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Lucasarts: 'We haven't always made good games'

Lucasarts: 'We haven't always made good games'

Lucasarts has acknowledged that previous Star Wars games haven't always been as good as they could be.

Lucasarts has pledged to gamers that future Star Wars games will offer a more authentic and immersive experience than recent titles, which it acknowledges have often missed the mark.

There are two Star Wars games currently in production, but neither are being developed by Lucasarts directly. Instead, Bioware is working on PC MMO Star Wars: The Old Republic, while Terminal Reality is making Star Wars Kinect for the Xbox 360.

'LucasArts is a company with tremendous potential,' Lucasarts' Paul Meegan said in an interview with MCV. 'I think people look at it and wonder why it hasn't done better in recent years.'

'In recent years, LucasArts hasn't always done a good job of making games. We should be making games that define our medium, that are competitive with the best of our industry, but we're not. That has to change...Our priority is to create authentic, immersive, high quality Star Wars games.'

Lucasarts' last Star Wars game was The Force Unleashed 2, which failed to wow critics. Other recent titles have focused on remakes of much-loved classics.

We had a look at the upcoming Star Wars: The Old Republic recently and were less than impressed. Bit-Gamer columnist Richard Cobbett also gave us his thoughts on the suitability of the fiction lately.

Check out a trailer for The Old Republic below, then head to the Video section for more. Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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arcticstoat 2nd June 2011, 11:49 Quote
LucasArts stopped making good games when it laid off its adventure games team, and decided to solely focus on sub-par Star Wars cash-ins. Also, no interest in Star Wars games that aren't based around the universe in the original three films, as I much prefer to pretend that everything Lucas has done doesn't actually exist. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight = good. Old Republic, Clone Wars and prequel-based games = meh. Would much rather have something like Grim Fandango any day. *grumbles like an old man*
arcticstoat 2nd June 2011, 11:50 Quote
Also, make a new X-Wing game.
azrael- 2nd June 2011, 11:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by arcticstoat
LucasArts stopped making good games when it laid off its adventure games team, and decided to solely focus on sub-par Star Wars cash-ins. Also, no interest in Star Wars games that aren't based around the universe in the original three films, as I much prefer to pretend that everything Lucas has done doesn't actually exist. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight = good. Old Republic, Clone Wars and prequel-based games = meh. Would much rather have something like Grim Fandango any day. *grumbles like an old man*
^ This ...pretty much.

Personally I'd change the article subject to "LucasArts: We haven't made a good game in years".
Paradigm Shifter 2nd June 2011, 11:57 Quote
Agree with arcticstoat and azrael-; Lucasarts died for me the moment they said there would be no more spacae-combat games, a genre which has much potential but is sorely lacking in good games.
Edwards 2nd June 2011, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by LucasArts
In recent years, LucasArts hasn't always done a good job of making games

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Tangster 2nd June 2011, 12:06 Quote
New X-wing game, I can't replay XWA and XvT forever.
Salty Wagyu 2nd June 2011, 12:08 Quote
I want to see a remake of the Tie Fighter Collector's Edition
Evildead666 2nd June 2011, 12:12 Quote
Grim Fandango and Tie Fighter were great.

Must find that joystick to play tie fighter again ;)
bogie170 2nd June 2011, 12:31 Quote
thelaw 2nd June 2011, 12:32 Quote
For sure, the industry is missing a good flight space sim playable on windows 7 and to play the old ones requires jigging your pc to get them to run, doesn't seem to be much out there..
stonedsurd 2nd June 2011, 12:35 Quote
X-Wing Alliance was my favorite. HD remake, pl0x.
Bede 2nd June 2011, 12:48 Quote
Jedi Academy 2 was the last good game they made. That it still has a decent online following now tells you all you need to know.
Flibblebot 2nd June 2011, 12:51 Quote
I'm with the others here - LucasArts hasn't made a really decent game since they decided to just focussing on the Star Wars universe and milking it till it squeaks.

In my mind, The Dig is one of the greatest games ever made. Most Star Wars games don't even come close, certainly none made since the mid-90s.

A message to George Lucas: time to jump off the cash cow, it's starting to smell a bit ripe. :D
eVoPhantom 2nd June 2011, 12:53 Quote
They did make some great games Tie fighter and a lot of classic adventure games that don't need mentioning but there have been a few decent games in the mix as well. Personally I spent a lot of time playing star wars supremecy. Although lucasarts only published it so not sure it counts!
Stotherd-001 2nd June 2011, 13:03 Quote
A new xwing game would be awesome with modern graphics. Hell, coming to think of it, any space sim would be pretty damned good.
balatro2005 2nd June 2011, 13:29 Quote
Think the last good one was X - wing alliance. Also rebellion was fantastic was gutted when I played empire at war such a disappointment.
Stelph 2nd June 2011, 13:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by eVoPhantom
They did make some great games Tie fighter and a lot of classic adventure games that don't need mentioning but there have been a few decent games in the mix as well. Personally I spent a lot of time playing star wars supremecy. Although lucasarts only published it so not sure it counts!

