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Three new Call of Duty games in the works

Three new Call of Duty games in the works

Activision insider Dam Amrich is urging IW staff to stay in order to claim redistributed bonuses.

Activision insider Dam Amrich has revealed that Activision has three new Call of Duty games planned for release by 2012, while at the same time urging remaining Infinity Ward staff to remain with Activision.

Posting on the Gamers Against Bobby Kotick Facebook page, Amrich confirmed previous rumours that a new studio had been bought in to work on the Call of Duty franchise.

"They've confirmed three games in the next two years," Amrich wrote. "Seeing as how there is a pattern of one new COD game every year, this is one new COD game from one new developer, and in a different genre from the core games we've seen."

Liaising with disgruntled gamers who had formed against Activision Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick, Amrich admitted that he didn't agree with some of the past decisions that Kotick had made, though he still stood by the company.

"I wish that the GH avalanche that hit us last year did not exist [and] I think the $15 price point for MW2 DLC was a mistake" said Amrich. "While I respect him as a businessman, I wish Bobby Kotick would not shoot from the hip so often."

Amrich, who works as an Activision blogger and podcaster, also urged the remaining Infinity Ward staff who hadn't fled after founders Jason West and Vince Zampella to stay with the company - if only to collect on the bonuses that those staff had forfeited. Of course, the irony is that most of the departed claim they left because they weren't getting their promised payments.

"Vince and Jason had very large bonuses; those bonuses are being redistributed to everybody else, to the people who did not allegedly attempt to steal company secrets," said Amrich.

"Activision is not pocketing that bonus money; it's still going to the people who work at IW. But you have to work at IW to get it, see? I don't want to see talented people screwed out of a paycheck any more than you do."

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capnPedro 22nd April 2010, 11:18 Quote
*milk* *milk* *milk*

Does anyone else hear something?
Three games in just over 1.5 years!? Can you really develop a quality product in six months?
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Activision is not pocketing that bonus money; it's still going to the people who work at IW. But you have to work at IW to get it, see? I don't want to see talented people screwed out of a paycheck any more than you do.
Then pay them it. Now. And let them walk if they don't want to work for arseholes.
proxess 22nd April 2010, 11:29 Quote
Obviously one of them is a CoD MMO.
Showerhead 22nd April 2010, 11:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by capnPedro

Three games in just over 1.5 years!? Can you really develop a quality product in six months?
Nope you can pretty much gurantee it'll be same engine and model with a different setting/scenery and storyline. Something a mod team could probably put together in the same time frame.
Gunsmith 22nd April 2010, 11:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Showerhead
Nope you can pretty much gurantee it'll be same engine and model with a different setting/scenery and storyline. Something a mod team could probably put together in the same time frame.

and for 10 quid more then the last one
steveo_mcg 22nd April 2010, 11:41 Quote
resounding meh, the console gamers will likely lap it up but i just can't seem to care.
Bursar 22nd April 2010, 12:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
Obviously one of them is a CoD MMO.

I'd be more inclined to bet on an RTS game.
theflatworm 22nd April 2010, 12:09 Quote
*yawn*
gavomatic57 22nd April 2010, 12:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by capnPedro
Can you really develop a quality product in six months?

That's just it, they're not. CoD2 was the last good one - it had a plot. Sure, it was based on a historical event so it was almost written for them, but even so...
V3ctor 22nd April 2010, 12:16 Quote
Ad new skins, put a tree here and there and milk...
Fizzban 22nd April 2010, 12:32 Quote
Three expansions in 1.5 years would maybe be ok. But real quality games take a while to produce even if you have the graphics engine sorted out in advance. Three quality games in 1.5 years? Seems pretty unlikely.
Mentai 22nd April 2010, 12:35 Quote
It's 3 different studios working concurrently, so that's a turn around of 1-2 years per game, which is standard fare for an fps. Even Valve pumped out a decent sequel in 1 year.

The non fps is a 3rd person action/adventure done by sledgehammer games (founded by guys who lead Dead Space dev). I expect all of these CoD's to be passable games (6/10, though I'm sure IGN et al will be dishing out 8's and 9's) but even if one is exceptional it is still going to suffer from brand saturation.

