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EA: 'Valve removed Crysis 2 from Steam'

EA: 'Valve removed Crysis 2 from Steam'

Publisher EA has said that Valve is the one which removed Crysis 2 from Steam.

Electronic Arts has blamed Valve for Crysis 2's disappearance from Steam, contrary to previous rumours that EA had removed the game so it could be an exclusive for its new digital store, Origin.

An official EA statement issued to GI.biz clarifies plainly that 'this was not an EA decision'.

'Steam has imposed a set of business terms for developers hoping to sell content on that service - many of which are not imposed by other online game services,' said EA. 'Unfortunately, Crytek has an agreement with another download service which violates the new rules from Steam and resulted in its expulsion of Crysis 2 from Steam.'

'It's unfortunate that Steam has removed Crysis 2 from their service. This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA.'

Crysis 2 remains available on other digital distribution platforms, including Direct2Drive and Impulse. Electronic Arts has not issued any statement that would imply Crysis 2 will become an Origin exclusive.

The Steam version of Crysis 2 remains playable over Steam for those who have already purchased the game, but cannot be purchased by new buyers.

Check out our Crysis 2 PC review for more information, then let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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cjoyce1980 16th June 2011, 11:58 Quote
toys out of the pram :)
Jack_Pepsi 16th June 2011, 11:59 Quote
Meh, Crysis 2 looks crap anyroad.
Thedarkrage 16th June 2011, 12:00 Quote
Sounds more like EA want to start the trash talk with origin coming out
adam_bagpuss 16th June 2011, 12:01 Quote
This doesnt mean that EA wasnt at fault such as all DLC will be on origin ONLY therefore steam people get shafted
scott_chegg 16th June 2011, 12:08 Quote
Steam crysis 2 owners should still be able to purchase and play the dlc if it's bought from origin. Medal of Honor's Hot Zone pack was only available via EA store but worked fine on the steam version of Medal of Honor.

More likely steam don't like being cut out of a slice of DLC pie.
r3loaded 16th June 2011, 12:14 Quote
Meh, it's not like it's a big loss.
Kiytan 16th June 2011, 12:18 Quote
I call BS, there are LOADS of games that are on steam as well as on D2D, impulse, gamersgate etc.. and they're all fine.

so yeah sounds more like exclusive DLC deals to me (in which case I think it's fair enough steam removed it)
BRAWL 16th June 2011, 12:24 Quote
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Valve/Steam have clearly disliked being cut out of the DLC market with Crysis2 so they've thrown their toys out the pram and gone "FINE! WE WONT GIVE IT OUT!" and EA have pretty much gone, "Okay, fine with us" *starts work on Origin*.

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.
Artanix 16th June 2011, 12:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Valve/Steam have clearly disliked being cut out of the DLC market with Crysis2 so they've thrown their toys out the pram and gone "FINE! WE WONT GIVE IT OUT!" and EA have pretty much gone, "Okay, fine with us" *starts work on Origin*.

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.

Doubt thats the way round it is, and i'm not a valve fanboy. Valve will give them the new terms and conditions, along with everybody else on the steam platform, Crytec or EA must've said "we don't agree" and thats there the problem has come up.


I doubt theres any drama with this, as like ALL T&C's with products, if you don't accept, then you don't use it, simple as.
tennisball 16th June 2011, 12:49 Quote
I'd like to see what Valve have to say before blaming either party tbh.
oatey4519 16th June 2011, 12:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Valve/Steam have clearly disliked being cut out of the DLC market with Crysis2 so they've thrown their toys out the pram and gone "FINE! WE WONT GIVE IT OUT!" and EA have pretty much gone, "Okay, fine with us" *starts work on Origin*.

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.

With you on this....;)

So what..!
BF3 won't go on steam i reckon - but i want it so i'll buy it elsewhere.
Steam needed some competition & EA Origin might (when they sort out it out) just do that.
The ease of Steam is clear to see... but come on do you buy your clothes or gadget/hardware etc from the same shop?? No
Mentai 16th June 2011, 13:13 Quote
Pointing fingers without saying what the terms of service they violated were doesn't get me on EA's side. They have a terrible track record and a new platform which they ARE putting exclusives on in a completely anti competitive way. Origin is a simple cash grab, offering nothing but a splinter group of games that you can only download 5 times and may expire without notice. Please just use a system already in place without price gouging OR offer something better. By offering only something worse you make the legitimate purchase have less value than piracy, and we're back to that DRM roundabout all over again.