Ditto on Star Wars:Supremecy, its a great staregy game.

Also Ditto on a new X-Wing or Tie-fighter game, I do not understand why they moved away from the space-sim
Tattysnuc 2nd June 2011, 13:38 Quote
+1 to all those comments relating to X-Wing....
Glix 2nd June 2011, 13:40 Quote
You guys are forgetting Rogue Squadron, yes as a game it was average for it's time. But still, it was a much improved space sim over Shadows of the Empire.

XWA was good till you realised how out of proportion some of the capital ships were.
Stotherd-001 2nd June 2011, 13:42 Quote
Dammit... why did you people have toi mention rebellion/supremacy... there goes the next few days... I think I once death starred Coruscant.
GeorgeStorm 2nd June 2011, 13:48 Quote
I see I'm against the grain here,
Loved the battlefront games, both KOTORs, Empire at War space battles were a nice change from the norm. Enjoyed Force Unleashed, haven't played the 2nd. Recently got the remade Monkey Islands, such classics.
Really wish they made a Batlefront 3 though.
Bauul 2nd June 2011, 14:01 Quote
+2 to the space fighter games.

I played XvT and the add-on to absolute death. Yay Tie Defenders!
sub routine 2nd June 2011, 14:57 Quote
as soon as i hear the music all objectivity goes out the window, may the force be with you.
SMIFFYDUDE 2nd June 2011, 15:30 Quote
Love to hear Lucasfilm admit the same about what they do.
Lucasarts need to give Star Wars a rest for 5 mins. I really have no love for Star Wars.
SaNdCrAwLeR 2nd June 2011, 15:30 Quote
Rebellion was my favorite...
Empire at War was no where near as immersive as those loooooooong online matches :D
*feels old*
hyperion 2nd June 2011, 15:49 Quote
They should make an Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull game... kidding.
B1GBUD 2nd June 2011, 15:50 Quote
Please remake Day Of the Tenticle like you have for Monkey Island, and maybe even a new Indiana Jones?
balatro2005 2nd June 2011, 16:18 Quote
Think I may have caused a few reinstalls of rebellion/Supremacy today :-)
azrael- 2nd June 2011, 17:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by balatro2005
Think I may have caused a few reinstalls of rebellion/Supremacy today :-)
Not really, but I'm contemplating installing one of their adventures I got off STEAM. Although I just might dig out my CD copy of Grim Fandango... ;)
Yslen 2nd June 2011, 18:36 Quote
The two KOTOR games were amazing, I hope that's not what they're referring to here. They need to stop messing about with MMOs and get on with making the next one, IMO. They also need to stop harassing devs into releasing early, as that ruined KOTOR II, which would otherwise have been one of the best games I've ever played. I'd go as far as to say the KOTOR spin-off universe is better than that of the films.
azrael- 2nd June 2011, 18:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Yslen
The two KOTOR games were amazing, I hope that's not what they're referring to here. They need to stop messing about with MMOs and get on with making the next one, IMO. They also need to stop harassing devs into releasing early, as that ruined KOTOR II, which would otherwise have been one of the best games I've ever played. I'd go as far as to say the KOTOR spin-off universe is better than that of the films.
You do realize that neither of those games was created by LucasArts?

The first one was by BioWare and the second one by Obsidian, if memory serves me right.
Jehla 2nd June 2011, 19:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by arcticstoat
Also, make a new X-Wing game.

Word
dr-strangelove 2nd June 2011, 19:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by arcticstoat
. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight = good. Old Republic, Clone Wars and prequel-based games = meh.

Completely disagree. Imo the Old Republic games were the best addition to the Star Wars universe ever made, whereas the games and novels set around the original films just became increasingly lame over time. On the other hand the Clone Wars did suck.
HourBeforeDawn 2nd June 2011, 19:53 Quote
the ONLY game I think I liked was Knights of the Old Republic, outside of that they are all well clones of each other lol.
dave0ne 2nd June 2011, 21:23 Quote
Star Wars Galaxies had some major potential that SOE and Lucasarts right royally messed up. The MMO game dynamic was by far the best made and better than any WOW clone to date..... Then they thought that the WOW system was the way to go.

Really hope that Bioware are making this half as good as the original SWG and Lucasarts keep there grubby mitts of the game.
maximus09 2nd June 2011, 23:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jehla
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcticstoat
Also, make a new X-Wing game.

Word

oh yes please!

and more adventure games please ;)
Po|ygon 3rd June 2011, 00:06 Quote
For me back in the old days - in developing adventure games Lucasarts were in there prime!. I think the moral here is to stop making just Star Ward games and invent new franchises and titles with original stories.

Fate of Atlantis remake anyone? :)
manowarrior 3rd June 2011, 01:14 Quote
"We havn't always made good games"

Factually the statement is correct but it worngly makes you think that the good games must have been recent and the crap games a long time ago, but actually it is the other way around.

Some good Lucas Arts games...

