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Zenimax buys id Software

Zenimax buys id Software

Zenimax Media, the parent company of Bethesda Softworks, has now wholly bought out id Software.

Zenimax Media, the parent company of Bethesda Softworks, has just announced that it has bought out and fully acquired the grandfather of PC gaming, id Software. The creators of The Elder Scrolls, Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein series are now united under one company.

Discussing why id Software would ever want to sell company founder John Carmack says it's to do with the capitalising on the brands that both developers own.

"We're really getting kind of tired competing with our own publishers in terms of how our titles will be featured," Carmack said in a comment to Kotaku. "And we've really gotten more IPs than we've been able to take advantage of. And working with other companies hasn't been working out as spectacularly as it could."

This was a unique opportunity to team with a smart, sophisticated publisher like Bethesda Softworks where the interests of the studio and the publisher will be fully aligned in the development and marketing of our titles," said id Software CEO Todd Hollenshead. "In addition, we will now have financial and business resources to support the future growth of id Software, a huge advantage which will result in more and even better games for our fans.

According to the press release id Software will continue to operate as a separate studio totally run by John Carmack and no changes are being made to the company structure or game designs. The core team at id Software have signed long-term contracts with Zenimax Media.

We, along with many others, consider id Software to be among the finest game studios in the world, with extraordinary design, artistic and technical capabilities," said Rob Altman, Zenimax CEO. "They have demonstrated, repeatedly, that rare ability to create franchise properties that are critical and commercial successes. Our intention is to make sure id Software will continue to do what they do best – make AAA games. Our role will be to provide publisher support through Bethesda Softworks and give id Software the resources it needs to grow and expand.

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Jojii 24th June 2009, 17:28 Quote
next we'll hear they are making a rts or something
naokaji 24th June 2009, 17:33 Quote
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"And we've really gotten more IPs than we've been able to take advantage of. And working with other companies hasn't been working out as spectacularly as it could."

Please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please ohh sorry I'm repeating myself.
Goty 24th June 2009, 17:42 Quote
I can only begin to imagine the horror of an ill-fated doom-fallout crossover....
D-Cyph3r 24th June 2009, 17:45 Quote
Does that mean we choose be to good or evil in the next Doom game?
Lepermessiah 24th June 2009, 17:45 Quote
WOW, this can't be good, Bethesday is easily the most overrated maker of games today, Id well, they really don't make that good of games anymore anyway.
g3n3tiX 24th June 2009, 17:53 Quote
Doom RPG anyone ?

Or Rage...
I've got the feeling there's going to be a lot of DLC.
Natima 24th June 2009, 17:58 Quote
Why is everyone so pessimistic?
Personally I think this is great news.
They're both great developers with great back catalogues and styles. It'll be good to see if they take a peice of each others pie to imrove games from both companies.
UncertainGod 24th June 2009, 18:07 Quote
Id, make great engines but can't write for toffee.
Bethesda, make good, involving stories but stick an engine together with a random selection of off the shelf technologies and some blue-tac.

Sounds like an excellent coming together to me.
sear 24th June 2009, 18:19 Quote
Unexpected? Definitely. It's mutually very good, however. Bethesda Softworks, the developer, gets free access to id Software's technological expertise as well as the ability to use their engine technology, areas where Bethesda has always been lacking. Meanwhile, id Software gets financial leverage it needs to expand (they are very small for a triple-A studio at less than 50 people), plus a large pool of design talent to draw from. It's win-win.

Until the crossover, anyway.
azrael- 24th June 2009, 18:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by naokaji
Please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please ohh sorry I'm repeating myself.
Raven Software made Hexen (and Heretic and Soldier of Fortune and some other titles as well). That said, I could do with a new installment in the Heretic/Hexen universe. :)

IMHO, Raven always made the better games using Id's tech.
b5k 24th June 2009, 18:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
WOW, this can't be good, Bethesday is easily the most overrated maker of games today, Id well, they really don't make that good of games anymore anyway.
Well, in case you weren't paying attention which you obviously weren't...id Software has been bought out by the parent of Bethesda, not Bethesda. Zenimax is a multimedia organization that covers TV, Mobile, etc, etc. id Software will most likely be run as it's always been run, as I think the view is that breaking the work dynamic will break the company.
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Originally Posted by azrael-
IMHO, Raven always made the better games using Id's tech.
Quake 4.
D-Cyph3r 24th June 2009, 18:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by b5k


Quake 4.


It was better than Doom III....
Lepermessiah 24th June 2009, 19:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by b5k
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
WOW, this can't be good, Bethesday is easily the most overrated maker of games today, Id well, they really don't make that good of games anymore anyway.
Well, in case you weren't paying attention which you obviously weren't...id Software has been bought out by the parent of Bethesda, not Bethesda. Zenimax is a multimedia organization that covers TV, Mobile, etc, etc. id Software will most likely be run as it's always been run, as I think the view is that breaking the work dynamic will break the company.
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Originally Posted by azrael-
IMHO, Raven always made the better games using Id's tech.
Quake 4.


