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Retailers: "PSPgo will fail miserably"

Retailers: "PSPgo will fail miserably"

The PSPgo is going to fail miserably, says the head of the UK's largest independent games retail chain, Chips.

The head of the UK's largest independent games retail chain, Chips, reckons that Sony is in for a shock soon and that the PSPgo is going to "fail, miserably".

Speaking to GI.biz, Chips boss Don McCabe said that the PSPgo is doomed to failure, despite Sony's confidence.

"My own personal opinion is that it's a no-go. I've been to a number of presentations to see if there's anything there and I don't feel it'll go anywhere to be honest...I'm 99.9 per cent sure it's going to fail miserably, in which case it's going to put back other potential people coming into that digital space."

This isn't the first time that Chips has taken a stand against the PSPgo, previously saying that it may not stock the handheld due to the high price point and the fact that retailers can't recoup costs on games sales due to the PSPgo's reliance on an online store.

The comments also follow those of ShopTo CEO Igor Cippoletta, who told GI.biz that the PSPgo is off to a slow start sales-wise, probably because retailers can't create bundles to create more sales.

"I heard from someone at Sony saying 'this steps our authority on the digital space and signals our intent,' and actually what I think is that they'll scare the crap out of anyone else who tries to follow," continued McCabe, who thinks comparing the PSPgo's online store to Apple's AppStore is a flawed comparison.

"Everybody looks at Apple and says two billion downloads - well, yeah but out of two billion downloads I'd say maybe 70 per cent of those have been free. And of the ones that they've paid for they'll have paid pennies for...whenever you see anyone producing fantastic figures, just ask them how much they actually made from it."

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Dave Lister 7th October 2009, 11:24 Quote
Hmmm i've never heard of "chips" and always thought "game" was the uk's biggest games retailer. Whoever he is he sounds like he knows what he's talking about and i'm pretty sure his prophecy will turn out to be absolutely correct.
CardJoe 7th October 2009, 11:29 Quote
Chips is the largest independent store. Game is part of a conglomeration. Game, Blockbuster and GameStation are all part of the same company.
mi1ez 7th October 2009, 12:41 Quote
Maybe the PSPgo will catch on in 18 months or 2 years? <cough>PS3</cough>
sandys 7th October 2009, 12:47 Quote
Sony really need to make this a phone, its the right form factor, give it a touch screen and sell it via Network providers discounted like the iPhone, even with phone tech added it shouldn't be too expensive, probably be cheaper than an iPhone as it'd be using quite old tech now.

This would mean people can buy it cheap (with cell provider discounts) and get the games through network providers forgoing the whining retailers all together, retail needs to wake up, Both MS, Sony and I'm sure Nintendo will follow with this digital future vision they are all pushing for to increase profits, the retailers will ultimately be left out to dry.

It won't quite work for PS3/Xbox yet as infrastructure is not really there but handhelds are ideal, won't be long for home consoles though, the next generation perhaps.
flibblesan 7th October 2009, 13:37 Quote
Argh, enough with the quotes from Don McCabe. We get it. He doesn't like the PSPgo because he can't make money selling games for it.
SteveU 7th October 2009, 13:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by sandys
Sony really need to make this a phone, its the right form factor, give it a touch screen and sell it via Network providers discounted like the iPhone, even with phone tech added it shouldn't be too expensive, probably be cheaper than an iPhone as it'd be using quite old tech now.

This would mean people can buy it cheap (with cell provider discounts) and get the games through network providers forgoing the whining retailers all together, retail needs to wake up, Both MS, Sony and I'm sure Nintendo will follow with this digital future vision they are all pushing for to increase profits, the retailers will ultimately be left out to dry.

It won't quite work for PS3/Xbox yet as infrastructure is not really there but handhelds are ideal, won't be long for home consoles though, the next generation perhaps.

It's already started matey, you can now download full, proper games for your Xbox 360 through the Xbox Live Marketplace!
sandys 7th October 2009, 13:52 Quote
Sure you can also do this on the PS3 but the games offered are often tailored for delivery, no more than a few Gb at a time, most games are a lot bigger and getting bigger, you don't want to wait forever for your game to come down after you've bought it, you want it that day and within 30mins to an hour otherwise its convenience is lost.

