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3D Realms: We haven't closed

3D Realms: We haven't closed

3D Realms has fired back at Take-Two today, claiming that it has not fully closed the studio as previously thought.

3D Realms has fired back at Take-Two today and claimed in a press statement that, despite rumours to the contrary, it has not closed down fully. Instead, while the team behind the legendarily delayed Duke Nukem Forever has been let go, the company itself is still in business.

The statement comes in rebuttal to a lawsuit from Take-Two, who would have published Duke Nukem Forever, seeking to claim back up the $12 million USD that Take-Two claims it invested in the Duke Nukem Forever project.

3D Realms is disputing the lawsuit however, claimed that it actually only ever got $2.5 million from the publisher for Duke Nukem Forever and that any other funds it received were instead going to other companies which were no longer involved in the development of the game.

Lashing out at Take-Two, the statement from 3D Realms also accuses Take-Two of failing to offer the Duke Nukem Forever team a reasonable deal to continue developing the game, despite the fact that development had been on-going for at least 12 years. Instead, 3D Realms alleges that Take-Two attempted to obtain the Duke Nukem Forever game in "what amounted to a fire sale".

Speaking about the future of Duke Nukem Forever, the statement again confirms that that the Duke Nukem Forever team has been let go, but that 3D Realms is still eager to co-create games based on the franchise in the future. Whether or not that means Duke Nukem Forever will ever see a release or not is open to interpretation.

According to reports from Kotaku Take-Two has declined to offer any further comment on the matter. You can read the full statement from 3D Realms below, then let us know your thoughts in the forums.


"3D Realms Release – Pertaining to Recent Events Surrounding Duke Nukem Forever
Dallas, TX (May 18, 2009) –
In light of recent press articles and statements by Take-Two (to the media and in a lawsuit), we want to set the record straight on some issues.

Despite rumors and statements to the contrary, 3D Realms (3DR) has not closed and is not closing. 3DR retains ownership of the Duke Nukem franchise. Due to lack of funding, however, we are saddened to confirm that we let the Duke Nukem Forever (DNF) development team go on May 6th, while we regroup as a company. While 3DR is a much smaller studio now, we will continue to operate as a company and continue to license and co-create games based upon the Duke Nukem franchise.

As some of you may know, Take-Two filed a lawsuit last week containing various accusations and claims against 3DR and the uncompleted DNF game. Take-Two never paid 3DR advances or any signing bonus or any other funds related to DNF, up until July 2008, at which time they paid $2.5m in connection with another agreement for an unannounced game. This is the sum total Take-Two has paid 3DR in connection with DNF. Take-Two claims that they paid $12m to GT Interactive/Infogrames to acquire the publishing rights for the DNF game. To be clear, 3DR was not a party to that transaction and did not receive any money from it. When the DNF game was originally signed with GT Interactive in 1998, GT paid 3DR a $400,000 signing bonus. Up until July 2008, this was the only publisher money we received for the DNF game. Meanwhile, 3DR put over $20m into the production of DNF.

Take-Two retains publishing rights for the DNF game, although 3DR retains certain rights to sell the game directly to the public. Late last year, 3DR began negotiations with Take-Two to provide funding to complete the DNF game. In the meantime, 3DR was hitting mutually-agreed milestones, despite not having a new agreement finalized. Take-Two was well aware that 3DR needed the funding to continue the DNF game development. Suddenly, after months of negotiations, Take-Two materially changed the parameters of the proposed funding agreement. 3DR informed Take-Two that it could not financially afford the changes Take-Two was suggesting and would be forced to release the team if an agreement was not reached. Take-Two made a last minute proposal to acquire the Duke Nukem franchise and the 3DR development team. Take-Two's proposal was unacceptable to 3DR for many reasons, including no upfront money, no guarantee minimum payment, and no guarantee to complete the DNF game. From 3DR's perspective, we viewed Take-Two as trying to acquire the Duke Nukem franchise in a "fire sale." Those negotiations fell through on May 4th, a deal never materialized, and the DNF team was sadly released a few days later.

Less than a week after the DNF team was released, Take-Two filed its lawsuit in New York, seeking immediate temporary injunctive relief. The court denied Take-Two's request for a temporary restraining order. While we cannot comment on the details of the ongoing lawsuit, we believe Take-Two's lawsuit is without merit and merely a bully tactic to obtain ownership of the Duke Nukem franchise. We will vigorously defend ourselves against this publisher.
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feathers 19th May 2009, 11:16 Quote
I may be prepared to complete DNF myself using ID Software's original Doom engine if Take Two are interested?
B1GBUD 19th May 2009, 11:20 Quote
I'm bored of this story now.... will someone wake me up when DNF is actually finished?

See you in the year 2025....
liratheal 19th May 2009, 11:24 Quote
So..

The primary game from them in some time has had its development staff let go, but they're not dead?