I'm not sure what Steam is doing with their DLC stuff, but I wish they would make it so no one can get their game on there without using the service fully. Getting Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 DLC installed was ridiculous, and that points instead of dollars system? Sod off.

EA looks like it's going downhill again and it sucks that their crap is going to taint games like BF3 and ME3.
bogie170 16th June 2011, 13:14 Quote
Origin is ****. I have it installed and its crap. GFWL is also crap. Steam is ok but yes it needs competition. Xfire is awesome, lightweight and easy to use. Teamspeak, Vantrilo and Mumble are also good. Playclaw too. These features from all these clients need to come together into a lightweight client. Steam is the only client close at the moment.
leveller 16th June 2011, 13:42 Quote
PC Gaming will equal 15 download clients clogging up our PC's. All trying to monitor their own games and more besides.

Yesterday PC Gaming took a punch to the face. It's friggin frustrating if you ask me.

p.s. BRAWL, it isn't as simple as bashing EA. This is ****ed up. (maybe temporarily until EA and Valve shake hands again ... here's hoping ...)
digitaldave 16th June 2011, 13:44 Quote
"This was not an EA decision or the result of any action by EA.'"

yeah someone else made EA create their own downloads store. . . . . . . ohhangonamin......
Woodspoon 16th June 2011, 13:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Artanix
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Valve/Steam have clearly disliked being cut out of the DLC market with Crysis2 so they've thrown their toys out the pram and gone "FINE! WE WONT GIVE IT OUT!" and EA have pretty much gone, "Okay, fine with us" *starts work on Origin*.

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.

Doubt thats the way round it is, and i'm not a valve fanboy. Valve will give them the new terms and conditions, along with everybody else on the steam platform, Crytec or EA must've said "we don't agree" and thats there the problem has come up.


I doubt theres any drama with this, as like ALL T&C's with products, if you don't accept, then you don't use it, simple as.

Pretty much spot on what I was thinking.
javaman 16th June 2011, 14:27 Quote
The way that reads is crysis 2 (basically EA) done something that violated the terms and conditions meaning steam expelled it from their store so it could be sold exclusively on EA's new online store.......correct?

Now to break the T&C of my mobile contract and be expelled from the network.......
vdbswong 16th June 2011, 14:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.

Pretty much this,

We've only been given one side of the story and currently the "official" evidence against Valve stands at 1-0.

If Valve want to release their version of events and it does make more sense that EA are in the wrong then by all means start flaming away.

But don't start flaming away with only half the details... especially for the one that's actually tried to put out an official statement.

The fact that Crysis 2 is still on other Digital Download Services just shows that Valve is currently the one being picky here (however i won't judge whether or not it's rightly so).
dyzophoria 16th June 2011, 15:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by Woodspoon
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Originally Posted by Artanix
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they? Are they the halo around an ever failing gaming industry to you guys or something? *rolls eyes sarcastically*

Valve/Steam have clearly disliked being cut out of the DLC market with Crysis2 so they've thrown their toys out the pram and gone "FINE! WE WONT GIVE IT OUT!" and EA have pretty much gone, "Okay, fine with us" *starts work on Origin*.

Saying this I'm getting bored of the EA bashing. I hate many of the idiots who made that treason-based, heretically-ashaming CnC4 attempt... but BF3... very different story.

Doubt thats the way round it is, and i'm not a valve fanboy. Valve will give them the new terms and conditions, along with everybody else on the steam platform, Crytec or EA must've said "we don't agree" and thats there the problem has come up.


I doubt theres any drama with this, as like ALL T&C's with products, if you don't accept, then you don't use it, simple as.

Pretty much spot on what I was thinking.

same, there where terms, one side wasn't able to agree, you don't use the service, simple as that, there is no drama, and there is nothing to be pissed about.
WarrenJ 16th June 2011, 15:34 Quote
I see this as Steam trying to defend itself and get companies to subscribe to a "Steam Only" distribution service stopping game developers from supplying on multiple distribution networks.

