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Crysis 2 writer: "MW2's story was bad"

Crysis 2 writer: "MW2's story was bad"

Richard Morgan, writer for Crysis 2, has dismissed Modern Warfare 2's plotline as nonsensical and bad.

Richard Morgan, the scribe responsible for Crysis 2's script, has lashed out at Infinity Ward and Activision by saying that Modern Warfare 2's storyline was nonsensical and just plain bad.

"I thought Modern Warfare 2 was an immense disappointment," Morgan said in a comment to CVG, referring to both the plot and the gameplay.

"[The storyline] made no sense. It was totally implausible. It doesn't resolve. Basically, all the things that bad storytelling does. I just think they were way too impressed with themselves and that's always a danger. It's just unfortunate."

"What I thought when I played it was, 'Jesus guys, what have you been doing? You've not ramped anything up. The story is worse and the game doesn't really hang together, it's just a bunch of mission levels.'"

Morgan is especially critical of Modern Warfare 2's outrageous budget, saying that for all the money that was funnelled into the project nothing was really fixed. He claims he prefers games like Uncharted 2, which focused on fixing the flaws in the original game - and which didn't cost as much money.

Not everyone agrees though - Modern Warfare 2 won a fistful of awards, including a Writer's Guild of America nomination for it's storyline.

Check out our Crysis review (or our Crysis: Warhead review) for more info on either game, then let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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scawp 12th April 2010, 12:57 Quote
The storyline was indeed pants and rather short. Still at least it can run on my PC!
Narishma 12th April 2010, 12:58 Quote
Richard Morgan didn't write the story of the first Crysis game.
gavomatic57 12th April 2010, 13:03 Quote
But the story in Crysis was better (IMHO) than the MW2 one, plus it looked better and wasn't a lazy dumb console port.
I don't hold out much hope for Crysis 2 though, given that it is coming out on consoles.
kenco_uk 12th April 2010, 13:09 Quote
How the **** did MW2 win awards for its storyline?!
Unknownsock 12th April 2010, 13:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
How the **** did MW2 win awards for its storyline?!

Did you see the list on nominations? It was terrible! Also only developers who applied could win, most didnt apply i presume.

Personally i liked the story, abit far fetched but ahwell..
Few things that need wrapping up with the ending though.

And the original Crysis wasn't really great story wise was it?
dyzophoria 12th April 2010, 13:14 Quote
dunno, i didnt see MW2's that bad, it wasnt groundbreaking, but it wasnt that bad
CardJoe 12th April 2010, 13:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Unknownsock
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Originally Posted by kenco_uk
How the **** did MW2 win awards for its storyline?!

Did you see the list on nominations? It was terrible! Also only developers who applied could win, most didnt apply i presume.

Yeah, the award was only open to those games that had storys written by writers in the WGA...but the WGA doesn't generally recognise "Game Writer" as credit enough to warrant an induction, so it was kind of self-defeating really.

Me, I liked the plot. It was stupid. It was mindless. It made no sense at points. But, so what? It pulled you through the action and kept me entertained enough that I didn't start screaming about plotholes until I'd finished it, at which point I was past caring all that much. It was like True Lies - silly, but fitting with what it tries to be.
mrbens 12th April 2010, 13:25 Quote
Let's hope Crysis 2's story is up to scratch then!
Flibblebot 12th April 2010, 13:40 Quote
Well, given that Richard Morgan is a published author, it had better be :D
BlackMage23 12th April 2010, 13:46 Quote
The story better be good after this.

Still as Flibblebot pointed out, he has published work, so it does look promising. If the story does end up really good in Crisis 2 then maybe other developers will get decent story writers in on their teams
wuyanxu 12th April 2010, 13:57 Quote
well, at least MW2 has great set pieces, love how each mission will have at least one great view and great bit of gameplay. running across the roof tops, sniping to defend a point, EMP-ed city.

if Crysis 2 writer says this, they'll have to produce better story. if it's anything like Far Cry or Crysis 1, then im sorry, it's a fail.
Eggy 12th April 2010, 14:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
well, at least MW2 has great set pieces, love how each mission will have at least one great view and great bit of gameplay. running across the roof tops, sniping to defend a point, EMP-ed city.

if Crysis 2 writer says this, they'll have to produce better story. if it's anything like Far Cry or Crysis 1, then im sorry, it's a fail.

