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DICE: We don't want to charge for BC2 maps

DICE: We don't want to charge for BC2 maps

DICE doesn't want to charge players for Bad Company 2 maps, but will have premium content in the future.

Despite the fact that Electronic Arts and Battlefield developer DICE have already said that there will probably be premium content released for Bad Company 2 in the future, DICE remains adamant that it doesn't want to charge players for maps.

Speaking to Xbox World 360 (via Eurogamer), DICE producer Patrick Bach said that the developer was adamant in that position when dealing with EA and that the attitude was critical to securing a fanbase.

"We don't ever want to charge for our maps and insisted to EA that this attitude was crucial when it came to keeping our community happy and playing together," said Bach.

That said, it has already been hinted that Bad Company 2 will get some premium content. EA Eric Brown formerly told fans to expect "multiple opportunities to spend five, 10 or 15 dollars on additional content in the next six months or so".

It's also worth noting that EA has a policy of supporting all key titles with DLC, free and premium, after release as part of it's anti-piracy plan.

You can check out our Bad Company 2 review and video for more information on the game.

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do_it_anyway 1st April 2010, 12:01 Quote
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"We don't ever want to charge for our maps and insisted to EA that this attitude was crucial......."

This will no doubt come as no surprise to most, but it does seem to confirm that DICE had to argue with EA, and that EA wanted to charge for pretty much everything.
GFC 1st April 2010, 12:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by do_it_anyway
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"We don't ever want to charge for our maps and insisted to EA that this attitude was crucial......."

This will no doubt come as no surprise to most, but it does seem to confirm that DICE had to argue with EA, and that EA wanted to charge for pretty much everything.
EA wants to charge? For stuff that should be free? No way!!! ^^
Jamie 1st April 2010, 12:16 Quote
I wish the maps for MW2 were free!
wuyanxu 1st April 2010, 12:16 Quote
at least during the argument with EA, DICE's executives didn't get escorted off the premises.
liratheal 1st April 2010, 12:31 Quote
At least DICE are being community friendly in that respect.

More importantly, it shows that EA is willing to listen to his dev houses - Something that ought to bode well for their other dev houses that want to avoid the "charge for everything" syndrome.
bahgger 1st April 2010, 13:03 Quote
I hope Valve will never get into a similar position with EA as DICE.
pizan 1st April 2010, 13:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by bahgger
I hope Valve will never get into a similar position with EA as DICE.
They won't. Valve for the most part publishes their own games through Steam and they could drop EA for another publisher if they wanted.
Xir 1st April 2010, 14:20 Quote
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"We don't ever want to charge for our maps and insisted to EA that this attitude was crucial when it came to keeping our community happy and playing together,"

He may not want it, that doesn't mean they never will :D
Walked into the industry as a newborn yesterday, right?
DraigUK 1st April 2010, 14:45 Quote
Great game (far better than MW) and the support they are giving to the community gets PC gaming back on track - at long last. Thankyou DICE for a great game and just as important, not following the MW disaster and sticking to the PC gamers expectations for gaming ~ it will help keep the game running for many more years to come.
B1GBUD 1st April 2010, 15:11 Quote
Hugs Battlefield Bad Company 2..... now please please please get the Friends list working and I'll be as happy as a pig in sh*t
wafflesomd 1st April 2010, 15:47 Quote
Still not fixed to the point where I consider it out of beta.
knuck 1st April 2010, 15:55 Quote
I miss the UT days when you could play for hours without ever playing the same map... I still have over 400 maps in my ut99 folder and about 150 in my ut2k4 folder

Those were the real days of online gaming
Veles 1st April 2010, 16:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by pizan
They won't. Valve for the most part publishes their own games through Steam and they could drop EA for another publisher if they wanted.

Plus all updates they do they publish themselves via steam. So EA only do the printed disks and that's it, all the cost for DLC for valves games are on their own heads so any publishers don't get a say.

Although L4D2....>.>
Chombo 1st April 2010, 18:33 Quote
IMHO its important to keep the maps free, otherwise you divide the community. The new maps would have lower populations and wouldn't be as fun.
Sloth 1st April 2010, 19:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ghys
I miss the UT days when you could play for hours without ever playing the same map... I still have over 400 maps in my ut99 folder and about 150 in my ut2k4 folder

Those were the real days of online gaming
I don't even want to think about my CS:S map folder... surf maps alone must be pushing 150.