With EA having it's own system, and becoming rivals to steam it was inevitable this was going to happen.
Marvin-HHGTTG 16th June 2011, 16:03 Quote
In all honesty, this makes much more sense than an EA-wide move - they're a publisher, and I don't think they're dumb enough to cut such a massive section of the market out. I think BF3 will still be on Steam - let's face it, they haven't pulled anything else. All Origin is EA's new download manager.
Toploaded 16th June 2011, 16:28 Quote
Steam is pretty much the only reason I skip on retail copies these days, so I guess now if I was to buy Crysis 2 I'll keep an eye for a cheap boxed version online or down CEX.
tennisball 16th June 2011, 18:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by WarrenJ
I see this as Steam trying to defend itself and get companies to subscribe to a "Steam Only" distribution service stopping game developers from supplying on multiple distribution networks.

With EA having it's own system, and becoming rivals to steam it was inevitable this was going to happen.

I doubt this is the case; IIRC Valve did a lot of negotiating with EA to get their games on steam in the first place. EA have had a digital distribution service for ages.
schmidtbag 16th June 2011, 18:09 Quote
this seems like complete bs to me. i've seen games on steam, eadm, and desura at the same time, so unless what ea meant by "new" as in "within a month", they're lying.
OCJunkie 16th June 2011, 18:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by schmidtbag
...complete bs to me. i've seen games on steam, eadm, and desura at the same time...

Exactly, there's obviously some fine print Valve or EA are not saying here...

Either way, the business is already getting clogged with everyone having their own distribution system, and if they start becoming mutually exclusive then we're all screwed. I don't want 10 clients, I'm Steam only and it's not on there then I ain't buyin it. So bad marketing move for both of them.

P.S. I think the real reason C2 was pulled is cause it was embarrassingly bad :P lol
erratum1 16th June 2011, 19:15 Quote
It's like steam can do no wrong with pc gamers, I don't see what's so great about it their prices are pathetic unless a sales on.
cgthomas 16th June 2011, 19:41 Quote
Steam fan boys need not to comment.
Eiffie 16th June 2011, 20:16 Quote
I'm at least happy that I can still play my steam copy of the game. I hope this isn't the start of more games being pulled off of steam. I know there are over services out there but I already have so much invested in my steam account I'd hate to have to switch over to a new service just for a few games. I do use impulse but that is only for sins of a solar empire and it's current 2, soon to be 3 expansions.
jimmyjj 16th June 2011, 20:24 Quote
mmm, will steam owners get the patches and if they do will it be in a timely fashion?
SexyHyde 16th June 2011, 20:35 Quote
i was contemplating getting crysis 2 when it goes in a valve sale! meh! anyway i'll use origin (which is a bit tosh, but, then again it is better than steam was when it came out) for bf3 if i have to, but i have preordered a retail copy, as preordering on origin is about as bargaintastic as it is on steam.
mighty_pirate 16th June 2011, 22:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mentai
Pointing fingers without saying what the terms of service they violated were doesn't get me on EA's side. They have a terrible track record and a new platform which they ARE putting exclusives on in a completely anti competitive way. Origin is a simple cash grab, offering nothing but a splinter group of games that you can only download 5 times and may expire without notice. Please just use a system already in place without price gouging OR offer something better. By offering only something worse you make the legitimate purchase have less value than piracy, and we're back to that DRM roundabout all over again.

I'm not sure what Steam is doing with their DLC stuff, but I wish they would make it so no one can get their game on there without using the service fully. Getting Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2 DLC installed was ridiculous, and that points instead of dollars system? Sod off.

EA looks like it's going downhill again and it sucks that their crap is going to taint games like BF3 and ME3.
This.
sear 16th June 2011, 22:41 Quote
Rumour has it that Crysis 2 was removed by Valve due to EA signing a deal with Crytek stating that future patches and DLC would only be published on Origin, effectively giving EA's digital store the better product. Valve did not take kindly to this and removed it. EA's pointing the finger here, as well as their vagueness on the subject, suggests that they don't want to admit exactly what happened for fear of even more backlash.
vdbswong 16th June 2011, 23:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by sear
Rumour has it that Crysis 2 was removed by Valve due to EA signing a deal with Crytek stating that future patches and DLC would only be published on Origin, effectively giving EA's digital store the better product. Valve did not take kindly to this and removed it. EA's pointing the finger here, as well as their vagueness on the subject, suggests that they don't want to admit exactly what happened for fear of even more backlash.

