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Bethesda loses Fallout lawsuit to Interplay

Bethesda loses Fallout lawsuit to Interplay

Bethesda has failed to get an injunction against Interplay regarding the sale of older Fallout titles.

Bethesda Softworks has failed in an attempt to get a court injunction that would stop Interplay from selling the old Fallout games.

Interplay were the original publishers of the Fallout series until Bethesda bought the rights and released Fallout 3. Bethesda licensed some of the rights back to Interplay under certain conditions and allowed Interplay to work on a Fallout MMO providing certain deadlines could be met.

The two companies have fallen out over the sale of the older games in the series, with Bethesda saying that Interplay doesn't have the relevant rights any longer. Bethesda specifically objects to Interplay selling packs of the older Fallout games under titles such as Fallout Saga, Fallout Trilogy and Fallout Collection.

According to leaked court documents hosted at a Fallout fansite though, a US judge has supported Interplay in the dispute and clarified that Interplay is free to sell those pack.

It's also been revealed that Interplay is continuing to work on the Fallout MMO, currently known under the name of Project V13.

Interplay and Bethesda haven't yet commented on the issue officially and it's unclear if this legal dispute at all affects the ongoing development of Project V13.

Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Bauul 14th December 2009, 13:39 Quote
Huh. I sided with Beth on this one: you don't sell the rights to your product to someone else, and then carry on selling the products yourselves.

I wonder why the judge sided with Interplay, unless there's more to it than we know.
mi1ez 14th December 2009, 13:46 Quote
AFAIK... They sold the rights to the title and background plot etc. but not the existing games.
Tokukachi 14th December 2009, 15:38 Quote
maybe noe they can just get on with making games? Everyone is far to litigation happy these days...
Matticus 14th December 2009, 18:10 Quote
I wonder how many sales the earlier games still get these days? I can imagine fallout 3 is a much higher earner, unless Bethesda are looking to do an ultra pack or something.

I will give you a real life example (from last year) of how I think people approach the older games after playing fallout 3.

My friend: "Oh man I am loving fallout 3 at the minute? You?"
Me: "Yep it really is great, running around for hours can be a bit boring though"
My friend: "Yeah that's true, as this is fallout THREE, I assume there were 2 others?"
Me: "Yeah, well more, but 2 main ones, the others were sort of spin offs and stuff"
My friend: "Are they the same sort of game?"
Me: "An RPG? yeah sure, obviously they are older so not the same 3D action style, but an RPG. With turn based combat"
My friend: "Oh right, sounds good then. So when were they made?"
Me: "I think like late 1990s, before 2000 that's for sure, I don't know exactly"
My friend: "OH! Maybe I will give them a miss then"
Me: "What?"
Yemerich 14th December 2009, 18:19 Quote
Good! Hopefully Bethesda will loose it's right to butcher... errrr... make future FOs
/me crossing fingers and praying
Googoo 14th December 2009, 23:15 Quote
It's laughable to watch people vehemently hate Fallout 3 because it revived a dead series that was in the hands of a bankrupt publisher. Even more amusing is the fact that most of the original team are now working on New Vegas for Beth. So, I'm not entirely sure why someone would want Interplay, who couldn't even fund the MMORPG, to retain the rights? Black Isle's is no more, and the original CEO of interplay has long been gone.
Vash-HT 15th December 2009, 06:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by Googoo
It's laughable to watch people vehemently hate Fallout 3 because it revived a dead series that was in the hands of a bankrupt publisher. Even more amusing is the fact that most of the original team are now working on New Vegas for Beth. So, I'm not entirely sure why someone would want Interplay, who couldn't even fund the MMORPG, to retain the rights? Black Isle's is no more, and the original CEO of interplay has long been gone.

Maybe some people think FO3 is awful compared to the first 2 games, and shouldn't be mentioned the way that brotherhood of steel shouldn't be. OK, maybe that's going a little far, but it's their opinion that FO3 isn't anywhere near the quality of the first 2, and wasn't worth making. I somewhat agree with it, sometimes letting a series die is better than making a crappy sequel, obviously popular opinion would disagree with me on FO3, but as an earlier poster pointed out, a lot of FO3 fanboys have never touched the first 2 games and never intend to.

Just because Black Isle isn't around doesn't mean a company HAS to take over the series. Sometimes the chain of sequels just has to end.

EDIT: Just wanted to add something relevant to the article, I was under the impression Bethesda bought the rights to the fallout universe and the ability to produce Fallout games, I wouldn't think this would have any bearing on games already made.
hexx 15th December 2009, 11:32 Quote
FALLOUT 3 IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME IT JUST PARASITES ON ITS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's rubbish, utter rubbish.

yes, i've got the special edition and yes i did play it - for 4 hours, sold the game and kept the box :) and installed back fallout 2 + hi-res patch. fallout 3 is not a fallout game, it's missing everything what fallout was and is about
Javerh 15th December 2009, 14:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by hexx
FALLOUT 3 IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME IT JUST PARASITES ON ITS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's rubbish, utter rubbish.

yes, i've got the special edition and yes i did play it - for 4 hours, sold the game and kept the box :) and installed back fallout 2 + hi-res patch. fallout 3 is not a fallout game, it's missing everything what fallout was and is about

Post-apocalyptic world... CHECK!
Quirky humour... CHECK!
Dogmeat... CHECK!
Mean mutants... CHECK!
Bloody Mess... CHECK!
Pip Boy... CHECK!
3rd person view... CHECK!

What am I missing here?
hexx 15th December 2009, 15:26 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javerh
Quote:
Originally Posted by hexx
FALLOUT 3 IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME IT JUST PARASITES ON ITS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's rubbish, utter rubbish.

yes, i've got the special edition and yes i did play it - for 4 hours, sold the game and kept the box :) and installed back fallout 2 + hi-res patch. fallout 3 is not a fallout game, it's missing everything what fallout was and is about

Post-apocalyptic world... CHECK!
Quirky humour... CHECK!
Dogmeat... CHECK!
Mean mutants... CHECK!
Bloody Mess... CHECK!
Pip Boy... CHECK!
3rd person view... CHECK!

What am I missing here?

Atmosphere = gone
Humor = gone
Story = gone
Perks and the way the work = gone
leveling system = rubbish, the same like in oblivion

What are you missing there?....hmm...simple answer - all of what fallout was and is about ;)
CowBlazed 15th December 2009, 18:49 Quote
I loved the first 2 Fallouts and think Bethesda did a good job with the third. Can't even compare them really ones a shooter RPG, and ones an isometricaly viewed adventure RPG from 10 years ago. But the games stand on their own seperately from each other.
PandaMonster 17th December 2009, 04:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by hexx
Quote:
Originally Posted by Javerh
Quote:
Originally Posted by hexx
FALLOUT 3 IS NOT A FALLOUT GAME IT JUST PARASITES ON ITS NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's rubbish, utter rubbish.

yes, i've got the special edition and yes i did play it - for 4 hours, sold the game and kept the box :) and installed back fallout 2 + hi-res patch. fallout 3 is not a fallout game, it's missing everything what fallout was and is about

Post-apocalyptic world... CHECK!
Quirky humour... CHECK!
Dogmeat... CHECK!
Mean mutants... CHECK!
Bloody Mess... CHECK!
Pip Boy... CHECK!
3rd person view... CHECK!

What am I missing here?

Atmosphere = gone
Humor = gone
Story = gone
Perks and the way the work = gone
leveling system = rubbish, the same like in oblivion

What are you missing there?....hmm...simple answer - all of what fallout was and is about ;)

AMEN brother.
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