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Epic: "We're still a PC company"

Epic: "We're still a PC company"

Mark Rein claims it is still a PC company now, though the studios focus still seems confused...

Epic Games vice president Mark Rein has once dismissed talk that the Unreal developer has become console focused, reaffirming the studio's commitment to the PC platform.

"I think that's a myth that we've abandoned the PC, it's just not true," Rein told RPS.

"I mean, Bulletstorm is coming out on three platforms; we've just been in this situation where our biggest franchise has been published by a console-holder, and was a very console designed-IP," said Rein.

"Don't confuse Gears of War with everything we do," he insisted..

It's worth pointing out though that Rein's comments come only shortly after Epic president Mike Capps said that piracy on the PC platform had forced the company to focus on consoles. Hmm.

"People are saying ‘why do you hate the PC? You're a console-only company’," said Capps back in May. "It's because the money's on consoles.

Epic's main studio is currently working on Gears of War 3, while subsidiary People Can Fly is working on Bulletstorm. While Gears is an Xbox 360 exclusive, Bulletstorm is a multiplatform title. You can read more about Bulletstorm in our interview with People Can Fly founder Adrian Chmielarz.

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NuTech 2nd July 2010, 11:04 Quote
They got offered a sweet deal from Microsoft for one particular exclusive IP, and they took it. I don't see what the problem is, they're not actively avoiding the PC.

If anything, we should be thanking them. If it wasn't for their engine making it very easy to port games to the PC, we would have even fewer games to bitch and moan about...
Skippylee 2nd July 2010, 11:04 Quote
What a confusing article. Are they or are they not making PC games? Anyway, who cares?
runadumb 2nd July 2010, 11:05 Quote
Piracy ruins PC gaming! 2nd hand market is killing the console market! Maybe we should just forget about gaming all together or maybe, just maybe make decent games.
Unknownsock 2nd July 2010, 11:05 Quote
I'm still waiting for a Gears 2 port...
CardJoe 2nd July 2010, 11:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by Unknownsock
I'm still waiting for a Gears 2 port...

Keep waiting.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2008/09/30/epic-no-gears-of-war-2-pc/1
[PUNK] crompers 2nd July 2010, 11:10 Quote
am i missing something here? why is everyone sucking up to pc gamers all of a sudden? after years of disregard MS, Molyneaux and now Epic (MS and epic by the way have been particularly blase about the pc market for about 4 years now).

perhaps the life cycle is coming to an end? people are starting to realise PC gaming may have a few golden years ahead of it as the two boxes are running out of steam?
wuyanxu 2nd July 2010, 11:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by NuTech

If anything, we should be thanking them. If it wasn't for their engine making it very easy to port games to the PC, we would have even fewer games to bitch and moan about...

UT3 was the first game with shitty graphics setting and menu system that was using the said engine.

there is no excuse, from their development of UE3, they've abandoned all thought of producing a PC originated masterpiece.

there won't be another game like UT99 from Epic.


this statement is simply marketing for their multi-platform title, which will have zero antialising support, bad menu system and console-minded controls. we'll be lucky if it's got mouse support (like other million bad UE3 ports out there)
lacuna 2nd July 2010, 11:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by [PUNK


perhaps the life cycle is coming to an end? people are starting to realise PC gaming may have a few golden years ahead of it as the two boxes are running out of steam?

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/valve-is-bringing-steam-to-ps3-20100616/

At least one of them is getting some more Steam
bbshammo 2nd July 2010, 11:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by [PUNK] crompers
am i missing something here? why is everyone sucking up to pc gamers all of a sudden? after years of disregard MS, Molyneaux and now Epic (MS and epic by the way have been particularly blase about the pc market for about 4 years now).

perhaps the life cycle is coming to an end? people are starting to realise PC gaming may have a few golden years ahead of it as the two boxes are running out of steam?

Yeah, it seems some companies have to keep explaining themselves to the PC market as it's a far more discerning.

Console gamers are generally more easy-going I'd say, and far less demanding, and this may have seemed attractive to companies with little skill, creativity, or energy as they are an easier target.

Presumably, now the books are back in order from skimming the console hordes, they want to invest in a little PC-gaming PR?

It would make sense as the console markets must be so saturated now, and the success of Valve (Steam) proving that PC gaming is as lucrative IF you know how to manage it, that the losers who jumped ship previously, are reconsidering.

Hmmmmm.