Crysis blows MW1 & 2 out of the water in terms of practically everything.
LeMaltor 12th April 2010, 14:09 Quote
The story was bad, and it was over (like MW) in far too quick a time. Loved crysis tho!
kingozzy666 12th April 2010, 14:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by Eggy
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
well, at least MW2 has great set pieces, love how each mission will have at least one great view and great bit of gameplay. running across the roof tops, sniping to defend a point, EMP-ed city.

if Crysis 2 writer says this, they'll have to produce better story. if it's anything like Far Cry or Crysis 1, then im sorry, it's a fail.

Crysis blows MW1 & 2 out of the water in terms of practically everything.

Yeh the story of Crysis was simple and effective and the gameplay was far superior. I recently did a third playthrough of Crysis and found places I hadn't seen before and managed to do every bit of the game using different tactics. You definitely can't do that in MW2.
kingred 12th April 2010, 14:09 Quote
NO YOUR STORYS BAD.


This is what this article amounts to.
aussiebear 12th April 2010, 14:11 Quote
Modern Warfare 2 follows what is regularly seen in Michael Bay films. Its like a mindless "sugar high" of action and explosions...That's it.

Games like Uncharted 2...Now that was a fun game with storyline! It's like Indiana Jones, but it utterly craps on "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull"!
ledbythereaper 12th April 2010, 14:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by gavomatic57
But the story in Crysis was better (IMHO) than the MW2 one, plus it looked better and wasn't a lazy dumb console port.
I don't hold out much hope for Crysis 2 though, given that it is coming out on consoles.

You'd think that, but from what I've gathered there are 2 teams working on it, 1 on the console release and another team on the PC release.
gavomatic57 12th April 2010, 14:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by ledbythereaper
You'd think that, but from what I've gathered there are 2 teams working on it, 1 on the console release and another team on the PC release.

Let me guess, the console team is the finest brains EA could muster...and the PC version is handled by Steve from the canteen. :)
Jezcentral 12th April 2010, 14:45 Quote
Wow, Richard Morgan is writing Crysis 2? This could be AMAZING!
mmorgue 12th April 2010, 14:51 Quote
I have to agree with him.

The story wasn't very good. It did seem like it was tryingt very, very hard to imitate a Hollywood film but because it was trying to hard, it didn't make it. IMO anywaze.

Games like the MGS series were far better at conveying story than MW2 was, though slightly a different genre.

However, I did get hacked off with MW2 within about 30 mins of playing. I hate, hate, hate endlessly respawning baddies. The sense of accomplishment is hitting a checkpoint, not clearing a zone or using some smart sniping to clear a path - it was endless baddies respawning.

Playing in that Brazillian slums level - sheer and utter kak! The AI (while not great in most games) was appauling. The baddies would just run at you, around the corner in waves. And no matter how many you killed, more and more just kept coming. To me, there was no sense of hiding, duck & cover. It was like a typical Quake frag fest.

Instead, BFBC2 was much better. True, the AI wasnt necessarily any smarter, but there was teh concept of duck & cover and good firefights. MW2 just seemed like run in and frag away.

Sorry.. driffting from the orginal post.
smc8788 12th April 2010, 14:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by ledbythereaper
You'd think that, but from what I've gathered there are 2 teams working on it, 1 on the console release and another team on the PC release.

I'm not too sure that's the case, but I know there's definitely separate teams working on the single player and multiplayer (with the multiplayer being developed, rather unfortunately, by the same people who made Haze on the PS3).
BentAnat 12th April 2010, 14:57 Quote
When's the last time an FPS's story was a selling point?

I can really think of two series that have anything near a storyline worth even mentioning: Bioshock and Half Life.

Every COD had a story line that could be summarized (in most cases WAS summarized) in two pages max.
MoH - it's WW2 - every history book has that summarized in a page.
Far Cry? Random BS. Same with FC2.

