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iPhone 4G revealed?

iPhone 4G revealed?

The iPhone 4G was revealed accidentally after having been left in a bar by an Apple employee.

The first images and details of a new generation iPhone have appeared on the internet after Gizmodo claims to have come into possession of a new iPhone 4G.

The new iPhone model was apparently left in a Redwood City bar by Apple employee Gray Powell, who had had the 4G in a case which disguised it as an existing model. The misplaced iPhone 4G then found it's way into the hands of bloggers after being picked up by another drinker.

Analysis of the new iPhone 4G is still underway, but initial reports indicate that the phone will have a better camera, a new secondary microphone for noise cancellation and a 16 percent larger battery.

There are lots of cosmetic tweaks too. The volume control has been changed into two separate metallic buttons, the screen is slightly smaller but boasts a higher resolution and the back of the device is now flat.

The iPhone 4G is also about 3 grams heavier than the existing model 3G model.

Gizmodo has disassembled the device after using it for about a week and claims that it is almost definitely a genuine Apple 4G prototype.

For more information on the latest Apple devices you can check out our review of Apple's iPad as a games device, then let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Leitchy 20th April 2010, 11:18 Quote
Yaaawwwnnnn

Looks better though, zero innovation over 3/4 products and now shaped like a Zune.
perplekks45 20th April 2010, 11:25 Quote
If that's true then I like the new design...
mclean007 20th April 2010, 11:37 Quote
What's the odds Gray Powell is now an EX-Apple employee?!
scawp 20th April 2010, 11:39 Quote
Shouldn't they have handed this in? Round my end we have a word for that, its called STEALING!

"Gizmodo has disassembled the device after using it for about a week"
Admission of fraud followed by vandalism, Gizmodo you thieving c*nts.
general22 20th April 2010, 11:59 Quote
They really don't tell you much about the phone specs, it smacks of a publicity stunt by the apple fanboys at gizmodo.
NuTech 20th April 2010, 12:00 Quote
"Bit-tech.net - where the finger next leaves the pulse" :p
lacuna 20th April 2010, 12:01 Quote
It could have been planted of course
wuyanxu 20th April 2010, 12:04 Quote
it's the "revolutionary" new design where Blackberry and HTC has been using for ages.
BLC 20th April 2010, 12:13 Quote
Have been following this since it broke; although I missed the initial story by a few hours...

Originally it was found by someone in the bar, who did try to contact Apple when he realised that this was no ordinary 3GS (why he didn't leave it at the bar or report it to the police is beyond me though), but got no response from them. Engadget first got their hands on it, then Gizmodo bought it. According to Gizmodo, they didn't know how this phone was obtained when they paid an un-named source to get their hands on in (according to reports, this was between $5000 and $10,000). Under California law, they aren't guilty of handling stolen goods unless they knew it was stolen. They do have to make every effort to return it to the owner; however the guy that originally picked it up could face some interesting legal questions from local law or Apple... Apple are treating this as stolen, hence the letter to Gizmodo asking for it back (which they appear to be complying with).

There's absolutely no doubt that this genuine now, Apple's letter requesting it's return pretty much confirms it. Even though they use words like "device" and "unit", not "iPhone" or even "phone". At this point it can only be a pre-production prototype - the design is very likely to change. Although very little other hardware detail really exists, besides what can be seen on the device.

Whether you like Apple or loathe them, this is still big news. I really hope the production models look like this prototype. I've pretty much decided on an iPhone later this year, and that prototype looks much better than previous models (IMO, obviously).

Oh, and please don't even *start* the Apple vs. PC vs. Linux stuff. This debate was old when I was a kid: my Atari was better than your Amiga, my SNES was better than your Megadrive, etc, etc. If it's possible to flog a dead horse, then we're way past dead horses with this one - this dead horse is a skeleton by now.
scawp 20th April 2010, 12:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by BLC
Oh, and please don't even *start* the Apple vs. PC vs. Linux stuff. This debate was old when I was a kid: my Atari was better than your Amiga, my SNES was better than your Megadrive, etc, etc. If it's possible to flog a dead horse, then we're way past dead horses with this one - this dead horse is a skeleton by now.

Wrong the Amiga was better than the atari and the megadrive was better then the snes...ok no it wasn't...

(owner of 10 Megadrives and 3 SNES's)

P.S BLC thanks for the additional info.
BLC 20th April 2010, 12:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by scawp
P.S BLC thanks for the additional info.

For those interested in more...

Original Engadget article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/17/iphone-4g-is-this-it/

Original Gizmodo article: http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone

"How Apple lost it": http://gizmodo.com/5520438/how-apple-lost-the-next-iphone

Apple's "Give us our tech back" letter: http://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back
GreatOldOne 20th April 2010, 12:44 Quote
Which has all been posted since sunday in this thread, here:

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=186413

:)
Bauul 20th April 2010, 12:59 Quote
I wish people wouldn't call it a 4G iPhone when it's clearly an iPhone 3GS 1.1
pizan 20th April 2010, 13:19 Quote
I'm scared for that employee...stay away from 3rd floor windows.
eddtox 20th April 2010, 13:25 Quote
I smell publicity stunt.

