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CCP: 'Sony was more open to Dust 514'

CCP: 'Sony was more open to Dust 514'

CCP has explained Dust 514 is PS3-only because Sony was 'more open' to the idea.

EVE Online developer CCP has explained why its upcoming MMO console-tie in, Dust 514, is only being released on PlayStation 3, saying simply that Sony was more open to the concept than competitors.

Discussing the recent E3 2011 announcement with RPS, Dust 514 producer Thomas Farrer said that the Xbox Live system was also a barrier.

'Most of DUST is running on our own technology, it’s running on our own super-computer, on Tranquillity,' said Farrer. 'Sony is a lot more… open, shall we say, to allowing you to do those things.'

'It may seem silly, but on Xbox Live your identity is your Xbox Live identity. In the EVE universe, having people not know who you are is quite important.'

Farrer also explained that Dust 514, which lets players fight on-planet battles within EVE Online's larger MMO universe, is not being released on PC to avoid cannibalising the player-base.

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Shayper09 8th June 2011, 11:25 Quote
One word.

Gutted :(

I want this on the PC! Console gaming is not as fun or as good for me as PC gaming...
cjoyce1980 8th June 2011, 11:30 Quote
I use to play EVE a while back, shame this isn't coming to PC or more consoles really as I do like the sound of this concept
jrs77 8th June 2011, 11:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shayper09
One word.

Gutted :(

I want this on the PC! Console gaming is not as fun or as good for me as PC gaming...
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Originally Posted by cjoyce1980
I use to play EVE a while back, shame this isn't coming to PC or more consoles really as I do like the sound of this concept

The PS3 has native USB-keyboard and mouse support, and as Dust514 uses the UnrealEngine the game plays like on a PC basically. However, the PS3 doesn't come with the drawbacks of PC-gaming. It's the same hardware for all players and stuff like wallhacks, speedhacks and aimbots are basically non-existant on a console. Those who manage to hack and cheat get banned and banning is quiet harsh on a console as your account is tied to your hardware (serial number of the console).

For being PS3 only, well... Microsoft said NO to Dust514, so what could CCP do anyways? It's not the fault of CCP.
will_123 8th June 2011, 12:01 Quote
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For being PS3 only, well... Microsoft said NO to Dust514, so what could CCP do anyways? It's not the fault of CCP.

nobody said that it was CCP fault? We just wished its came to the PC tbh. Also what are the drawbacks of PC gaming?
jrs77 8th June 2011, 12:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by will_123
nobody said that it was CCP fault? We just wished its came to the PC tbh. Also what are the drawbacks of PC gaming?

CCP made it very clear, that they want to get new players into the EvE Universe and not the same old people playing EvE Online currently. They didn't get tired of repeating this through the last 3 years of development. It's a fact CCP didn't even tried to hide, so it shouldn't actually surprise anyone.

In addition, FPS-games are usually prone to cheating on a PC using aimbots and wallhacks etc. For a competitive FPS like Dust514, which has influence on EvE Online that's not acceptable and a console is easily monitored and if someone really tries to cheat the actual hardware get's banned and not just an easily replacable account.
Mentai 8th June 2011, 12:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
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Originally Posted by Shayper09
One word.

Gutted :(

I want this on the PC! Console gaming is not as fun or as good for me as PC gaming...
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Originally Posted by cjoyce1980
I use to play EVE a while back, shame this isn't coming to PC or more consoles really as I do like the sound of this concept

The PS3 has native USB-keyboard and mouse support, and as Dust514 uses the UnrealEngine the game plays like on a PC basically. However, the PS3 doesn't come with the drawbacks of PC-gaming. It's the same hardware for all players and stuff like wallhacks, speedhacks and aimbots are basically non-existant on a console. Those who manage to hack and cheat get banned and banning is quiet harsh on a console as your account is tied to your hardware (serial number of the console).

For being PS3 only, well... Microsoft said NO to Dust514, so what could CCP do anyways? It's not the fault of CCP.

