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Team Meat slams Microsoft's Xbox support

Team Meat slams Microsoft's Xbox support

Team Meat has accused Microsoft of failing to deliver on promises of marketing support.

Team Meat, the indie developer behind Super Meat Boy, has spoken out against Microsoft at GDC in San Francisco and accused the Xbox 360 team of failing to deliver on promises of marketing support.

Speaking at GDC 2011 Team Meat's co-CEO Tommy Refenes said that Microsoft promised that Super Meat Boy would be the only title released on XBLA on the week that it launched - during MS' October Game Feast event. However, Microsoft then released Double Fine's Costume Quest at the same time, putting two popular games against each other.

Refenes claims that Team Meat was also promised top-billing on XBLA's spotlight section, but that it never appeared. Only after numerous complaints were Team Meat able to get any promotion, eventually appearing in fourth position much later on launch day. Microsoft instead gave top-billing to the 'Spooktacular' collection of already released games.

'An ad for a Mazda 3 was the number two slot – because you all go on Xbox to figure out what car you want, right?' said Refenes, according to Eurogamer. 'We were number four and we stayed number four the entire week.'

Refenes then claims Microsoft promised that Super Meat Boy would get more promotion the better it sold, but that nothing changed despite strong sales that eclipsed other Game Feast titles and critical acclaim.

'We just kind of got pushed to the side, and that's basically how the Xbox Live launch went. The only reason the game sold well was because of how we promoted it. The help from Microsoft was there in a very limited capacity,' Refenes said.

'It's not supposed to hurt your feelings because it's business, but it totally hurt my feelings. Me and Ed just killed ourselves trying to get this game done'

Refenes adds that the creative team Team Meat was in contact with at Microsoft were much better, though Valve was much easier to work with when the Steam release came about. The PC release went off without a hitch, with sales easily surpassing those on consoles. Super Meat Boy is now approaching 400,000 sales.

Read our Super Meat Boy review for more information on the game, then let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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niro 1st March 2011, 10:01 Quote
no surprise that Valve is better than Microsoft when it comes to games...dedicated games company vs. jack-of-all-trades...no contest really
Snips 1st March 2011, 10:06 Quote
What was this game again?

It was promoted on Steam?

I'm on Steam every day and the only promotion I've seen about this game is this topic. Looking at the review Bit-Tech have done, I can see why XBLA pushed it back down the line.
bob_lewis 1st March 2011, 10:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snips
What was this game again?

It was promoted on Steam?

I'm on Steam every day and the only promotion I've seen about this game is this topic. Looking at the review Bit-Tech have done, I can see why XBLA pushed it back down the line.

Umm, what?

The game's great, and I seem to recall it was featured on the Steam Store frontpage for several weeks. I snagged it on the Christmas sale. A steal.
wuyanxu 1st March 2011, 10:24 Quote
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sales easily surpassing those on consoles.

surprise, surprise, a good innovative game sales better on PC!


*waits for Crytek to cry about lack of sales for their consolified Crysis 2 (press Start to begin)*
Javerh 1st March 2011, 10:29 Quote
It's all about writing a contract that has clause in store for when one party fails to meet their part. Better luck next time.
Snips 1st March 2011, 11:02 Quote
Seriously, I had no knowledge of this game until today.

Is it still priced at £11.99? I picked up BF2 with all the updates for £4 more last night which would probably give me more enjoyment.
mi1ez 1st March 2011, 12:28 Quote
@snips.

I would probably enjoy this more and it's cheaper. Each to their own.
Denis_iii 1st March 2011, 13:31 Quote
M$ are slowly getting better but ALOT to do on the backend to get things flowing right. Fingers crossed the pay steam to take over and run games for Windows which would never happen.
M$ should just buy steam, leave it with Valve to manage but change to a open games market so have ONE centralised store.
Woodspoon 1st March 2011, 14:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by bob_lewis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snips
What was this game again?

It was promoted on Steam?