Now that the iPad rumours have come true and the device is released, Apple needed a new way to stay in the spotlight so cue the "lost/stolen prototype", followed, doubtlessly, by months of hype and speculation (essentially free marketing) until the device is finally released to massive critical acclaim.

Yawn.
mclean007 20th April 2010, 13:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
I wish people wouldn't call it a 4G iPhone when it's clearly an iPhone 3GS 1.1
It *is* 4G as in 4th generation (count 'em - original, 3G, 3GS), much like they used to talk about 4G iPods etc. Granted it's a little confusing given it is also a phone (probably 3G, but maybe with WiMax and/or LTE (aka 3.9G)), but one thing for certain is that this is NOT an "iPhone 3GS 1.1". The front facing camera alone makes this more of an upgrade to its predecessor than either the 3G or the 3GS in my opinion, and that's before we get into the rumoured higher resolution screen, possible radical redesign (though I'm with BLC that I'd expect design changes), compatibility with LTE/WiMax, micro SIM etc. There are rumours of a completely new fabrication process being used to make the chassis out of ceramic. I also wonder if the flat back (assuming it stays in the final design) is to facilitate the secondary touch controller on the reverse that was rumoured a while back...
AshT 20th April 2010, 13:47 Quote
Apple don't do stunts like this so you can rule that out.

Can't wait to get one, my old 3G is great but I want more.
mclean007 20th April 2010, 14:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by AshT
Apple don't do stunts like this so you can rule that out.
Agreed - if it was anyone but Apple, I'd think it were a hoax, but Apple is infamously secretive about its forthcoming products. It has always preferred to blow people's socks off with an awesome debut, usually in the hands of Steve Jobs at an official launch.

Rumours always abound but Apple never comments and leaks are rare. It is in the enviable position of being able to say nothing and have the rumour mill work overtime regardless because of the magic Apple effect.
zimbloggy 20th April 2010, 15:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by eddtox
I smell publicity stunt.

Now that the iPad rumours have come true and the device is released, Apple needed a new way to stay in the spotlight so cue the "lost/stolen prototype", followed, doubtlessly, by months of hype and speculation (essentially free marketing) until the device is finally released to massive critical acclaim.

Yawn.

I agree... I think that the whole thing is just fishy. Why would they let an employee just walk around with the phone like that? And if it just a one time testing situation, how could they conveniently just lose it?
scawp 20th April 2010, 16:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by zimbloggy
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Originally Posted by eddtox
I smell publicity stunt.

Now that the iPad rumours have come true and the device is released, Apple needed a new way to stay in the spotlight so cue the "lost/stolen prototype", followed, doubtlessly, by months of hype and speculation (essentially free marketing) until the device is finally released to massive critical acclaim.

Yawn.

I agree... I think that the whole thing is just fishy. Why would they let an employee just walk around with the phone like that? And if it just a one time testing situation, how could they conveniently just lose it?

Too true, I've never left a phone in a bar, no matter how drunk I am and mine is just a bog standard nokia, how can you forget a secret prototype iphone??? Unless he was especially stupid.
crazyceo 20th April 2010, 17:23 Quote
Who cares?
BLC 20th April 2010, 17:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
Who cares?

Well, lots of people interested in technology, judging by the number of hits that Gizmodo have got... I think it's also pretty safe to say that Gizmodo would care about getting such a scoop.

And judging by the number of views that the earlier forum thread has, I'd say a lot of people on the B-T forums also care.
tribalman 20th April 2010, 17:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by mclean007
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauul
I wish people wouldn't call it a 4G iPhone when it's clearly an iPhone 3GS 1.1
It *is* 4G as in 4th generation (count 'em - original, 3G, 3GS), much like they used to talk about 4G iPods etc. Granted it's a little confusing given it is also a phone (probably 3G, but maybe with WiMax and/or LTE (aka 3.9G)), but one thing for certain is that this is NOT an "iPhone 3GS 1.1".

I think the 4G part if it is not referring to the modeling being 4th generation, but the phone signal. Here in America we are just starting to ramp up in the 4G GSM network. But sadly, whether a phone is on the CDMA or GSM network they are usually just referred as a 3g or 4g phone. It would be nice if they had to specify network.
Tulatin 20th April 2010, 18:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by scawp
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimbloggy
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Originally Posted by eddtox
I smell publicity stunt.

Now that the iPad rumours have come true and the device is released, Apple needed a new way to stay in the spotlight so cue the "lost/stolen prototype", followed, doubtlessly, by months of hype and speculation (essentially free marketing) until the device is finally released to massive critical acclaim.