If they lumped in exclusive patches as well then i could see the issues.

However as for EA pointing the finger at Valve, aren't the majority of people pointing the finger at EA here with even less information?

I admit that it may seem like they're trying to minimise damages, but Valve hasn't even tried to defend itself yet. If it were the other way round, people would be accusing EA of staying silent because they know they're guilty.
leveller 16th June 2011, 23:51 Quote
we won't hear any gossip from the management at Valve. We may not get an official comment either. It's not how big business is done. At some point they'll either agree on a contract or it'll just stay like it is now. And let's face it, EA publishing their own games on their own service makes sense.

I don't agre with it though. Steam is an outlet. My outlet. Using more clients is BS.
Furioushamster 17th June 2011, 01:08 Quote
I'd say, first have a skeptical look at both sides. There's a couple of facts you HAVE to consider; Steam has a LOT of developers/publishers and also damn lotsa indie games! Steam has like 1 million people online all the time! It'd be in Valve/Steams best interest to have as many titles on there as possible, so for them to suddenly exclude Crysis 2 from their platform only seems like more trouble for them. Also because this would've harmed their relationship with EA somewhere? Like many have said, it's not like EA has a good trackrecord, they're (nowadays!) known for screwing with developers, cutting their deadlines and/or budget. For EA to move their business to their own platform is ofcourse nice for the 'market interest' (actually their own wallets) but it does little for boosting the game industry.

Steam is actually the only gamingplatform/client I completely trust with all my hard-earned money. I always get the feeling that steam, albeit in time, has matured to such a point it should be standardized. As many say, having more then one client is utter waste of time and could be better spend in developing better titles if you'd ask me - especially for PC! I've had troubles with EADM lot'sa times trying to install BF2142 and BF:BC2 and some DLC packs. All in all:

EA has bought like 20 developers in 5-7 years time, Valve got us Steam.
Steam won my heart, EA violated some very promising and exciting titles in my opinion.
ssj12 17th June 2011, 03:40 Quote
Valve probably made it so that exclusive DLC doesn't exist for games that is only available on other platforms. If I bought a game on Steam I don't want to be installing and downloading DLC off of Impulse or someplace else and vice-versa.
serial_ 17th June 2011, 06:23 Quote
oh damn. I would have bought Crysis 2 on steam, but there's no way in hell I'd ever use a service managed by EA. Sorry, EA chaps, but your sadistic handling of the Dead Space PC DLCs for both games has instilled a sense of ire towards any service you provide.

Looks like unless it returns to steam I won't be playing Crysis 2. Pity, oh well.
wafflesomd 17th June 2011, 06:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by BRAWL
lol once again I am disappointed by PC-Gamers reactions to this.

Valve and STEAM can apparently do no wrong to you guys can they?

Yes, because having a good reputation is automatically grounds for one to be at fault.
law99 17th June 2011, 08:10 Quote
Do I smell the hardcopy strikes back?
SexyHyde 17th June 2011, 10:41 Quote
Is it too early to boycott origin? Maybe EA are acting like ass hats because they just weren't used to all the praise and admiration they were getting with regards bf3. The clever / dumb balance has been restored.
Jezcentral 17th June 2011, 11:21 Quote
Yes, it is too early. We're not even sure EA ARE acting like arse hats.
SexyHyde 17th June 2011, 13:43 Quote
well i think they've seen activision wearing the ass hat and gone 'thats OUR ass hat!', quick steal valves hat and draw an ass on it.
jimmyjj 17th June 2011, 20:21 Quote
If you offer a game through steam then you should make a commitment that patches and DLC will be made available through that channel as well.