Honestly, I personally don't give a hoot about storylines in FPS games. i play them because they feature the same entertainment I get out of Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down, etc. Not because they have the intellectually challenging morality story a la Full Metal Jacket.

Really - the Statement that gets made there screams "Our game is sh**, but we have a storyline... " and "the only way we can compare favourably against MW2 is if we boast a storyline"... i.e. not particularly encouraging at worst, and a completely pointless c***show at best.
Redbeaver 12th April 2010, 15:00 Quote
MW2's storyline is good. its just not connecting. at all.

the have-no-idea-whats-goin-on-but-this-is-intense kinda good.
cjoyce1980 12th April 2010, 15:06 Quote
the story wasn't bad, just not as good as MW1.

it felt rather disjointed in places and just didn't flow very well...... I mean, like what happened before "No Russian!"

You were just thrown in at the deep end with that level and with no precursor to what lead before, other than the spoken dialogue by shepherd on the loading screen. it was just below standard and it felt like there were levels or part of the whole story that was missing.
Lightning98 12th April 2010, 16:27 Quote
The only thing Crysis 1 had going for it was great graphics (which in book has been beaten by mods for HL2 and STALKER). The storyline was there, but it really didn't make any sense whatsoever.

As for MW2... i enjoyed the COD1,2... mainly because they had a normal SP... but these last few episodes mainly focus on MP which i'm not interested in so basically MW2 was a huge FAIL for me... not just story wise ... i mean what is there to call a "story" when i finished it in a little over 3-4 hours.

I don't have big expectation for Crysis 2, except the fact that we'll probably be benchmarking radeon's 7870 or GeForce 780 cards on it and still do @ about 30FPS.
johnniecache 12th April 2010, 17:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jezcentral
Wow, Richard Morgan is writing Crysis 2? This could be AMAZING!

This will be amazing forsure if he writes the game anything like he wrote Thirteen/Black Man, Takeshi Kovacs novels.
snowy2 12th April 2010, 18:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by johnniecache
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Originally Posted by Jezcentral
Wow, Richard Morgan is writing Crysis 2? This could be AMAZING!

This will be amazing forsure if he writes the game anything like he wrote Thirteen/Black Man, Takeshi Kovacs novels.

Better still, CryTek should buy the game licence for the Takeshi Kovacs novels, and using the latest Cry engine and his script writing, create a futuristic deus-exy rpg where the player can be needle casted across the universe as a mercenary, choose a customisable biotech sleeve, fight with/against illegal clones of him/herself, remove cores as a mini game, get involved in a slow-burning political rebellion and play both sides etc.
Project_Nightmare 12th April 2010, 18:24 Quote
Funnel enough money to marketing and a good PR team and they can sell any overrated crap. With all of the anticipation, it's bound to win many awards.

It sucks but its true...
snowy2 12th April 2010, 18:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Project_Nightmare
Funnel enough money to marketing and a good PR team and they can sell any overrated crap. With all of the anticipation, it's bound to win many awards.

It sucks but its true...

Heh so cynical ;) Don't blame the player, blame the game ;D
Warrior24_7 12th April 2010, 20:08 Quote
This is like 3 day old news, and it's the competition. What do you expect them to say?
DarkLord7854 12th April 2010, 20:38 Quote
I didn't mind the MW2 story, right up until the missile somehow destroyed the space station after exploding somewhere in the atmosphere.. that was just.. retarded.
johnniecache 12th April 2010, 22:14 Quote
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Originally Posted by snowy2
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Originally Posted by johnniecache
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Originally Posted by Jezcentral
Wow, Richard Morgan is writing Crysis 2? This could be AMAZING!

This will be amazing forsure if he writes the game anything like he wrote Thirteen/Black Man, Takeshi Kovacs novels.

Better still, CryTek should buy the game licence for the Takeshi Kovacs novels, and using the latest Cry engine and his script writing, create a futuristic deus-exy rpg where the player can be needle casted across the universe as a mercenary, choose a customisable biotech sleeve, fight with/against illegal clones of him/herself, remove cores as a mini game, get involved in a slow-burning political rebellion and play both sides etc.