You're kidding right? The PS3 got hacked wide open only months ago and you've forgotten all the trouble Sony has had with PSN breaches already? Maybe you missed it. Anyway, I don't think any system is more hack proof than others.
Kernel 8th June 2011, 12:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mentai
You're kidding right? The PS3 got hacked wide open only months ago and you've forgotten all the trouble Sony has had with PSN breaches already? Maybe you missed it. Anyway, I don't think any system is more hack proof than others.

Aye PSN got hacked on a server level, but no individual consoles were hacked providing a small player base an advantage over others
Star*Dagger 8th June 2011, 12:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Shayper09
One word.

Gutted :(

I want this on the PC! Console gaming is not as fun or as good for me as PC gaming...

You dont seem to have a grasp of how large in scope the EVE universe is and that this is not "gutted" but adding an aspect that has never happened before on a AAA title: Console players interacting with their PC Overlords.

Dust is supposed to be console only by design, if you want to experience the EVE universe in depth, Harden Up and download the client for EVE.

Hail CCP!!!

Yours in Hardcore 0.0/Wormhole Plasma,
Star*Dagger
enciem 8th June 2011, 12:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77


The PS3 has native USB-keyboard and mouse support, and as Dust514 uses the UnrealEngine the game plays like on a PC basically..

The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.
Kernel 8th June 2011, 13:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by enciem
The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.
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Originally Posted by Press Release

DUST 514 has been built from the ground up to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the PlayStation platform. Digitally distributed, the full game download will be available through PlayStation® Network (PSN). It will feature full support for Sony’s PlayStation®Move motion controller and Sharp Shooter accessory, and over time will extend the game experience across the full PlayStation ecosystem to Home and NGP.

If it supports the shiny Move stuff, can't see why it won't have Keyboard and mouse support.
jrs77 8th June 2011, 13:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mentai
You're kidding right? The PS3 got hacked wide open only months ago and you've forgotten all the trouble Sony has had with PSN breaches already? Maybe you missed it. Anyway, I don't think any system is more hack proof than others.

Hacking PSN has nothing to do with players cheating using aimbots etc. And I don't know of any hacks for the PS3 to have aimbots or wallhacks in Battlefield or any other FPS currently. For a PC tho there's tons of cheats known and the cheaters don't even get punished, because all they've got to do is to create a new account. If you hack your PS3 and play online with it, then your hardware gets banned too, based on the serial number of your PS3.
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Originally Posted by enciem
The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.

As far as we know, we'll be able to play with keyboard and mouse natively. No quotes tho, as this is information given at the last fanfest.
Woodspoon 8th June 2011, 13:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
The PS3 has native USB-keyboard and mouse support, and as Dust514 uses the UnrealEngine the game plays like on a PC basically. However, the PS3 doesn't come with the drawbacks of PC-gaming. It's the same hardware for all players and stuff like wallhacks, speedhacks and aimbots are basically non-existant on a console. Those who manage to hack and cheat get banned and banning is quiet harsh on a console as your account is tied to your hardware (serial number of the console).

For being PS3 only, well... Microsoft said NO to Dust514, so what could CCP do anyways? It's not the fault of CCP.

your sounding like a real PS3 fanboy there, don't know if that's the case, but your sounding like one.
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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger

You dont seem to have a grasp of how large in scope the EVE universe is and that this is not "gutted" but adding an aspect that has never happened before on a AAA title: Console players interacting with their PC Overlords.

That's a good point, I'm not sure how many Dust players will actually realise how vast the universe above them is, how much of a difference they could be making to some aspects of EvE life and just look at it like a regular fps.
bowman 8th June 2011, 13:52 Quote
I was wondering how they were going to do this. Consoles are usually way too closed.

With Sony allowing Valve to run Steam on the PS3, I guess this wasn't unexpected.

