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Valve to announce DOTA game today?

Valve to announce DOTA game today?

Valve has hinted that it will announce a new game later today, speculated to be a new DOTA title.

Valve is rumoured to be announcing a new game later today and, while Valve hasn't released any official hints, it is heavily speculated to be a new Defence of the Ancients game.

The rumours mainly come from a series of trademarks Valve filed to protect the DOTA and Defence of the Ancients names, which appeared after Defence of the Ancients Allstars developer, Icefrog, was hired by Valve and put in charge of a new project.

More recently, voice actor Jon St. John, best known for providing the voice of Serious Sam tweeted that he was recording voice work with Valve for a new DOTA game - though the tweet has since been removed.

Valve's official line is that it will be announcing a new title later today via Game Informer, though it won't disclose exactly what it is. Game Informer hasn't hidden the fact that it was visiting Icefrog just last week though.

Defence of the Ancients is a small tactics, avatar-based strategy which grew a new genre out a Warcraft 3 mod.

We'll bring you more details when we receive them, but for now all there is is a lot of very convincing rumours.

Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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tristanperry 13th October 2010, 10:33 Quote
Sounds very interesting. From the little I've heard of DOTA, I think I'd definitely enjoy it. Hurry up with the announcement, Valve ;)
Kiytan 13th October 2010, 10:50 Quote
More importantly than serious sam Jon st. John is Duke Nukem :P

if this dota game can avoid the really elitist and arsehole community that HoN seems to have picked up, it could be really, really good.
r3loaded 13th October 2010, 10:53 Quote
Phalanx 13th October 2010, 11:06 Quote
If they can make a DotA-style game that is friendly for new players, I'm in. I've wanted to play all the ones out at the moment, but none of them allow a single mistake from a new player.
proxess 13th October 2010, 11:07 Quote
IMHO I'd rather they just hurry up with the Half-Life series and Portal 2...
Singularity 13th October 2010, 11:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
IMHO I'd rather they just hurry up with the Half-Life series and Portal 2...

Same here. I've tried DOTA a few times. I just don't see any appeal in it at all.
CardJoe 13th October 2010, 11:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Singularity
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Originally Posted by proxess
IMHO I'd rather they just hurry up with the Half-Life series and Portal 2...

Same here. I've tried DOTA a few times. I just don't see any appeal in it at all.
Xir 13th October 2010, 11:50 Quote
Huh...I read "Day of the Tentacle"
oh well :D
Omnituens 13th October 2010, 11:52 Quote
I'll just stick to LoL methinks.
Unknownsock 13th October 2010, 12:01 Quote
Although i do understand it all, still seems wrong to steal a community brand in a sense and make profit of it.
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Originally Posted by Singularity
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Originally Posted by proxess
IMHO I'd rather they just hurry up with the Half-Life series and Portal 2...

Same here. I've tried DOTA a few times. I just don't see any appeal in it at all.

Because sir, it is awesome. And everyone loves competitive gameplay!
tennisball 13th October 2010, 12:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
IMHO I'd rather they just hurry up with the Half-Life series and Portal 2...

I've said this before, and I''ll say it again.

It's not the same team. Left 4 Dead (2), portal 2, and now this have nothing to do with the Half life team.


On topic though, I'm scptical, Valve making a non-FPS game just doesn't seem right.
loftie 13th October 2010, 12:19 Quote
Interesting. League of Legends has become my number one time soak at the moment, though I find myself using the
/ignore enemy
command as I enter every game.
frontline 13th October 2010, 12:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by tennisball

I've said this before, and I''ll say it again.

It's not the same team. Left 4 Dead (2), portal 2, and now this have nothing to do with the Half life team.

I don't think anybody said it was, but although they have a history of 'buying in' 3rd party teams and their ip, i'm pretty sure they have people working on several different projects at once (purely because they don't employ the same number of staff as other major developers). However, VALVE will be the company releasing them all.

Personally, i'm also only interested in HL2 Ep3, Portal 2 or something along the lines of a sequel to Day of Defeat Source (the last is just wishful thinking).
Kris 13th October 2010, 12:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by r3loaded
Obligatory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OzWIFX8M-Y
Grrrrrr: This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Anyway, as long as the game is fun to play, i'm down with it. :)
bowman 13th October 2010, 13:32 Quote
SDFGHUYRTSGHREYHTHRTDG5RH6RH

omg.

This is gonna be awesome.
Phalanx 13th October 2010, 13:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by bowman
SDFGHUYRTSGHREYHTHRTDG5RH6RH

Translation please! Or was it just a brain-fart?
RichCreedy 13th October 2010, 14:59 Quote
hey is that your beta key?
Abhorsen 13th October 2010, 15:42 Quote
I think LoL is due an updated Bit-tech review as they said they'd do when it became fully fledged as opposed to the beta review.
Altron 13th October 2010, 16:09 Quote
I'm excited for it.

I just hope they don't go change everything cosmetically.

That's what bugged me about HoN, which I played during the beta.

75% of the HoN heroes are complete rips of DotA heroes, but renamed.

The biggest reason I haven't gotten HoN is that I don't want to bother re-learning the names of heroes I already know.

I want this to be the same DotA gameplay mechanics with a vastly improved game engine, but I don't want them to rename every single hero and item like HoN did.