Sorry Epic, at least to me, your image is forever tarnished. The "Epic" brand is not what it used to be, and it'd take huge efforts from them to begin to change that.

"Epic" = ???????

I'd be happier if the likes of them just stayed put and allowed other more innovative and committed companies to take their place, rather than strong-arm their way back and offer lacklustre, half-baked rubbish.

They left for many good reasons, and any tripe spouted by them now is just annoying; thanks for the quotes Bit-Tech :).
Omnituens 2nd July 2010, 11:34 Quote
Unreal Engine is a bag of cack

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single game based on that engine I liked, as it's ugly and clunky. I would have liked bioshock for example if was built on a better engine and wasn't so consolified.
Farting Bob 2nd July 2010, 11:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Omnituens
Unreal Engine is a bag of cack

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single game based on that engine I liked, as it's ugly and clunky. I would have liked bioshock for example if was built on a better engine and wasn't so consolified.

Theres plenty of games based on it that are excellent. Batman: AA won awards from the PC gaming crowd and it was built using UE3. Borderlands was another great game.
erratum1 2nd July 2010, 11:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by [PUNK
crompers]am i missing something here? why is everyone sucking up to pc gamers all of a sudden? after years of disregard MS, Molyneaux and now Epic (MS and epic by the way have been particularly blase about the pc market for about 4 years now).

perhaps the life cycle is coming to an end? people are starting to realise PC gaming may have a few golden years ahead of it as the two boxes are running out of steam?

Maybe as the consoles get older pc gaming then picks up, and the developers are catching on to this. If the consoles have another 5 years before the next gen, surely more people will be tempted by the superior technology in pc gaming.

To Epic give us the Gears Of War trilogy, then i'll believe you.
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Theres plenty of games based on it that are excellent. Batman: AA won awards from the PC gaming crowd and it was built using UE3. Borderlands was another great game.

Also the engine has to be easy to work with, developers obviously like using it and batman was a great game.

A little moan though is I do need AA, all games should have it as standard.....Yes Mass effect 2 im looking at you, which looks ugly without AA.
Kilmoor 2nd July 2010, 12:31 Quote
Porting a console game to PC is NOT supporting the PC community. Designing games that utilize our very expensive, cutting edge hardware is more what I have in mind. Consoles, by nature, are old technology, and old technology ported to my PC is not going to get me to spend money. I wouldn't even buy a DX9 game on the second-hand market. Bioshock? Please. It was visual, uniqe, and creative, but the big console-style tips, prompts, and menus ruined it. We're better than that.

Oh well, I'll just keep re-playing the STALKER series and HL2 over and over, patiently waiting for pc-exclusive games of that class to come to market.
UncertainGod 2nd July 2010, 12:35 Quote
They may still be a PC games company, the issue is I simply won't buy any of there games. Indeed it takes something incredible from another company for me to buy it if it's powered by the frankly awful UE3.
gavomatic57 2nd July 2010, 13:03 Quote
Unreal 3 is ok in the right hands, but so far it just an easy way out for a lot of mediocre games from mediocre developers.

I'd rather devs took the time and licensed CryEngine or X-ray...or even Source would be an improvement.
NortyOne 2nd July 2010, 13:52 Quote
It's good to see the old cycle still going. PC's stil push the boundaries of gaming, especially when you consider current gen consoles are based on hardware that is easily 5 years old or more. i for one was a long time pc fan but when the xbox came out and all my friends got one, i ended it up abandoning ship for a while cus it was cheaper and easier. I think MS should have doen the decent thing and kept up with windows live for pc, people have invested to much time and money in xbox live etc to go back to pc gaming in a hurry. PC's need a singualr community with achievements etc Like steam and an somehing liek the xbox chat/party functions.

Consoles are far to profitable to be a PC dedicated company, you can't blame them, but it is a pain in the all pc faithfuls with big rigs with nothing but the occasional port to play on them. all we need is a few good exclusives

PS to Epic.... i await unreal tournament 4 lol
mastorofpuppetz 2nd July 2010, 13:59 Quote
Sick of the overrated Unreal 3 console engine.

They have not made a good game on PC for many years, their only decent IP is 360 only, yet both are on the PC gaming alliance. Actions speak louder then words epic.
dyzophoria 2nd July 2010, 14:37 Quote
atleast his honest though that he primarily cares about the money on being made on consoles =\
Unknownsock 2nd July 2010, 14:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknownsock
I'm still waiting for a Gears 2 port...