Hello, how do you know any of this? Assume much? for all you know they will merge to two together, the first 3 words in assume spell.........
perplekks45 24th June 2009, 19:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Altman, CEO of Zenimax
Our role will be to provide publisher support through Bethesda Softworks and give id Software the resources it needs to grow and expand.

Just a hint... @ Lepermessiah

Anyways, I think this is one of the saddest days ever for FPS people of the old generation [you know, the ones that actually played Hexen, Quake and Doom instead of talking about it]. Why?
Well, id is great at what they do. Awesome engines that always push boundaries. Games that follow a certain pattern and never try to be more than they really are: Shooting fests with lots of aliens.
Not everyone likes their games, many have never played the originals but claim the new ones are "nothing like the original". Just don't expect games like HL/HL2 from id. They won't have the best story lines or the most detailed characters. I mean, look at the Doom marine, maybe the most underdeveloped main character in a game ever.

Anyways, me and my friends always used to say that id will be the last games maker not being bought out by any money whoring publisher. Well, it just happened. I'm sad despite all the opportunities that now open to id and their franchises.
Denis_iii 24th June 2009, 19:33 Quote
don't care, not enjoyed anything from ID since Q3A
Skiddywinks 24th June 2009, 19:34 Quote
Guys, they haven't merged. They are still two seperate development teams with seperate ideas. The only thing this really affects is the marketing and business side of things

Stop being such pessimistic whine babies.
Yemerich 24th June 2009, 22:23 Quote
Yay! Now that they screwed Fallout, they can now screw another franchise....
OtakuHawk 24th June 2009, 23:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by D-Cyph3r
Does that mean we choose be to good or evil in the next Doom game?

you could in doom 3. it had little or no impact on the game (access to ammo and stuff depending how you chose)
sotu1 25th June 2009, 02:20 Quote
id and carmack have a long history of doing what they want. carmack isnt the type to listen to others. and really, you think they'll turn Doom into an RPG? you think it will stray away from it's roots? come on. be serious!
SiG 25th June 2009, 02:48 Quote
Maybe once Take-Two is done grilling 3D Realms over Duke Nukem Forever, Zenimax Media will scoop up Apogee Software too.

OH BOY, WOULDN'T THAT BE FUN.
</sarcasm>
salesman 25th June 2009, 05:52 Quote
Play the games that's what I do.
Phil Rhodes 25th June 2009, 08:00 Quote
I always get worried when people start talking about a class of games defined by how many As you can be bothered to type.

"AAA games" invariably means "console ports", which invariably means "a large pair of pants". On the other hand, at least it's a useful warning to avoid when people start on about "AAAAAAA+++ titles". What is this, bloody ebay?
p3n 25th June 2009, 08:04 Quote
Johny quest thinks your sell outs, ID.
blackerthanblack 25th June 2009, 08:43 Quote
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Discussing why id Software would ever want to sell company founder John Carmack

:)This tickled me.
Bauul 25th June 2009, 10:20 Quote
Hmm, mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, all it could just mean id get a bigger budget. Meaning better engines, better games, better for everyone. Maybe this way they can put as much effort into the design of the games as they do the technology.

On the other hand, despite what Zenimax might say, parent company pressure is never a good thing. It always boils down to overly commercial, poorer quality games. Something that jumps immidielty to mind is the fact Rage is probably going to take up multiple DVDs on the 360. I can see something that like Zenimax saying "no" to around manufacturing costs and forcing id to reduce the game size (i.e. the textures) to fit on one DVD.

On the one hand, it could be great. But bitter experiences teaches us chances are it won't be.
NeedlesKane 25th June 2009, 11:01 Quote
i think its going to be a good thing, if, as they say, ID Software will remain completely the same then having someone else to work with cant hurt.
Aracos 25th June 2009, 11:04 Quote
Damn you scared the crap out of me, I thought no more great ID games :(

Glad nothing will change but while they say that now I highly doubt a buyout will all of a sudden not impact on any of the development of games.
yakyb 26th June 2009, 08:25 Quote
bollocks way to ruin my day

cant stand oblivion / fallout3
gavomatic57 26th June 2009, 08:36 Quote
I liked Oblivion, hated FO3.
As long as the linux installers for their Windows titles keep coming I don't care!
Slyporkie 26th June 2009, 11:29 Quote
Carmack just wants to finally get that rocket to space thing working!

I think more money to develop can never be a bad thing, especially if they stay true to their word and leave the studio intact.
UrbanMarine 26th June 2009, 13:07 Quote
Oh god another series for them to mess up. First Fallout now Doom what's next Half-Life.....
psychot1c 3rd July 2009, 17:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by azrael-
Quote:
Originally Posted by naokaji
Please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please let this be a hint at a remake of Hexen please ohh sorry I'm repeating myself.
Raven Software made Hexen (and Heretic and Soldier of Fortune and some other titles as well). That said, I could do with a new installment in the Heretic/Hexen universe. :)

IMHO, Raven always made the better games using Id's tech.

............remember Quake 4 ......... kinda dropped the ball there though
azrael- 3rd July 2009, 17:29 Quote
I kind of liked Quake 4, to be honest. Much more than I like Doom3, which I still have to finished some day I can be bothered.
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