I woud buy it would the most epic game ever. Crysis 2 will be the first game I'll play for just the story . The only thing better would be to have William Gibson/Neal Stephenson/Joel Shepherd actually write Cyberpunk games stories too.
johnnyboy700 12th April 2010, 22:41 Quote
Regarding the storyline for MW2, the thing that bothered me the most was the idea that there could be a full scale invasion of mainland USA, complete with armour, helicoptor guships (the wrong ones I believe, I seem to recall the Mi 28 was dropped in favour of the Ka 50) and all the necessary supplies to support the invasion and they manage to surprise everyone just by blocking the satellite feeds.

I still enjoyed the game, it just didn't make a lick of sense other that in its own little world.
cybergenics 12th April 2010, 22:49 Quote
MW2 is full of Anti American sentiment. The story looks like it was written just to annoy them. When I started reading threads about the game before I bought it, loads of Americans were complaining about it. Having said that, they do have a habit of re-writing history in the war films so maybe this was someone's idea of a cheeky comeback.

http://www.overthinkingit.com/2010/03/25/anti-americanism-modern-warfare-2/
vegettoxp 12th April 2010, 22:56 Quote
Well I don't agree with him. I would like to see How Crysis 2 is gona do in sales compared. He has nothing better to do then pick on MW2. Heck the news Maps they just release are doing hella good.

Richard Morgan Keep your Mouth Shut and Work on Crysis 2. Nobody not me don't need to here your BS about MW2. This is just my opinion. I am pretty sure some of you guys will disagree.
DBA 13th April 2010, 00:36 Quote
The story of MW2 was indeed terrible. I used to think the story of Crysis was bad, but at least it didn't confuse like MW2. I mean, one time you are fighting in some snowy mountains, the next time you are in some south american city and then in NY, and what was my name again? Soap or Price or that other dude?
Gunsmith 13th April 2010, 01:06 Quote
The plot to Crysis was a throwback to the late 80's early 90's sci-fi monster B-films, a personal softspot for me and a few years before the time MW2 fans were born.

Go watch Deep Star Six, Fortress, Sphere, hell even Robocop was considered a B-film despite its suprising success, and the Crysis story will start to make sense and you'll realise just how good it actually is.

At the Crysis 2 NYC launch party, Richard Morgan was interviewed by giant bomb and asked how important a plot was in a game, as a writer and a gamer his respose was utter gold and absolutly spot on, by catering to the largest possible audience (to gain sales) you've also go to cater to the lowest common denominator as vegettoxp proved so wonderfully a few posts back, the interview was so spot on that I was actually applauding him by the end.

go watch it yourself over at giantbomb (I would post url but site is borked atm)

If you want an excellent cold war story then you owe it to yourself to play World In Conflict.

edit: after some digging he also thinks Halo is bullshit both as a game and a story, If his opinion is also reflected by Crytek then omg we are in for a good game and i cant wait to watch the faces of "gamers" as they get a rude wake up call on just how bad thier "games" have been the past 10 years. ;)
ledbythereaper 13th April 2010, 02:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by smc8788
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Originally Posted by ledbythereaper
You'd think that, but from what I've gathered there are 2 teams working on it, 1 on the console release and another team on the PC release.

I'm not too sure that's the case, but I know there's definitely separate teams working on the single player and multiplayer (with the multiplayer being developed, rather unfortunately, by the same people who made Haze on the PS3).

In this case, Gunsmith may start crying.
Cosmot 13th April 2010, 03:07 Quote
I recongize the story was too Lengthy and have not Innovation, it even less than MW1.
chumbucket843 13th April 2010, 03:26 Quote
i agree with this man. its a joke to see that nothing much changed from mw1 to mw2 yet they spent loads of money on something. i dont think it was on the game.
gavomatic57 13th April 2010, 09:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by chumbucket843
i agree with this man. its a joke to see that nothing much changed from mw1 to mw2 yet they spent loads of money on something. i dont think it was on the game.

