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3D Realms: 2K was making a second Duke game

3D Realms: 2K was making a second Duke game

2K Games was apparently working on another Duke Nukem game, called Duke Begins.

Apogee Software, the parent company of developer 3D Realms, has revealed that publisher Take-Two had a second Duke Nukem game in development at the same time as Duke Nukem Forever, dubbed Duke Begins.

Set to be published under the 2K Games label, Duke Begins was to be finished by mid-2010 and though a developer hasn't been named Apogee has said that it would have been handed to a very well-known team. Unfortunately though, according to paperwork obtained by Voodoo Extreme, development of Duke Begins was suspended in April 2009.

The news of the second game has surfaced as part of the lawsuit Take-Two is waging on 3D Realms in an effort to recoup funding that was put into the DNF project, which was cancelled after more than a decade of on-going development.

3D Realms is now alleging that Take-Two started work on the second title to restrict the funding for 3D Reams and that, without being able to get funding from sales, 3D Realms would have always been unable to pay back the USD $2.5 million of funding they got from Take-Two in October 2007 - which is when Duke Begins was first planned. 3D Realms also claims that Take-Two would then be able to buy up the rights to Duke Nukem at a fraction of the true worth.

It's also been revealed that, on top of the money provided by the publisher, 3D Realms poured more than USD $20 million of private fund into the development of Duke Nukem Forever. To put all that into perspective and as Eurogamer points out, Halo 3 cost only USD $30 million to develop and all of that cost was footed by Microsoft.

Despite the rumours that Duke Nukem Forever will never see release though, 3D Realms claims it is still working on Duke Nukem Forever even though nearly all staff have been laid off. Take-Two has alleged that this can only be possible because 3D Realms has a substantial amount of money hidden away in off-shore bank accounts, though 3D Realms have refuted that allegation.

So, in the words of Papa Lazaru; "This is just a saga now.". Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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BLC 23rd June 2009, 12:05 Quote
I have always had hopes for DNF, but my patience is rapidly evaporating...
Claave 23rd June 2009, 12:18 Quote
Anyone else find it funny that DNF also stands for 'Did Not Finish'? As in, 'Heikki Kovalainen: DNF'
:D
liratheal 23rd June 2009, 12:22 Quote
I hope 3D Realms get ****ed in court, and by some enraged people out of court.

They ****ed up. They know it, we know it, Take Two knows it, they just don't have the balls to admit as much.

We will, doubtlessly, see DNF from another developer in a fraction of the time, and probably for a fraction of the cost in development.
DragunovHUN 23rd June 2009, 12:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by liratheal

We will, doubtlessly, see DNF from another developer in a fraction of the time, and probably for a fraction of the cost in development.
And with a fraction of the badassness. Just look at what Rockstar did to Max Payne.
liratheal 23rd June 2009, 12:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by DragunovHUN
And with a fraction of the badassness. Just look at what Rockstar did to Max Payne.

Eh. Too early to make any calls on DNF.

Not being a Max Payne fan, I can't say I even remotely noticed what Rockstar did or supposedly have done :p
CardJoe 23rd June 2009, 12:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by DragunovHUN
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Originally Posted by liratheal

We will, doubtlessly, see DNF from another developer in a fraction of the time, and probably for a fraction of the cost in development.
And with a fraction of the badassness. Just look at what Rockstar did to Max Payne.

Made it unrecognisable, unexciting and as predictably serious and 'oooh, gritty' as any other long-delayed sequel?

A bit unfair at this stage admittedly, but I'm just not convinced that making Max bald and putting him in Brazil is a good way forward for a game that always attracted me because of it's hard-boiled, film-noir stylings.
Silver51 23rd June 2009, 14:03 Quote
Y'know, that saddest part is that if you'd handed the project over to a bunch of community modders back in 1997 and told them to use the HL engine; not only would they have released an awesome game, but it would have been rebuilt even more awesomely on the Source engine in 2004.