Yawn.

I agree... I think that the whole thing is just fishy. Why would they let an employee just walk around with the phone like that? And if it just a one time testing situation, how could they conveniently just lose it?

Too true, I've never left a phone in a bar, no matter how drunk I am and mine is just a bog standard nokia, how can you forget a secret prototype iphone??? Unless he was especially stupid.

Hey, maybe he was blacking out, or needed to go and ralph. Apple's letter demanding the handset back is proof enough of this incremental "Improvement".
crazyceo 20th April 2010, 20:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by BLC
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyceo
Who cares?

Well, lots of people interested in technology, judging by the number of hits that Gizmodo have got... I think it's also pretty safe to say that Gizmodo would care about getting such a scoop.

And judging by the number of views that the earlier forum thread has, I'd say a lot of people on the B-T forums also care.

What? about the new expensive shiny thing from Crapple? What a waste of time and money!
M7ck 20th April 2010, 20:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
What? about the new expensive shiny thing from Crapple? What a waste of time and money!

http://openparachute.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/troll.jpg
BLC 20th April 2010, 20:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
What? about the new expensive shiny thing from Crapple? What a waste of time and money!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLC
This debate was old when I was a kid: my Atari was better than your Amiga, my SNES was better than your Megadrive, etc, etc. If it's possible to flog a dead horse, then we're way past dead horses with this one - this dead horse is a skeleton by now.

What about the new expensive shiny thing from ATi, Nvidia, AMD, Intel, etc? A good number of this site's members/visitors will probably replace their GPUs and CPUs more often than smartphones these days (with most reasonably-priced mobile contracts now being 2 years) - doesn't that make CPUs & GPUs a waste of time and money also?
Mongoose132 20th April 2010, 21:16 Quote
Stealing a Phone and dismantling it, of course it wasn't staged :p
javaman 21st April 2010, 00:37 Quote
Whats the chances it was left on purpose? After all, clever bit of marketing
thehippoz 21st April 2010, 01:38 Quote
I just saw that on the news.. apple left that there on purpose- and look at all the fans creating a free buzz!
[USRF]Obiwan 21st April 2010, 09:20 Quote
Come on! You must know by now that this is a 'Viral' injected by clever Apple marketing goofs.
Farfalho 21st April 2010, 10:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by mclean007
What's the odds Gray Powell is now an EX-Apple employee?!
+1
Although I also agree it must be a marketing stunt, I have my doubts it's completely legit
Ape 21st April 2010, 10:54 Quote
The new phone gets released roughly 2 months from now and you reckon Apple have revealed their hand now?! lol wtf.

You guys! lol
Stop it!
No really. Have a clue?

:|
mclean007 21st April 2010, 15:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by USRFObiwan
Come on! You must know by now that this is a 'Viral' injected by clever Apple marketing goofs.
Which they need to do why? A new iPhone model will always generate MASSES of interest around the world on release. Why dilute that with a sneak leak a few months ahead of time? This coverage is detracting from the iPad, which we shouldn't forget is what Apple is pushing hard right now. They'll also lose sales of the 3GS as people sandbag for the 4G. This leak is totally uncharacteristic for Apple, and really isn't good news for them. Either this was a genuine mistake, or a deliberate (but not Apple-sanctioned) leak by an Apple employee. Either way, I'm sure the guy is toast now.
crazyceo 21st April 2010, 21:06 Quote
Crapple fangirls feeling hurt by comments on a tech site?

Wow, never saw that reaction coming!
CowBlazed 21st April 2010, 21:45 Quote
Wait wat, the camera is facing a different direction now? This really IS news!

Seriously the only thing thats even worth noting thats changed in an iPhone is 3G capabilities and quite frankly, thats not even that big of a deal. And yet theres how many versions?
GiantStickMan 21st April 2010, 23:31 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLC
...According to Gizmodo, they didn't know how this phone was obtained when they paid an un-named source to get their hands on in (according to reports, this was between $5000 and $10,000). Under California law, they aren't guilty of handling stolen goods unless they knew it was stolen....

The interesting thing I find here is how could Gizmondo not believe that it was stolen, or obtained by less than legitimate means? Obviously it's hard to prove what they thought, but surely since Apple is so tight lipped about their new products before release Gizmondo would have known that it was dodgy for them to get their hands on this proto-type and then dismantle it.
GiantStickMan 21st April 2010, 23:36 Quote
Also that should read 'Gizmodo' above. My bad, I have no idea where the 'N' came from.
BLC 22nd April 2010, 07:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by crazyceo
Crapple fangirls feeling hurt by comments on a tech site?

Wow, never saw that reaction coming!

"YAH YAH! APPLE FANBOI HAHAHAHA!!!! APPLE IS TEH SUXX0RZ LOL!"