To allow people to pay good money to buy the game through steam - then make content unavailable to them is wrong. Good on Steam for refusing to sell the game (if that is what happened).
Hrodwulf666 18th June 2011, 17:39 Quote
I'm sick of all these companies insisting I fill my hard drive with all these hub style programs so they can control how I play my games. Its the further consolification of the PC in play, if I want to play one game I have to go here, if I want to play that game I have to go there, DL this program, DL that program, "OH ill buy it off the shelf"... SURPRISE! You have to register it on steam! It sucks and naturally EA's storming out of the barn flinging **** everywhere, whats the aim of this? Of course to draw the people that want to play an EA game away from competitors, this could just create more brand loyalty turd tossing ala Microsoft and Sony! It just makes you want to snap your own neck!
SexyHyde 18th June 2011, 19:30 Quote
I doesn't make me want to snap my neck, it makes me want to uninstalled origin. I love steam and while some competition may be good, I don't want competition for competitions sake, if that's the case I'd just rather have steam.
serial_ 19th June 2011, 04:19 Quote
Steam has spent years fine-tuning their model. As a result it's the best thing to happen to PC gaming in years. Steam sales > PSN/XBL any day.

I have little to no motivation to see someone else try and stear me away from steam, esp. since I have over 70 titles activated on steam. Which, consequently, is also the ultimate anti-cheat. People with large libraries aren't going to risk their collection over headshots in BlackOps.

Steam or GTFO imo.
feathers 19th June 2011, 17:48 Quote
Steam gives the small indie developer a platform on which to showcase their work. Can you imagine EA doing that? Funny the amount of hostility thrown at Valve because they're making money from their content delivery system. I have bought many current titles on steam when they have a massive price reduction.
Toploaded 20th June 2011, 01:36 Quote
Kinda works for me, I'll be way less tempted to be BF3 on release at full price now and be happy to wait until it's cheaper at retail, been patched up and I've upgraded my rig.

Steam is way to good at getting impulse buys out of me when I've still got a massive back log of great games to finish up.
impar 30th May 2012, 10:56 Quote
Greetings!

Back to Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/
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Crysis 2 Is Now Back On Steam [Update]
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UPDATE: EA sent us the following statement, in response to Crysis 2′s return to Steam:
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Changes made by Crytek to Crysis 2: Maximum Edition have brought the game in compliance with Steam’s terms of service.
Phalanx 30th May 2012, 11:00 Quote
The only change is that now all the DLC is published, they don't need to use Valve's system. That's why. No other reason. It's why they left in the first place.
Harlequin 30th May 2012, 13:53 Quote
^^ to make extra money from the DLC - when ME3 is done with DLC you`ll see it on steam as well
Harlequin 30th May 2012, 14:05 Quote
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The Crysis 2: Maximum Edition, featuring all the content found in the Crysis 2: Limited Edition plus two previously released DLC packs, Retaliation and Decimation, is now available digitally for the PC via Origin.com and third party digital retailers, Crytek announced. The Crysis 2: Maximum Edition provides gamers with 9 additional multiplayer maps, 2 new weapons, bonus XP, weapon skins and attachments, and unique dog tags that were not included in the standard retail package for Crysis 2.

http://www.gamershell.com/news_138388.html
sp4nky 30th May 2012, 20:59 Quote
I'm tempted to buy it at £15. Is Crysis 2 any good?
faugusztin 30th May 2012, 21:23 Quote
WTF at EA :D. A mappack plus few guns, and they want 17.49e (that is with 50% discount for me as a existing Crysis 2 owner on STEAM) from me ? They must use some very interesting stuff to come up with such stupid offer.
Gunsmith 30th May 2012, 21:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by sp4nky
I'm tempted to buy it at £15. Is Crysis 2 any good?

better then the **** thats out at the moment but pathetic compared to the original and its expansion.
azrael- 30th May 2012, 22:09 Quote
Interestingly I cannot open the Crysis 2 store page. Although it appears in the dropdown list, when I type Crysis into the search box I cannot open the page. I always get bounced back to the store front page. No problem with any other game, including Crysis and Crysis: Warhead.
PureSilver 30th May 2012, 22:15 Quote
I bought it when I saw it was back; had been waiting to buy it and was really p***** off when it was removed (I like completeness in my games collection, what can I say). Eh, it's overpriced, but hopefully at least it will be fun.
Mankz 31st May 2012, 00:32 Quote
I found it an enjoyable game..

But it was like the modern Star Wars's.. God awful compared with the originals.
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