Microsoft wouldn't even let Valve release TF2 updates for the 360 without CHARGING for them.
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Originally Posted by Star*Dagger
You dont seem to have a grasp of how large in scope the EVE universe is and that this is not "gutted" but adding an aspect that has never happened before on a AAA title: Console players interacting with their PC Overlords.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?lextype=3&search=gutted
Kiytan 8th June 2011, 17:38 Quote
I don't like EvE.
I don't massively like the look of Dust 514 (not a fan of console FPS anyway)

However, I seriously applaud CCP for doing something innovative (both creatively and technologically), so might buy the game anyway,
Lenderz 8th June 2011, 18:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kiytan
I don't like EvE.
I don't massively like the look of Dust 514 (not a fan of console FPS anyway)

However, I seriously applaud CCP for doing something innovative (both creatively and technologically), so might buy the game anyway,

It's going to be free to play. :)


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enciem 8th June 2011, 19:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kernel
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Originally Posted by enciem
The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Press Release

DUST 514 has been built from the ground up to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the PlayStation platform. Digitally distributed, the full game download will be available through PlayStation® Network (PSN). It will feature full support for Sony’s PlayStation®Move motion controller and Sharp Shooter accessory, and over time will extend the game experience across the full PlayStation ecosystem to Home and NGP.

If it supports the shiny Move stuff, can't see why it won't have Keyboard and mouse support.

Has keyboard and mouse support been implemented with anything else as of yet. Can't say I've heard of it but don't often use my PS3. If it hasn't though, I don't see this game bucking the trend
ssj12 8th June 2011, 20:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by enciem
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Originally Posted by Kernel
Quote:
Originally Posted by enciem
The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Press Release

DUST 514 has been built from the ground up to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the PlayStation platform. Digitally distributed, the full game download will be available through PlayStation® Network (PSN). It will feature full support for Sony’s PlayStation®Move motion controller and Sharp Shooter accessory, and over time will extend the game experience across the full PlayStation ecosystem to Home and NGP.

If it supports the shiny Move stuff, can't see why it won't have Keyboard and mouse support.

Has keyboard and mouse support been implemented with anything else as of yet. Can't say I've heard of it but don't often use my PS3. If it hasn't though, I don't see this game bucking the trend

Unreal Tournament 3 if I remember right.
toolio20 8th June 2011, 21:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Woodspoon
That's a good point, I'm not sure how many Dust players will actually realise how vast the universe above them is, how much of a difference they could be making to some aspects of EvE life and just look at it like a regular fps.

Agreed - makes this concept pretty intriguing, actually. It could capture the feeling of being a Division or Brigade Commander, making plans, strategies and orders but ultimately having to rely on the individual Company, Platoon and squad leadership to succeed on the battlefield. This is a rich concept, and if competently and successfully executed it could be a game changer (pun only somewhat intentional).

Will keep an eye on this...
DwarfKiller 8th June 2011, 22:54 Quote
This may be the game that makes me buy a PS3.
So much potential. CCP better not screw it up.
Dr. Strangelove 9th June 2011, 10:10 Quote
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Sony is a lot more… open, shall we say
So they hacked their way in like everyone else seem to be doing at the moment?? :p

Anyway don't really care, never liked EVE
Xtrafresh 9th June 2011, 11:12 Quote
CCP gets a huge ;) from me for basically giving the finger to Live and its many restrictions.
Fizzl 10th June 2011, 08:00 Quote
But surely the PC is as open as you can get!

It's a shame because I have a few friends who are really into eve but I've never really got space combat.

In fact very few PC gamers I know play Eve surely by virtue of it being a shooter not a space mmo it will be a mostly different audience.

I guess this will make stabbing the troops in the back easier if they are all console gamers! :)
tmp138 10th June 2011, 19:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by enciem
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Originally Posted by Kernel
Quote:
Originally Posted by enciem
The PS3 might support a keyboard and mouse but it won't support it for this game. It would make it unfair to those playing with a pad, it's nothing like playing on the PC because of this.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Press Release

DUST 514 has been built from the ground up to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the PlayStation platform. Digitally distributed, the full game download will be available through PlayStation® Network (PSN). It will feature full support for Sony’s PlayStation®Move motion controller and Sharp Shooter accessory, and over time will extend the game experience across the full PlayStation ecosystem to Home and NGP.

If it supports the shiny Move stuff, can't see why it won't have Keyboard and mouse support.

Has keyboard and mouse support been implemented with anything else as of yet. Can't say I've heard of it but don't often use my PS3. If it hasn't though, I don't see this game bucking the trend

In Little Big Planet 2, you could use the keyboard to chat with other online party members
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