If making games means any more than just a job to those left at IW I see no reason for them to stay. The lack of creative freedom at Activision is stifling and damaging to the industry as a whole. We need new studios to create new IP with the unique vision of someone fresh, not be put straight to work on the most generic dross out there.
BentAnat 22nd April 2010, 12:37 Quote
Let's see:
Modern Warfare 3,
Another WW2 one from treyarch,
and an RTS based on the same engine from a 3rd party, which will be aimed squarely at an aging Company of Heroes, and fail horribly...

That's my 2c worth
impar 22nd April 2010, 12:43 Quote
Greetings!

Could be a RTS, a MMO and a RPG.
UrbanMarine 22nd April 2010, 12:44 Quote
GravitySmacked 22nd April 2010, 12:51 Quote
I, for one, can't wait to play 3 more Call of Duty titles in the near future. Especially now that the original development team have left. I'm sure they will exceed our heady expectations.
UrbanMarine 22nd April 2010, 13:17 Quote
The original dev team left Westwood and we've all seen that mess.
ambrose 22nd April 2010, 14:06 Quote
sure we have all that bonus money...... i mean we paid 50m to make game + 100m selling it, minus that from the 1bn we raked in off the last one, yeah we have the cash. oh the bonuses we talked about.... oh uh..... just dont quit. we promise youll get it. actually lets just say last one to quit gets the cash.
wuyanxu 22nd April 2010, 14:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by UrbanMarine
The original dev team left Westwood and we've all seen that mess.
indeed

but i will be expecting the game by Treyarch to feel most like an original CoD game.
proxess 22nd April 2010, 15:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bursar
I'd be more inclined to bet on an RTS game.

I'm sorry but they're all making MMOs of something that already exists. Then they cancel it. It's either an MMO or a MOD for +10 bucks over the last one.
Silver51 22nd April 2010, 15:38 Quote
kornedbeefy 22nd April 2010, 15:55 Quote
I was becoming bored of COD series with COD2 and refused to buy COD MW2 due to no LAN play. These will be more of the same. As a PC gamer I only shake my head in dismay as crap game after crap game gets released. We will see no new jaw dropping graphics or physics/gameplay as long as developers are making cross platform titles. The last game that BLEW my mind was BF1942. That game took vehicle/foot combat to the next level in a fun way. I was addicted for 2 years.

At this point I'd be willing to shell out $100 for a fun exclusive next generation game designed exclusively for todays PC hardware. Devs/Publishers are stuck in a rutt. Its time for some to take advantage of the next gen hardware found on the PC.
Farting Bob 22nd April 2010, 16:48 Quote
COd is just too popular and profitable in the hands of a company too big and slow moving to make any sort of original game that offers something new. They could spend $100m on a game that revolves around doing paperwork for the army and it would make a profit right now. Call of Duty: Administration.
aron311 22nd April 2010, 16:55 Quote
Yawn, COD = Dead.
Krikkit 22nd April 2010, 17:02 Quote
Have to agree with the sentiment of this thread so far, that's a milked series for sure.

MW1 and 2 were decent efforts, even if 2 had some *serious* multiplayer issues the story and co-op were great fun. CoD5 was very disappointing, mostly because WW2 is pretty saturated by now.
Chombo 22nd April 2010, 18:04 Quote
I hope they rip the boxart from some EA Sports game and name it Call of Duty 2011: The Bigs. Or something.
frontline 22nd April 2010, 20:24 Quote
COD : Icelandic cod wars. 1973, Soap et al are part of an elite unit stationed aboard a British trawler infiltrating Icelandic waters. Combat is limited to ramming other vessels, cutting nets and harsh language.