For example Siren Blood curse is a 10Gb download on PSN that's not really a suitable download size for most people on the average UK ADSL connection, they get around it by letting you download episodes, not all games can be split like that and not all games as mentioned are that small.

You need really fast connections and lots of storage for this to be workable on a proper console.
mikeuk2004 7th October 2009, 15:19 Quote
So he thinks he cant make any money on games because they can only be purchased from the PSN store and therefore cant bundle games.

What rubbish, Sony are releasing game cards.

For example a God of War card, the retailer can stock the cards. The cards have a code to download that specific game. Just like there have been some 360 games addon content cards.

Sony have just replaced the physical disc and box thats sits on the shelf for a piece of card. Im sure they will get those cards at the same price as a physical game from their distributor.

http://photos.macnn.com/news/0909/pspgamecard-lg.jpg



On another note, it didnt take china long to pirate the PSPgo lol

http://chinagrabber.com/4-3-slide-panel-retro-gamer-game-mp5-player-w-camera-mp4---pxp-2000.aspx

http://www.gadgetgreats.com/images/products/detail/4.3_inch_slide_panel_nes_rom_mp3_mp4_mp5_game_player_pxp2000_07.JPG
proxess 7th October 2009, 15:55 Quote
Which is still a load of rubbish because you're not paying for the physical content yet you're paying the same price for the game.
mikeuk2004 7th October 2009, 16:02 Quote
No, actually your paying for a licence, how it comes does not effect the price. It should, but it doesnt.


You dont own that shiny disc, check your user agreement.

Anyhow, if retailers have cards, it gives us consumers some choice and a chance to get a discounted price compared to the PSN. Retailers will be able to sell titles as a loss leader etc which is good for us :)
D3s3rt_F0x 7th October 2009, 17:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by mikeuk2004
No, actually your paying for a licence, how it comes does not effect the price. It should, but it doesnt.

US law says different certainly, even though all EULA's say your paying for a license, as has just been shown in a recent court case, as for the UK well, don't know if anyones attempted to argue with it.
CardJoe 7th October 2009, 17:38 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeuk2004
So he thinks he cant make any money on games because they can only be purchased from the PSN store and therefore cant bundle games.

What rubbish, Sony are releasing game cards.

For example a God of War card, the retailer can stock the cards. The cards have a code to download that specific game. Just like there have been some 360 games addon content cards.

Sony have just replaced the physical disc and box thats sits on the shelf for a piece of card. Im sure they will get those cards at the same price as a physical game from their distributor.

http://photos.macnn.com/news/0909/pspgamecard-lg.jpg

But why would you go to a store to buy a card to take home to use online? Unless it's cheaper in the store, you'd just buy it online. Newsflash: It won't be cheaper in the store.
The_Beast 7th October 2009, 17:52 Quote
I'd much rather have physical media than it on a HDD in the PSPgo, what would happen if you lost all the data in the HDD, then do you have to rebuy all the games you had on there?
mikeuk2004 7th October 2009, 17:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
But why would you go to a store to buy a card to take home to use online? Unless it's cheaper in the store, you'd just buy it online. Newsflash: It won't be cheaper in the store.

For the same reason why people buy xbox live points cards instead of getting the MS points through the Dashboard. Not everyone has a credit card, and kids spending their pocket money certanly dont. Yes it can be cheaper as with any other retial product if the store wishes to sell it cheaper.

Anyhow, it appears to be only the USA thats getting the cards which currently stands at 10. Probably be a wile before they appear int he UK.
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Originally Posted by The_Beast
I'd much rather have physical media than it on a HDD in the PSPgo, what would happen if you lost all the data in the HDD, then do you have to rebuy all the games you had on there?

