No Doubt sues Activision over Band Hero

Pop music group No Doubt is suing Activision over the fact that the band's likenesses can be used for other songs.

Pop music group No Doubt has announced that it is suing Activision for a break of contract in recent rhythm game, Band Hero. The group is claiming that it never agreed for avatars in it's likeness to perform songs by other bands.

The legal dispute is the same as the one bought to Activision by Courtney Love over Kurt Cobain's avatar in Guitar Hero 5, that it was never agreed that the likeness could be used to perform songs by other groups.

"Without the band's knowledge or approval, Activision turned the group into virtual karaoke players by having them perform over 60 additional songs by other musical groups," said the band's lawyers in a statement, according to Gamasutra.

No Doubt says it has already requested that Activision change the use of their avatars in the game, but that Activision has refused to do so on the grounds that it would be too expensive to bother.

"Activision has a written agreement to use No Doubt in Band Hero - an agreement signed by No Doubt after extensive negotiations with its representatives," goes the official Activision statement.

"As a result, Activision believes it is within its legal rights with respect to the use and portrayal of the band members in the game and that this lawsuit is without merit."

Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
Quote mjm25 5th November 2009, 14:18
all publicity...
Quote mi1ez 5th November 2009, 14:25
I don't think the contract explicitly covers bands covering others' songs, but it should be blindingly obvious that that's what Activision intends.
Quote Floyd 5th November 2009, 14:27
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Originally Posted by mjm25
all publicity...

Yup. When was the last time you heard No Doubt was putting out anything new lol
Quote MaverickWill 5th November 2009, 14:36
So, No Doubt and Courtney Love have BOTH signed themselves up to a project that they obviously had no idea about... One play of the game, and they'd have realised that you pick the character, then pick the song. Not you pick the characters, then get locked into playing 2 songs.

I don't see Clive Winston complaining that he's only allowed to play songs by the Donnas. Funnily enough, I don't remember Bret Michaels complaining about GH3 either! Get a wad of cash, get in a video game, see record sales boosted as a result!

Not flippin' rocket science...
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 5th November 2009, 14:38
When in doubt...
Quote Cerberus90 5th November 2009, 14:54
I've never even heard of No Doubt.
Quote mjm25 5th November 2009, 14:57
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]When in doubt...

flat out.
Quote Abhorsen 5th November 2009, 14:57
Cerberus, which rock have you been hiding under?
Quote Atomic 5th November 2009, 15:54
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Originally Posted by Cerberus90
I've never even heard of No Doubt.
You might have heard of the (rather good looking) lead singer? Gwen Stefani?
Quote Omegahunter 5th November 2009, 15:59
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Originally Posted by Abhorsen
Cerberus, which rock have you been hiding under?

Don't know, but I wish I was hiding under is too, as I have heard of No Doubt :(
Quote B1GBUD 5th November 2009, 16:00
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Originally Posted by Cerberus90
I've never even heard of No Doubt.

Don't Speak

Probably their most famous work
Quote pizan 5th November 2009, 16:32
Hey I would say probably most people under 20 don't know them . They probably only know Gwen Stefani as a solo artist. They are a 90's band, right? (maybe a little into 2000's)
Quote Pieface 5th November 2009, 16:47
Pizan, I'm 18 and I've known who they were for like 8 years... Most people under 20 were born in the 90's who are on this site...
Quote glaeken 5th November 2009, 16:54
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Originally Posted by B1GBUD
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerberus90
I've never even heard of No Doubt.

Don't Speak

Probably their most famous work

or Hella Good
Quote l3v1ck 5th November 2009, 17:18
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Originally Posted by B1GBUD
Don't Speak

Probably their most famous work
One of the best songs of 1997.
Quote Ending Credits 5th November 2009, 18:05
I'll admit I only know who they are from Guitar hero.
Quote Combinho 5th November 2009, 18:13
No Doubt are awesome. Gwen Stefani as a soloist is s**t. And I am 19, by the way.
Quote HourBeforeDawn 5th November 2009, 19:04
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Originally Posted by Floyd
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Originally Posted by mjm25
all publicity...

Yup. When was the last time you heard No Doubt was putting out anything new lol

I didnt know they were still around... man I use to love them in 8th grade lol which was umm lets see 11 years ago lol
Quote metarinka 5th November 2009, 19:54
this shtuff is bananas.

In all reality though, why are they so mad? Their avatars get more exposure, unless this is an issue of compensation. I.E they thought they should get paid since their toons are being used more.
Quote Cerberus90 5th November 2009, 21:18
I know of Gwen Stefani, never listened to her music, not my kind of music.
Quote capnPedro 5th November 2009, 23:35
Band Hero is a dumb name. It's what my friend used to refer to any rhythm based music game.
Quote r4tch3t 6th November 2009, 03:22
There is an easier way (and probably cheaper) to amend this. Ok, we will take out all you songs and avatars and put a message saying "No Doubt doesn't want you to play as them so touch luck"
I am fairly sure they would prefer to stay in and get paid than get kicked out and never be in another music game by Activision.
Quote Yemerich 6th November 2009, 11:06
Interesting that only the band that are in the limbo of the "american fast food music industry" (the one that produces crap music that you forget about after listening to it a couple of times) have such kind of concern.

There's no doubt that suing someone is the easiest way to make money for such crap bands like this.
Quote Bauul 6th November 2009, 14:22
They reformed a few months ago, last I heard were touring the US and writing a new album along the way.

I get the impression they're taking it quite seriously. They're douchebags for not realising they'd be playing other songs, but I can appreciate why it may have been a bit of a shock to see their likenessess running around singing Hanson.

If you uploaded your photo to Bit-Tech because they wanted to use it on a fan-collage, and you logged on one day to discover it being used to cover up the genitals on a nude picture of Harry, you might be a bit miffed as well.
Quote Stormwulf 6th November 2009, 18:58
As far as i can see this is another Activision Fail.
Hope they get sued to death.
Serves them right for not spelling it out correctly to the bands involved and getting a cast iron contract to start with.

Also, anyone who thinks Nirvana/Kurt Cobain and No Doubt are nobodies really doesn't have a very broad interest in music as both were huge in their own right for a not inconsiderable length of time.
Quote docodine 7th November 2009, 20:07
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Originally Posted by Bauul
They reformed a few months ago, last I heard were touring the US and writing a new album along the way.

I get the impression they're taking it quite seriously. They're douchebags for not realising they'd be playing other songs, but I can appreciate why it may have been a bit of a shock to see their likenessess running around singing Hanson.

If you uploaded your photo to Bit-Tech because they wanted to use it on a fan-collage, and you logged on one day to discover it being used to cover up the genitals on a nude picture of Harry, you might be a bit miffed as well.

Just what I was thinking, especially that last part. :-D
Quote Kai 7th November 2009, 21:17
I seriously doubt that this will come of ANYTHING......seriously....they think they can sue?...oh dear...and i thought No Doubt had at least one brain cell between them.....
Quote capnPedro 8th November 2009, 09:13
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Originally Posted by Bauul

If you uploaded your photo to Bit-Tech because they wanted to use it on a fan-collage, and you logged on one day to discover it being used to cover up the genitals on a nude picture of Harry, you might be a bit miffed as well.

I think we'd all be miffed that said genitals are covered up, but you just have to deal with it and move on with your life.
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