one thing. But then, they release a video bragging about it?

It's probably a response from the developers who had their hands tied by meddling and ill-informed executives trying to explain to a let-down fan base why exactly did the boss fights suck so bad in comparison.
r3loaded 20th September 2011, 17:05 Quote
And that kids is why you need to be careful when you subcontract.
kosch 20th September 2011, 17:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Darkefire
I was in love with the game up until the first boss fight (which I'm currently stuck on). Penny Arcade got it right, if you've been playing almost purely as a nonlethal stealth type who avoids most fights you're going to be rather ill-equipped to suddenly have to handle a 7 foot cyborg with a minigun for a left hand who can take more bullets to the head than I've fired in the entire game thus far. It's so completely jarring to suddenly have to play like a first-person shooter when I've spent a good five hours up to that point doing my best Sam Fisher impression. Heck, I turned down the difficulty to "Easy" and the guy still wipes the floor with me in under a minute.

Yep I had exactly the same problem and was on maximum difficulty. In the end I had to yield by lowering the dfficiutly for this boss.
metarinka 20th September 2011, 19:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by kosch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkefire
I was in love with the game up until the first boss fight (which I'm currently stuck on). Penny Arcade got it right, if you've been playing almost purely as a nonlethal stealth type who avoids most fights you're going to be rather ill-equipped to suddenly have to handle a 7 foot cyborg with a minigun for a left hand who can take more bullets to the head than I've fired in the entire game thus far. It's so completely jarring to suddenly have to play like a first-person shooter when I've spent a good five hours up to that point doing my best Sam Fisher impression. Heck, I turned down the difficulty to "Easy" and the guy still wipes the floor with me in under a minute.

Yep I had exactly the same problem and was on maximum difficulty. In the end I had to yield by lowering the dfficiutly for this boss.

I beat the first boss on max difficulty using a pacifist character, up to that point all my upgrades went into the 10MM pistol and since I had just about never used it I had oodles of ammo. There's plenty of weapons in the arena too. throw some grenades or use the PED to disable him then start unloading headshots into his head. You can save during boss fights so I set up a string of 3, if I was about to die I would jump to the last save.

Probably took me 6-10 tries for my character that had no damage or resistance upgrades. Shoot my stealth character didn't even have the cloak or use silent foot steps. I beat that game with 10 extra praxis points.
Deders 20th September 2011, 20:37 Quote
It's not all about weapons, use the environment.
zhadlp 20th September 2011, 23:50 Quote
found the boss fights to be pretty damn easy, even without a glitch.

1st boss - emp grenade + a couple of frags
2nd boss - typhoon as soon as she gets out of stealth and rushes you, then unload a full clip on her (didn't have to repeat twice since she died on the 2nd typhoon).
3rd boss - ate 3 or 4 grenade launcher ammo as soon as the battle started and died without even moving a spot (everytime you hit him, he'll be thrown upwards since there's a wall behind him, just shoot as soon as he lands.)
zhadlp 20th September 2011, 23:55 Quote
finished the game with just the handgun as my primary weapon (silenced, ap, and fully upgraded ammo size/damage), silenced sniper rifle (barely used), and the grenade launcher (as soon as I got it), only ones I couldn't kill from 1 handgun headshot were those heavily augmented, heavy rifle carrying guys with helmet and the grenade launcher takes care of them (still managed to get the no alarm [forgot the name]/ghost achievements even when using the grenade launcher every once in a while)
thehippoz 21st September 2011, 00:57 Quote
beat the second boss first time =E had xray vision so when it started ran around with it on.. saw her walking behind one of the walls

just ran up to her basically

stun gun.. typhoon.. stun gun.. typhoon

guess if I sat in one spot I might have seen what she could do
Jedibeeftrix 21st September 2011, 10:52 Quote
I pinned the second boss against a wall and killed her in 30 seconds by letting rip with 200 plus round of the heavy machingun.
Zurechial 21st September 2011, 16:01 Quote
It doesn't matter whether the bosses are easy or difficult. They're still a ****ing stupid inclusion in a game that they just don't suit.

I played on the hardest difficulty and died no more than once to any of the bosses; but I still hated their presence in the game.
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