I was trying to get a Daikatana reference in here as well for giggles, but I fail.
unklepepper 23rd June 2009, 14:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave
Anyone else find it funny that DNF also stands for 'Did Not Finish'? As in, 'Heikki Kovalainen: DNF'
:D

You just made me LOL my lunch over the desk!

Poor Duke & poor Heikki!
Blademrk 23rd June 2009, 14:19 Quote
I just found it funny that they were using Batman titles

___ Forever
___ Begins

we'll have the Duke Knight next....
V3ctor 23rd June 2009, 14:19 Quote
Sincerily... Max Payne old was something I wasn't ready for... So the game comes out, and the next will be what? Max Payne on a wheelchair? Like Mario Kart? Killing everything with his mounted gun? :D I don't like when caracters get old...
buzzmong 23rd June 2009, 15:06 Quote
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It's also been revealed that, on top of the money provided by Take-Two as the publisher (some USD $12 million), 3D Realms poured more than USD $20 million of private fund into the development of Duke Nukem Forever.

Err, why does BitTech keep posting that false information: http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/20090518_dnf_3dr_.x

That $12 million was nothing to do with 3dRealms, it was was between two publishers for transferral of the rights to Take 2. So, funding for DNF so far is $20 million of 3dRealms' own money and part of the $2.5 million for the two games in a later agreement.
FreQ 23rd June 2009, 16:35 Quote
I'm surprised 3D Realms are continuing with this. A lot of money has been flushed down the toilet with this project, nothing has been seen of it. In times like these, working on this game is pretty irresponsible.

I'd rather the money go to other developers who will actually produce something and bring it to market. I wouldn't mind if 3D Realms just spent all their money, went bust and went home; but instead they'll get backing from somebody else, some other idiot that wants to lose money.

In any case, Duke Nukem isn't a brand anymore. It's like Monkey Island - older gamers remember and love them, but will anybody new to the franchise care? Maybe people here do, but the average bloke is unlikely to.
azrael- 23rd June 2009, 16:39 Quote
OMG! He dissed Monkey Island!!!! Unclean! Unclean!!!!!!
Boddaker 23rd June 2009, 18:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by Blademrk
I just found it funny that they were using Batman titles

___ Forever
___ Begins

we'll have the Duke Knight next....

The Duke Knight!! ROFL!!!
CardJoe 23rd June 2009, 18:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by buzzmong
Err, why does BitTech keep posting that false information: http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/20090518_dnf_3dr_.x

That $12 million was nothing to do with 3dRealms, it was was between two publishers for transferral of the rights to Take 2. So, funding for DNF so far is $20 million of 3dRealms' own money and part of the $2.5 million for the two games in a later agreement.

Cheers - corrected. Just a confusion over the exact figures.
naokaji 23rd June 2009, 18:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Claave
Anyone else find it funny that DNF also stands for 'Did Not Finish'? As in, 'Heikki Kovalainen: DNF'
:D

+rep:D
perplekks45 23rd June 2009, 19:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by FreQ
/snip
What's that swooshing sound I hear?

... Ah, okay, it's just the 1-day-ban hammer from Joe. :D

HAIL TO THE KING, BABY!

HourBeforeDawn 23rd June 2009, 20:53 Quote
and the drama that is DNF continues lol
Faulk_Wulf 23rd June 2009, 23:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by DragunovHUN
And with a fraction of the badassness. Just look at what Rockstar did to Max Payne.

Played both. Liked both.

(Also thought Rockstar MADE both.)

Can't say that I missed walking on a 1-pixel wide trail of blood either, tbh. That alone made the sequel a bit better.
Burnin' 24th June 2009, 06:29 Quote
Boring! If you think about it Duke Nukem 3d wasn't that cool if you judge it by today standards... but then again I will always laugh at the "your face or your ass, what's the difference?!" quote


HAIL TO THE KING
perplekks45 24th June 2009, 22:20 Quote
It wasn't cool by today's standards? Pffff...

:)
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