It would have been one thing if HoN just created new items and heroes from scratch, but they made the items and heroes identical to ones in DotA, but with different names. Why? So we have to spend weeks memorizing everything that we already know?

I wasn't a fan of HoN's graphic style either. It was too flashy and busy. I prefer the slightly cartoony look of the Warcraft 3 original.
Altron 13th October 2010, 16:13 Quote
That being said, the infamous DotA learning curve is a double edge sword. It certainly discourages new players, but it keeps things interesting for the old players.

DotA has so much content that it takes a huge amount of effort to learn how to play, but once you are playing you stay entertained because of how much variety and finesse there is.

I'd like to see tiered matchmaking like HoN had. I'd also like to see a real "easy mode". Not the current "-EM" one that just speeds up the game, I mean one that has less heroes and items to be easier to learn. I know DotA very well because I picked it up years ago when there were far fewer heroes and items, and I could learn them. Trying to learn all of the current heroes from nothing is a monumental task.
delriogw 13th October 2010, 16:39 Quote
if i'm reading this right, the people that made the 'original' are on the payroll of valve?

in which case i can see it being the truest 'rework' there's been
it's not a style that particularly appeals to me (my experience comes from HoN), but i have a fair few friends that play DotA, HoN and LoL so i know they'll be intrigued by this
Unknownsock 13th October 2010, 17:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Altron
75% of the HoN heroes are complete rips of DotA heroes, but renamed..

Correction.
75% of HoN is taken from Dota/Wc3.
CharlO 13th October 2010, 17:53 Quote
Hope they make more variants and has a better motor than LoL show why you are a big company :P
vdbswong 13th October 2010, 21:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by delriogw
if i'm reading this right, the people that made the 'original' are on the payroll of valve?

in which case i can see it being the truest 'rework' there's been
it's not a style that particularly appeals to me (my experience comes from HoN), but i have a fair few friends that play DotA, HoN and LoL so i know they'll be intrigued by this

From what i've read/seen not quite.

IIRC, one of the main people is now on Valve's payroll.

2 others (Guinsoo and Pendragon) are with Riot Games' "League of Legends".

Apparently HoN has some DotA devs too? Although i'm not sure about that.

Also.

clicky - Very interesting and apparently quite long article about DotA 2.

+ You're in luck Altron, apparently they're porting all the chars. from DotA in the sequel (same names etc.

Although that's the one thing that put me off HoN. When you first start League, you can only access the "free" Champions (which rotate every week). So you learn champions slowly. With HoN, i just felt thrown into the deep end, hence why i never bothered carrying on with it out of beta.
Altron 13th October 2010, 23:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by vdbswong
From what i've read/seen not quite.

IIRC, one of the main people is now on Valve's payroll.

2 others (Guinsoo and Pendragon) are with Riot Games' "League of Legends".

Apparently HoN has some DotA devs too? Although i'm not sure about that.

Also.

clicky - Very interesting and apparently quite long article about DotA 2.

+ You're in luck Altron, apparently they're porting all the chars. from DotA in the sequel (same names etc.

Although that's the one thing that put me off HoN. When you first start League, you can only access the "free" Champions (which rotate every week). So you learn champions slowly. With HoN, i just felt thrown into the deep end, hence why i never bothered carrying on with it out of beta.

Yeah, that's the catch with DotA. You do get thrown in the deep end with nearly 100 unique heroes and about 100 different items.

But once you're in the deep end, there's a lot to do. I still learn new strategies on a regular basis, and I've been playing it for well over six years.

Also, having to pay for certain heroes sounds terrible.
vdbswong 13th October 2010, 23:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Altron
Yeah, that's the catch with DotA. You do get thrown in the deep end with nearly 100 unique heroes and about 100 different items.

But once you're in the deep end, there's a lot to do. I still learn new strategies on a regular basis, and I've been playing it for well over six years.

Also, having to pay for certain heroes sounds terrible.

Hmmm, sometimes i wish League was that in depth.

Although the meta game constantly changes with the definition of high and low tier champions being moved around depending on team comps and strategies constantly. Ultimately each champion is played the same, it's just how "as a team" they work together that is different, or just a specific combination of champions that share something in common.

Also, as for "paying" for certain heroes. It's not really like that, just that i couldn't be bothered to explain it all. Basically when you start out you only get access to the aforementioned "free" champions which rotate every week. Ultimately all the different champions have been free at some point in time (some more than others - the easier to play ones). Also each game you play you earn "IP", a sort of in game currency. With this you can exchange it for permanent access to a champion (with different champions costing different amounts). Alternatively you can just pay real money for a champion as well, but if you play long enough you can get every champion in the game for free.

Personally, i really like this method of introduction. It means that when you begin, sure, you're limited to only a few champions, but the same can be said of the opposition. If you play regularly it means that you can get quite a bit of knowledge on those champions before the rotation comes up. When it does, you're introduced to another set of champions which you can start learning. After a few games, you can usually buy a cheap character that you've seen and/or played and get to know them better.

This way it starts you off with a very small pool of characters (9-10) and slowly introduces you to the others as you play more. Rather than just being "thrown in the deep end" with the 50/60 chars they have now. I don't even know where i'd begin with DotA/HoN's 100 or so.
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