Marketing and salaries - that's about it.
1ad7 13th April 2010, 09:42 Quote
I liked the crysis story, it wasn't bad and I thought it was great during... after I went meh but by then I had already had a blast.
ambrose 13th April 2010, 10:30 Quote
mw2 OH MY GOD WHAT A LOAD OF SHPWEAAAAAGH >:( "ok so now the guy running the black ops kills all the agents to keep the war going" LOL "oh yeah so your an undercover agent trying to stop the terroris.. oh wait that would be predictable.... ummm ok so your an undercover agent participation in massive public slaughter :D" im sure iw just sabotaged this game purposefully to get sweet revenge on activision for being pricks to them. there is simply no logical reason for the quality of that game.
ambrose 13th April 2010, 10:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
I didn't mind the MW2 story, right up until the missile somehow destroyed the space station after exploding somewhere in the atmosphere.. that was just.. retarded.

it was goddam awesome! i seriosly cracked up!!!
ambrose 13th April 2010, 10:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by ledbythereaper
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Originally Posted by gavomatic57
But the story in Crysis was better (IMHO) than the MW2 one, plus it looked better and wasn't a lazy dumb console port.
I don't hold out much hope for Crysis 2 though, given that it is coming out on consoles.

You'd think that, but from what I've gathered there are 2 teams working on it, 1 on the console release and another team on the PC release.

you sure there was a "team" working on the multiplayer side of it? i assumed was the producers retarded dalmation cos its pretty darn well unplayable D:<
ambrose 13th April 2010, 10:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Eggy
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
well, at least MW2 has great set pieces, love how each mission will have at least one great view and great bit of gameplay. running across the roof tops, sniping to defend a point, EMP-ed city.

if Crysis 2 writer says this, they'll have to produce better story. if it's anything like Far Cry or Crysis 1, then im sorry, it's a fail.

Crysis blows MW1 & 2 out of the water in terms of practically everything.

multiplater in mw1 is the most fun that can be had in a fps online. (provided you get a good serverofcourse)
wuyanxu 13th April 2010, 10:48 Quote
Crysis 1 and Warhead is like Avatar the film, great visuals with okay story, but the story can be pretty much guessed by looking at the trailers.
phuzz 13th April 2010, 10:53 Quote
The story in MW2 wasn't bad
It was bloody awful.

I even 'borrowed' a copy of MW1 to see if that would make the plot make any sense.
Nope.

The multiplayer seems to be full of 14 yo idiots (who can headshot me from half a map away), so I'll pass on that too please.
b5k 13th April 2010, 19:17 Quote
Neither Crysis nor Modern Warfare (EITHER OF THEM) are good stories for games. Nothing new or original, same trash recycled.
wuyanxu 13th April 2010, 22:04 Quote
Crysis 2 Lead Writer: 'Halo Is Bullshit'

is he going to slay every popular game out there? next up, Gears of War, or even CnC?
Gunsmith 13th April 2010, 22:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
Crysis 2 Lead Writer: 'Halo Is Bullshit'

is he going to slay every popular game out there? next up, Gears of War, or even CnC?

and hes absolutly right, just because its popular doesnt mean its good.
vegettoxp 14th April 2010, 04:32 Quote
Well we will see how Crysis 2 will do. It always a good idea to bash a Good game to make room for your own. Bull****!
Burnin' 14th April 2010, 05:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
Crysis 2 Lead Writer: 'Halo Is Bullshit'

is he going to slay every popular game out there? next up, Gears of War, or even CnC?

but dear wuyanxu, Halo IS bullshit (all of them)! So are Gears of Wars (both) & MW2....
wuyanxu 14th April 2010, 12:10 Quote
i never said Halo's storyline is good, it's just he seems to be bashing every popular title out there.
Gunsmith 14th April 2010, 13:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
i never said Halo's storyline is good, it's just he seems to be bashing every popular title out there.

which goes to show how ignorant the masses are :)
gavomatic57 14th April 2010, 14:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
Crysis 2 Lead Writer: 'Halo Is Bullshit'

is he going to slay every popular game out there? next up, Gears of War, or even CnC?

Well, Gears is cack - a jumped-up game of hide & seek that bored the living daylights out of me. If he criticises that, good for him.
thehippoz 14th April 2010, 16:51 Quote
games going from console ported over- seems the trend anyway last couple of years

look at the last wolfenstein
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