I'm on Steam every day and the only promotion I've seen about this game is this topic. Looking at the review Bit-Tech have done, I can see why XBLA pushed it back down the line.

Umm, what?

The game's great, and I seem to recall it was featured on the Steam Store frontpage for several weeks. I snagged it on the Christmas sale. A steal.

Yes it was featured on the Steam store front page thing, might have even been on there more than once, definitely for at least a week though.
steveo_mcg 1st March 2011, 14:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Denis_iii
M$ are slowly getting better but ALOT to do on the backend to get things flowing right. Fingers crossed the pay steam to take over and run games for Windows which would never happen.
M$ should just buy steam, leave it with Valve to manage but change to a open games market so have ONE centralised store.

NO! MS should leave Steam alone and leave valve alone! Wouldn't be the first company they've bought and killed even with the best of intentions.
Snips 1st March 2011, 14:23 Quote
Microsoft doesn't have to do anything. Just checked on Steam and this game doesn't even sit in their first 10 Indie games.

This Rant by Team Meat is to drum up new publicity. To get that publicity you pick the biggest dog on the block, who every enjoys taking a pop at and get stuck in.

If I were Microsoft I'd tell Team Meat to take a hike. I'm sure whenever their next game is out they will be cap in hand to Microsoft saying "PPWWWEEEAAASSEE promote our game!"
SMIFFYDUDE 1st March 2011, 15:34 Quote
This game was all over steam front page for ages a month or two ago, I can't understand how people missed it.
sotu1 1st March 2011, 16:23 Quote
Was it written into your contract in detail what you would get? Otherwise you don't have a leg to stand on. Sucks I know, but it's all about the contract.
Snips 1st March 2011, 16:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by sotu1
Was it written into your contract in detail what you would get? Otherwise you don't have a leg to stand on. Sucks I know, but it's all about the contract.

This +1
knuck 1st March 2011, 21:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snips
What was this game again?

It was promoted on Steam?

I'm on Steam every day and the only promotion I've seen about this game is this topic. Looking at the review Bit-Tech have done, I can see why XBLA pushed it back down the line.


That must have been one hell of a comfy rock you were hiding under
Snips 2nd March 2011, 08:05 Quote
Judging by the buy figures, there's an awful lot of these rocks around!
The_Beast 2nd March 2011, 08:25 Quote
I have a dirty mind
bloodcar 2nd March 2011, 09:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis_iii
M$ are slowly getting better but ALOT to do on the backend to get things flowing right. Fingers crossed the pay steam to take over and run games for Windows which would never happen.
M$ should just buy steam, leave it with Valve to manage but change to a open games market so have ONE centralised store.

I'm sorry, but every time I see "M$" all I see is
http://img140.imageshack.us/i/microoft.jpg/
Snips 2nd March 2011, 11:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by bloodcar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis_iii
M$ are slowly getting better but ALOT to do on the backend to get things flowing right. Fingers crossed the pay steam to take over and run games for Windows which would never happen.
M$ should just buy steam, leave it with Valve to manage but change to a open games market so have ONE centralised store.

I'm sorry, but every time I see "M$" all I see is
http://img140.imageshack.us/i/microoft.jpg/

That is exactly the image I get. He He
djab 2nd March 2011, 14:05 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snips
What was this game again?

It was promoted on Steam?

I'm on Steam every day and the only promotion I've seen about this game is this topic. Looking at the review Bit-Tech have done, I can see why XBLA pushed it back down the line.

I think that is what steam has done: http://tinyurl.com/4kckujb
They even add a Head Crab character to the game.
b5k 3rd March 2011, 02:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Denis_iii
M$ should just buy steam
Don't forget that Valve makes more profit per employee than Google or Microsoft. They also don't publically announce profits since they don't have to, they're a private company. I doubt Microsoft could offer Valve anything to get them to part with such a low maintenance and high profit venture.
Toploaded 4th March 2011, 16:28 Quote
Seems it's not just Team Meat making these claims, for what it's worth.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/03/introversion-its-unlikely-that-well-work-with-microsoft-again/
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