But it's refreshing to hear that new maps will be free, and premium content isn't exactly surprising. Just so long as they release decent maps, most of the release ones are awesome but some have a few problems that come to mind. Small oversights that I would prefer to not see in a professionally developed map.
DarkLord7854 1st April 2010, 20:05 Quote
As long as maps are free, I'm happy
LogicalReason 1st April 2010, 21:21 Quote
I am shocked to see how many ppl are complaining about having to pay for new maps. Why do you think it should be free? Ppl develop these maps and companies have to pay those ppl. Just because you bought the game doesn't make you entitled to new maps. Go earn a few bucks for the new maps... geez.

EA and Dice.... Ask for a fair price. Don't give it away free or you will just make crappy maps. These kids should be mowing more lawns to make the $10 - $15 for the map expansion anyway.
Blackie Chan 1st April 2010, 22:45 Quote
Hooray someone is at bat for their fans.
Vash-HT 1st April 2010, 22:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by LogicalReason
I am shocked to see how many ppl are complaining about having to pay for new maps. Why do you think it should be free? Ppl develop these maps and companies have to pay those ppl. Just because you bought the game doesn't make you entitled to new maps. Go earn a few bucks for the new maps... geez.

EA and Dice.... Ask for a fair price. Don't give it away free or you will just make crappy maps. These kids should be mowing more lawns to make the $10 - $15 for the map expansion anyway.

I'm pretty shocked to see someone complain about getting free maps lol.

They gave their reason for it, it keeps the community happy and together. They know that word of mouth gets around, keeping the games community strong will sell more games in the long run. Not only that but you have to take into account that paying for map packs is still a pretty new concept, people have memories and remember that devs used to release stuff like this for free. Simply charging more money for everything you do doesn't always net you a higher profit, pleasing your customers is really important though.

In the end though it comes down to one thing, it's DICE's game, if they want to make maps for it for free then it's their choice. They will not be "crappy maps" just because they are free, I'm not sure why you think that, there are tons of examples of great free maps out there for many different games. Throwing money at something does not always give you a great product, money does not necessarily make people work harder, or more importantly in this case work more creatively.
Anfield 1st April 2010, 23:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by LogicalReason
I am shocked to see how many ppl are complaining about having to pay for new maps. Why do you think it should be free?

Probably because we got them for free for years, made by the community using the included editors and played them on dedicated servers... oh wait, its 2010.
Elton 2nd April 2010, 02:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by LogicalReason
I am shocked to see how many ppl are complaining about having to pay for new maps. Why do you think it should be free? Ppl develop these maps and companies have to pay those ppl. Just because you bought the game doesn't make you entitled to new maps. Go earn a few bucks for the new maps... geez.

EA and Dice.... Ask for a fair price. Don't give it away free or you will just make crappy maps. These kids should be mowing more lawns to make the $10 - $15 for the map expansion anyway.

Look at it from the perspective of the past, free maps have been around forever. In fact nowadays modding isn't even that widespread, which is a shame tbh.

Look back at great multi-player games like CSS, or UT2004, all the plethora of mods and maps.

Even BF2 had at least a few maps, and I really wish user-created content was more widespread. Those were the times.
Sloth 2nd April 2010, 19:59 Quote
When it comes to why additional content shouldn't be charged for I like to think of Valve. They see strong sales in theirs games long after release because new interest is sparked in their games and people who didn't previously buy are prompted to buy now. CS:S is still selling for $19.99 on Steam and people still buy it! Team Fortress 2 has debatably doubled in content compared to release due to additions from the developer (Valve) and content from the community. And it isn't just about knowing you'll get free goodies, it's also about knowing that you're buying from a company who truly appreciates your business and respects you as a consumer. It's this aspect of DICE which lets me see past the fact that Battlefield games are published by the dreaded EA and it's this aspect which makes me keen to buy DICE-made games in the future.
bogie170 2nd April 2010, 20:15 Quote
I wonder if they are going to charge for Joystick support for us PC Gamers?
7ony 2nd April 2010, 21:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ghys
I miss the UT days when you could play for hours without ever playing the same map... I still have over 400 maps in my ut99 folder and about 150 in my ut2k4 folder

Those were the real days of online gaming



Same here. As much as i enjoyed Cod4 and now BFBC2 they still dont stand up to the UT days. Played ut2k4 for over 3 years solid until the dissapointing UT3 arrived. The mod community for the UT games is probably the best around.
boiled_elephant 3rd April 2010, 04:24 Quote
DICE and EA remind me of those couples, the ones everyone's known at some point, who argue all the time and everyone takes one look at them and says, "how the hell did they ever get together?"
Bonzo45 4th April 2010, 19:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by bogie170
I wonder if they are going to charge for Joystick support for us PC Gamers?

Yeah, I wouldn't mind them adding support for a Game Pad either. Then I could play when I can't be bothered to sit up my desk...
Mumps 6th April 2010, 10:05 Quote
Now we only need they release a developer tool and let the created maps install in the "dedicated" servers.
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