Keep waiting.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2008/09/30/epic-no-gears-of-war-2-pc/1

Yea i realise that probably should have worded it differently.
I still want it though :o
I can't Justify a console purchase solely for that though, although maybe Skate 3..
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Originally Posted by Farting Bob
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omnituens
Unreal Engine is a bag of cack

Off the top of my head I can't think of a single game based on that engine I liked, as it's ugly and clunky. I would have liked bioshock for example if was built on a better engine and wasn't so consolified.

Theres plenty of games based on it that are excellent. Batman: AA won awards from the PC gaming crowd and it was built using UE3. Borderlands was another great game.

Although theres alot of bad things about the engine..such as custom resolution support.
Evildead666 2nd July 2010, 15:53 Quote
I suppose Bulletstorm will come out multiplatform : PS3, Xbox360 and Wii....lol
Pete J 2nd July 2010, 16:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Unknownsock
I'm still waiting for a Gears 2 port...
Same here >:(
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Originally Posted by erratum1
A little moan though is I do need AA, all games should have it as standard.....Yes Mass effect 2 im looking at you, which looks ugly without AA.
Abso-bloody-lutely! Luckily you can now force it through Nvidia drivers for ME2 but there are glitches with it here and there - nothing game wrecking though.
Chombo 2nd July 2010, 17:16 Quote
If all this were true then where is Gears 2 PC?

Also, I don't think Epic can claim Bulletstorm since they didn't develope it.
Nikols 3rd July 2010, 10:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by [PUNK
crompers]am i missing something here? why is everyone sucking up to pc gamers all of a sudden? after years of disregard MS, Molyneaux and now Epic (MS and epic by the way have been particularly blase about the pc market for about 4 years now).

perhaps the life cycle is coming to an end? people are starting to realise PC gaming may have a few golden years ahead of it as the two boxes are running out of steam?

Developers have been making 360 games for 5 years. PC Hardware has taking a big step forward this year. By the sounds of things 360 and ps3 are gonna be around another 5 years. If I was a developer churning out 360 games I know where I'd be looking to keep my programmers interested and let the creativity flow even if it was just a few pet projects! More realistically tho, when the new batch of consoles do finally arrive they'll be sporting the latest and greatest pc hardware. There's only one way to stay up to date till then while the current crop of consoles slowly die
frontline 3rd July 2010, 17:15 Quote
Personally, i'd be more interested in Consoles if they were more open and flexible, e.g. you could effectively turn them into PC's with a keyboard and mouse for proper first person gaming as well as other tasks. Sony have effectively killed any hint of this now. The golden age of gaming for me was the rise of the Atari ST and Amiga, which seemed to completely overshadow the consoles of the time, as they offered better games and a range of other software.
Star*Dagger 3rd July 2010, 20:12 Quote
PC Gaming™ will never die, only multiply.

PC Gaming™ is the center of the Gaming Universe. Gaming finds its truest expression between the Twin Cores of CPU and GPU!

Yours in PC Gaming Plasma,
Star*Dagger
Krayzie_B.o.n.e. 6th July 2010, 22:05 Quote
The Unreal Engine sucks spherical objects. I'll take Source, X-Ray , FrostBite, or CryEngine 2 any day over that crap. Epic got a great deal from Microsoft and like any body else would have they took it.

I hate PC Piracy being mentioned in every article. There are proven cost efficient ways to prevent Piracy that consumers will be happy with but no one wants to implement it. So SHUT UP.

Instead of PC piracy just say LAZY DEVELOPERS because the stuff you guys make doesn't even push the hardware we spend billions of dollars buying. At this point in time every game should look better than Crysis.

All Console ports deserve to get pirated or not bought because they lack the quality and resources that PC gamers expect so why pay for something that doesn't utilize the power of my system. It's like having a 100" LED 120hz 3D HD super duper color TV but forced to pay for black n white 2D sub HD over the air programming.

Console gaming is really hurting GAMING as a whole right now because so many developers jumped on the console band wagon that cutting edge gaming has just turned into what CRAP can we make that will sell a few million copies to the casual gaming consolers who will buy anything they see advertised all day long?

Gaming innovation comes from PC gaming and PC gaming companies so what innovation has Epic been apart of lately?
jokerr 7th July 2010, 11:57 Quote
Not to worry though we'll get something new and innovative in about 5 years time when the current creaking consoles final die!
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