Nope, you just re-donwload it from your PSN account at no additional cost.. In addition you can back your psp games up on your PC or any storage media if you fear of loosing it. Something I can not do with my 37 xbox live games though :( But I can still re-download them from my Xbox Live account :)
The_Beast 7th October 2009, 18:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by mikeuk2004
Nope, you just re-donwload it from your PSN account at no additional cost.. In addition you can back your psp games up on your PC or any storage media if you fear of loosing it. Something I can not do with my 37 xbox live games though :( But I can still re-download them from my Xbox Live account :)

I still don't like not having physical media
ssj12 7th October 2009, 19:03 Quote
with amazon now selling PSN content, I dont see it failing. I see it starting the digital transition though.
sandys 7th October 2009, 19:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
But why would you go to a store to buy a card to take home to use online? Unless it's cheaper in the store, you'd just buy it online. Newsflash: It won't be cheaper in the store.

PSN and Live cards can be found cheaper online, its no different really to what I did with HL2 when I think about it got the game cheaper than steam through normal retail channels and used the code to register and download it via steam so I didn't need the disc to play on my laptop. No need for the disc, could just as easy be a voucher, I've never reinstalled with the disc, nor paid any attention to the manual.

So I can see that work so long as retail discounts in a similar manner, discounts on PSN don't happen a lot :( so it had better.

I'd rather have the disc (dirty habit :) ) but if digital download is cheaper the I have no objections to it, I bought Burnout digitally as the price had parity with retail and I could have it when I wanted it.
Aracos 7th October 2009, 19:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveU
It's already started matey, you can now download full, proper games for your Xbox 360 through the Xbox Live Marketplace!

Do you like paying £20 for Bioshock? WOULD you pay £20 for it if you can get it for less than £10 elsewhere? And that is what's wrong with Digital downloads. Where's the competition? T_T
SteveU 7th October 2009, 20:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by storm20200
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveU
It's already started matey, you can now download full, proper games for your Xbox 360 through the Xbox Live Marketplace!

Do you like paying £20 for Bioshock? WOULD you pay £20 for it if you can get it for less than £10 elsewhere? And that is what's wrong with Digital downloads. Where's the competition? T_T

I most certainly do not like having my choice severely restricted, no.

I do think it's great that they can offer it though but until everyone is on 50meg connections, the latest games are not going to be accessible to the masses.

Services like Steam for the PC are fantastic (if dearer than buying physical copies) but we're a long way off them being the 'norm'.

My original post was merely pointing out that this practice is already a lot more common place than some might realise.

Steve
rollo 7th October 2009, 22:44 Quote
i loled at his 70% of app store downloads are free

id be surprised if many are free at all. Chips is a dieing store. The one around our area closed down due to game whitewashing it. Even tesco undercuts chips lol.

Chips is just an expensive whiny independent retailer who can go bust
mikeuk2004 8th October 2009, 00:48 Quote
When I was a kid living in Stockton-on-Tess, Chips was my local. It was at the time (and im talking 15 years ago) the best Games shop.

This was long before I ever set eyes ona Game, Electronic Butique, Gamestation or even a Gameplay shop.

It was the only place to get your imports :) And sold games at a great price. But Ive never seen a Chips since moving away so have no idea what Chips is like now, but their website seems expensive.
LordPyrinc 8th October 2009, 01:30 Quote
Strictly from a PC perspective, purchasing and downloading games via an online provider such as Steam may eat up or exceed a person's monthly download limit. Many games are pretty sizeable these days and that could lead to overage charges for those that have these caps on their monthly downloads. I personally do not have a monthly cap, but I could see that turn some people against the online distribution method.

Either way, I am old skool and prefer the physical disks.
livesabitch 8th October 2009, 01:45 Quote
are they ever gona shut up about this now! come on we all know it wont sell! we kinda get the pic now! lol
Adnoctum 8th October 2009, 09:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by D3s3rt_F0x
US law says different certainly, even though all EULA's say your paying for a license, as has just been shown in a recent court case, as for the UK well, don't know if anyones attempted to argue with it.

IDK if this is the case you referenced, but here is a current example that many aspects of software EULAs probably can't be enforced.
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/10/06/software_ownership_ruling/
choupolo 8th October 2009, 12:07 Quote
I really want everything to turn digital download. I don't care for physical media one bit. And also don't care for the brick and mortar shops throwing fits about it. Open an antique store for CDs in 10 years time.
mikeuk2004 8th October 2009, 18:16 Quote
lol
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