Wow, never saw that reaction coming.

Maybe you might try constructing a reasonable and well considered argument, rather than relying on insults and closed-mindedness? You might find that people start to take you seriously.

I'm really not going to dignify your comments with any other reply.
perplekks45 22nd April 2010, 07:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by GiantStickMan
The interesting thing I find here is how could Gizmondo not believe that it was stolen, or obtained by less than legitimate means? Obviously it's hard to prove what they thought, but surely since Apple is so tight lipped about their new products before release Gizmondo would have known that it was dodgy for them to get their hands on this proto-type and then dismantle it.
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Originally Posted by GiantStickMan
Also that should read 'Gizmodo' above. My bad, I have no idea where the 'N' came from.
Edit button. Bottom right. Please? Pretty please?
But you're new, you didn't know better.
crazyceo 22nd April 2010, 08:56 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLC
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyceo
Crapple fangirls feeling hurt by comments on a tech site?

Wow, never saw that reaction coming!

"YAH YAH! APPLE FANBOI HAHAHAHA!!!! APPLE IS TEH SUXX0RZ LOL!"

Wow, never saw that reaction coming.

Maybe you might try constructing a reasonable and well considered argument, rather than relying on insults and closed-mindedness? You might find that people start to take you seriously.

I'm really not going to dignify your comments with any other reply.

Your not going to dignify my comments with any other reply, by replying to my comments?

Rriiiggghhhtttt..............!
AshT 22nd April 2010, 09:23 Quote
Of course, one problem that rears its ugly head is that I now have hundreds of paid apps on my iPhone ... and soon I'll likely have a hundred apps on iPad and then there is the connectivity between my Mac and iPhone and iPad ... So even if another phone from another company arrived that was a lot more functional than the iPhone 4G I would likely not buy it due to losing access to all my apps. Not that any other company comes close at the moment anyway ...

Oh and the new design is pretty sexy tbh.
perplekks45 22nd April 2010, 13:26 Quote
Doesn't come close is not really true though, is it?
Android's making a hell of a lot of progress recently, I think. And guess what: I don't have to pay for a new OS. :p

But then again, it's not that expensive...
GiantStickMan 22nd April 2010, 13:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
Edit button. Bottom right. Please? Pretty please?
But you're new, you didn't know better.

Sorry but I made that post at work by using the 'Post Comment' at the bottom of the news article, not in the forum - the forums are blocked at work. So no, there is not an edit button.
I know how to use an edit button - please don't patronise me.
BLC 22nd April 2010, 17:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by AshT
Of course, one problem that rears its ugly head is that I now have hundreds of paid apps on my iPhone ... and soon I'll likely have a hundred apps on iPad and then there is the connectivity between my Mac and iPhone and iPad ... So even if another phone from another company arrived that was a lot more functional than the iPhone 4G I would likely not buy it due to losing access to all my apps. Not that any other company comes close at the moment anyway ...

Oh and the new design is pretty sexy tbh.

And so Apple's vision of getting customer "buy in" completely works - you're now almost irrevocably tied to their products :).
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Originally Posted by perplekks45
Doesn't come close is not really true though, is it?
Android's making a hell of a lot of progress recently, I think. And guess what: I don't have to pay for a new OS. :p

But then again, it's not that expensive...

As far as I knew - correct me if I'm wrong, because I only own an iPod touch - but upgrades for the iPhone OS are free for those with an iPhone on contract. Only iPod touch users have to pay to upgrade the OS, and even then it's only for major versions (such as version 3.1.2 to 4.0, not 3.1.1 to 3.1.3). I upgraded as soon as I bought my iPod; although the £5.99 cost of an OS upgrade seemed nothing at the time, compared to the £160-odd I'd just spent on the device!

Until Windows Phone 7 devices start to appear on the market (real production units, not just demo models) and the OS matures a little, Android is the only serious competition for the iPhone. HTC + Android seem to be making some serious in-roads at the moment. Though they're a very long way from seriously competing with Apple's brand power.
HandMadeAndroid 22nd April 2010, 17:39 Quote
This is BS direct marketing
perplekks45 22nd April 2010, 22:29 Quote
@ BLC:

Yes, I think you're kinda right there. I gladly paid the 5 or 6 quid for 3.0 because it really brought something new to the device [iPod Touch 2nd Gen].

Yet I decided against an iPhone when I got my latest phone contract in December and I'm happy I went with Android. Though I have to admit iPhones have their selling points, my girlfriend wouldn't want any other phone for example. It's just soooo easy to use. ;)
AshT 23rd April 2010, 07:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by BLC
And so Apple's vision of getting customer "buy in" completely works - you're now almost irrevocably tied to their products :)

... and that works fine for me as long as the devs keep pumping out quality apps ;)

Of course if the devs drop iPhone then I am buggered ... not likely though ;)
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