The sequel could have the team returning to Iceland to sort out a major debt problem plus a rather large volcano that has grounded the AC-130....
Mongoose132 22nd April 2010, 20:24 Quote
Pfft, where's BF3 news :l
Thatguy119 22nd April 2010, 20:41 Quote
All I remember about COD games was that the second ww2 was the best and MW1 was the best online game I have ever played, then agian, I might have had a sheltered upbrining game wise. However, I aggree with the milking and the lack of variety after the first modern warfare.
13eightyfour 22nd April 2010, 21:19 Quote
While i think their business practices are shambolic at best, they are a business and until people stop buying the games they will still push them out at lightning speed,
DriftCarl 22nd April 2010, 22:34 Quote
woudlnt buy another cod game again, MW2 was my first and last. IW completly ruined that game for me. I havnt touched the game since BFBC2 went open beta.

the BFBC2 developers have actually listened to the community and have sorted out the problems that the game had. I am very happy with DICE. IW and activision should take note of what DICE has done with BFBC2. I will definatly buy BFBC3 if there is one in a few years time.
Sleepstreamer 23rd April 2010, 00:45 Quote
Wow, never saw that coming.
GiantStickMan 23rd April 2010, 01:26 Quote
Whilst I agree I'd rather see more original IP's than just constant re-hashes the problem you get there is that if you new franchise takes off (Assassins Creed for example), then it's doomed to a life of constant sequels too. Like someone said, game companies are a business and as long as people keep buying the sequels, they'll keep making them.
Vote with your wallet!
PureSilver 23rd April 2010, 04:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by gavomatic57
CoD2 was the last good one

You didn't like COD4? I thought that was a pretty excellent game. *Shrug*
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Originally Posted by Farting Bob
They could spend $100m on a game that revolves around doing paperwork for the army and it would make a profit right now. Call of Duty: Administration.

Voila.
veato 23rd April 2010, 08:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
resounding meh, the console gamers will likely lap it up but i just can't seem to care.

The system I chose to game on does not define me. I can tell a dud whether its on PC of console and given that I sold MW2 about 3 weeks after buying it will probably never buy another COD game again. Activision milking a franchise and pumping out game after game of the same tired stuff (something EA is also guilty of) is no more appealing to a console gamer than it is a PC gamer.

So drop the superiority complex. You sound like a ****
veato 23rd April 2010, 08:29 Quote
On topic I actually liked COD:MW and also the MP element of World at War (even a little bit more than MW actually). I suspect over the next 2 years we'll get MW3, World at War 2 and another 'different' title using the COD branding - RTS??

At least 2 out of the 3 will be shite.
Silver51 23rd April 2010, 08:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by veato
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
resounding meh, the console gamers will likely lap it up but i just can't seem to care.

The system I chose to game on does not define me...

Easy Tiger; statistically the latest CoD games will sell well in the console market. As any new CoD games will be ported to PC after being written for Xbox; from past experience, the desktop versions will be sub par.

:)
Dreaming 24th April 2010, 10:15 Quote
I enjoyed CoD4, WaW & MW2 and found all three were worth the money. I paid the same money for a lot of games that were a lot worse, so even though Activision is doing some shady stuff I think it's important to judge the games on their own merits and whether we personally find them fun. MW2 is a good example, everyone moaned about IW.net but in practice it actually worked pretty well (not perfectly, but it worked better than many games - BFBC2 server browser is always broken!! :<)

As for more, I hope each game will go by its individual merits I'm sure!
tron 25th April 2010, 16:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by GiantStickMan
Whilst I agree I'd rather see more original IP's than just constant re-hashes the problem you get there is that if you new franchise takes off (Assassins Creed for example), then it's doomed to a life of constant sequels too. Like someone said, game companies are a business and as long as people keep buying the sequels, they'll keep making them.
Vote with your wallet!

I agree with these companies: If they can continue to make money from constant sequels, then so be it. They are in a business to make money. However, I don't like the 'Police Academy' mentality of making 5,6,7 or 8 sequels until they completely bast***dize the series to the point of not being funny anymore.
GiantStickMan 26th April 2010, 09:54 Quote
Sequels are all well and good if they are quality or can bring something new to the formula. For example the long running Final Fantasy series, most of these games they've tried to do something new. So whilst they are up to their 13th game, I'd still be happy to see more.
My point is just that as soon as any new IP takes off, it's bound to get a bunch of sequels and spin-offs, so whilst people are compalining that a series is being 'milked', it was once an IP too! Sadly more often than not the quality tends to go down with each new installment. Not always the case but it has been steadily becoming the norm.
Culinia 26th April 2010, 12:00 Quote
As a PC gamer I will not get another Call of Duty game that has no dedicated server support and is significantly different to the previous. In my opinion MW2 was just a continuation of COD4 with more stuff, (imo crap) and a console port.
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