Fate Of Atlantis
Manic Mansion
Monkey Island 1 & 2
Day Of The Tenticle
Sam & Max

And the most recent must be 15 years old, Lucas Arts, you suck.

God bless the good old Lucas Arts adventure team, whatever happend to them???

And George Lucas will do anything for cash, what a scumbag.
Anyone seen the Indiana Jones and Darth Vader adverts on TV atm?
Disgusting.
XXAOSICXX 3rd June 2011, 07:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by hyperion
They should make an Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull game... kidding.

LOL. For Kinect: "Curl into a ball and hide in the fridge to survive the nuclear blast".

Failcakes.
johnnyboy700 3rd June 2011, 09:20 Quote
I'm currently replaying Jedi Outcast, I'd forgotten how much fun it is - still haven't came up against any of the reborn yet so I fuly expect my first lightabre duel to go badly wrong.

X-Wing was so well done I loved playing that with my hotas joystick & throttle combo, it might even be worth digging the old kit out again and eduring the titanic struggle it will be to get it up and running with a modern O/S and hardware.
Tie Fighter was genius, sometimes being bad can be soooo good. Has anyone tried geting either X-Wing or TF running on modern kit?
kornedbeefy 3rd June 2011, 13:53 Quote
I'd pay $100 for a new Jedi Knight game developed exclusively for PC. We had so much fun with them at LAN parties. MUST include dedicated servers and LAN play. After that they can dumb it down for consoles. Same goes for the space combat games Tie Fighter etc.

The market is in sore need of companies like the 90s Lucasarts. Not current companies like Activision who wants to nickel and dime (MW3 rumor of subsriptioned multiplayer and no dedicated severs AGAIN) you while in the same instant remove features many gamers still want.

If you want some space combat action Freespace 2 to has a very nice mod that brings it into the 2000s.

I think this is the right link http://scp.indiegames.us/
Tangster 3rd June 2011, 21:22 Quote
Just for general interest, I've had no problems with X-wing alliance running on Windows 7.(YES!)
Xir 6th June 2011, 09:50 Quote
Ah, the death of the spacesim...Why!!!!!!!

Also +1 for KOTOR
kzinti1 7th June 2011, 12:06 Quote
Lucasarts: 'We haven't always made good games'

Rather nice of them to be so humble.
I haven't heard such a blatant understatement in quite a while!
willywils 1st September 2011, 11:43 Quote
Hey,

So X-Wing was the game that catapulted me from being a casual take it or leave it gamer into a "I need to game now" gamer. It's that simple. Started with a Spectrum 128k, Commodore 64 (with the separate tape deck), Amiga 500 and then into the console ghetto. But after playing X-Wing on a friends dads PC one summer holiday...my life flipped and washing cars for pocket money went out with the bucket soapy water. I was broke but I didn't care as I could cruise the galaxy far far away in an A-wing, X-wing or a gunship Y-wing!

Not owning a PC, after X-Wing I went back to my casual gaming but was left with a hollow feeling like a Mojito with no mint. That was over 15 years ago now and after the years passed of beautiful gaming, Golden eye, GT, next gen consoles, online gaming, GTA, COD & Uncharted to name a mere few. Above all this, I still long for the simple, outer space, screeching tie fighters, red blue lasers, missiles & deflector shield cocktail that this game delivered. The weird thing is I don't even play sci-fi games. Monsters, zombies & aliens are all cold water for my gaming chubbie. And I'm not even crazy about the whole Star Wars thing either. I just want this game back.

Please everyone and anyone who sees this, be you town cryer, pet shop worker who bags fish or burger flipper John Smithson. Please copy and paste and post to any blog that you think might get the ragged short attention of some developer whos thinking what the next big seller will be. Drink some Tiger blood and remake X-Wing for consoles at least! Winning! How much money would it make?...lots. DLC options would be huge! Online could be epic. Why hasn't anyone done this already!? Can anyone tell me that? Or am I alone in this bubble of white stars and hyperspace laced infinity.

I am on a mission to see this game remade for PC & consoles and I may even put pen to paper to see if Lucas Arts can give me a simple explanation just to get some furniture for the empty room in my brain that says X-Wing on the door. It's been empty so long that the current games are merely the squatters next door.

End of rant. Thanks for reading.
rogerrabbits 1st September 2011, 19:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by arcticstoat
Also, make a new X-Wing game.

Gimme!
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Originally Posted by Xir
Ah, the death of the spacesim...Why!!!!!!!

Also +1 for KOTOR

There are still some good ones. The biggest budget being the X series, and there is a new one due early next year called X: Rebirth.
David164v8 4th September 2011, 12:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by arcticstoat
LucasArts stopped making good games when it laid off its adventure games team, and decided to solely focus on sub-par Star Wars cash-ins. Also, no interest in Star Wars games that aren't based around the universe in the original three films, as I much prefer to pretend that everything Lucas has done doesn't actually exist. Dark Forces and Jedi Knight = good. Old Republic, Clone Wars and prequel-based games = meh. Would much rather have something like Grim Fandango any day. *grumbles like an old man*

Agreed.
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