Yeah. Okay, I see that lasting as long as the court case in which they get their ass handed to them.
FatMikel 19th May 2009, 11:35 Quote
I really wish 3D Realms would really just die. They're not game developers. They're hype developers. And **** ones at that.
[USRF]Obiwan 19th May 2009, 11:50 Quote
So DNF is not dead, they just fired the whole design team. So basically DNF is dead.

I am confused...
[USRF]Obiwan 19th May 2009, 11:52 Quote
In other news:

Take2 demands source and graphics of DNF.
TomH 19th May 2009, 11:58 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatMikel
I really wish 3D Realms would really just die. They're not game developers. They're hype developers. And **** ones at that.
Ahem.. Prey?

I do wish they'd just bloody finish DNF already though. Guess we're just going to see a more excruciating drag for the foreseeable future, however.
Marc5002 19th May 2009, 12:04 Quote
3D realm Tryed to make a High-end Game within a Low Staff Steam and Low Payment it is why DNF was never Release I believe they where like only 30 Programmer to do a Task that require a good hundred of programmer such as you see in Half Life II & Call of duty Series : If in future take 2 Or 3D realm Sell it Franchise and Plot Idea maybe a DNF would be complete. id like to see it complete

Id Like at last one Last duke nukem game before he die he being great with the 3d & is 3d Atomic Edition (Expansion set)
now is somewhat not totally Dead waiting an opportunist in future to Reanimate him just like Command and conquer but will take a longer time
Ape 19th May 2009, 12:05 Quote
No team developing DNF means no DNF full stop. So maybe if Take Two take all the IP surrounding DNF then we may actually see the game?
perplekks45 19th May 2009, 12:18 Quote
After that statement I want TT even less to get the IP/sources from 3DRealms.
I know I'm biased and I don't care but that looks a lot like TT tried to force the hand-over of the source. Even if 3DR were nowhere near finish, this is just a farce.

I hope this ends soon and TT don't get anything out of it.
Cupboard 19th May 2009, 12:27 Quote
Wouldn't it be easier to just give Take Two all the IP for Duke Nukem, then they have got everything that the "money" was "spent" on and have no further claim to money?
david fretwell 19th May 2009, 14:51 Quote
Our best bet is if they open source what they have seeing as they are never going to use it.
SMIFFYDUDE 19th May 2009, 15:01 Quote
This topic of 3DRealms, Take-Two and DNF is starting to become as big a joke as DNF's development. When will it end!
Yemerich 19th May 2009, 15:50 Quote
So they dind't finished DNF with the full team, and now they are trying to fool us that they will do it with PART of them???

For the sake of DNF, sell the franchise! Or just die quietly before it comes even a worst joke!

BTW, "Prey" is a stupid game! Let us "pray" it dies here!
perplekks45 19th May 2009, 16:17 Quote
Prey is a love-it-or-hate-it game. I personally loved it. :p
MonkeyNutZ 19th May 2009, 16:41 Quote
Frankly, what studio wouldn't fire people that took 12 years to not finish a game?
sotu1 19th May 2009, 18:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by FatMikel
I really wish 3D Realms would really just die. They're not game developers. They're hype developers. And **** ones at that.

ok, firstly, don't you ever talk about a company that gave me so many many hours of bliss like that ever again! They may have made a big cock up but they still made great games!

Secondly...well.... just let it rest please! we're all tired of Duke Nukem Never, i just hoped that the franchise would die an honorable death and be let go quietly and not be hassled by the inevitable law suits!
nicae 20th May 2009, 00:19 Quote
It's funny how DNF in F-1 stands for "did not finish". :B
perplekks45 20th May 2009, 09:32 Quote
Not that it's been mentioned before but please:

sadlydefiant 21st May 2009, 03:38 Quote
I am getting sick of hearing about this game.
Post some real news about the many other games out there.
really guys...
books 29th May 2009, 20:20 Quote
Yeah add me to the list of sick of hearing about it. I am glad BitTech keep me up to date though! But for the game itself, I'm very much disinterested now. The thing is, as much as I loved Duke Nukem 3d, firstly, it was about 15 years ago when gaming was far more basic. I hadn't experienced the MMORPG revolution at that point, there were no uber huge Fallout3/Oblivion type games, and it didn't have games like Dragon Age to compete with. And secondly, I was a teenage kiddie who lol'ed his arse off at shrinking people and then squishing them and boobs and jetpacks and rofflecopters and lollerskates and so on. In other words, even if this game came out tomorrow and it was a fresh Duke Nukem 3d but with cutting edge new graphics, I'm not sure I would even give a damn anyway.

I have a feeling it will show up some day in the next year or two and it will be the same as the original but shinier. Older gamers will play it for a little while and reminisce, younger gamers will think it's "kinda cool" but then move on, and it will all be forgotten about a few weeks later.

It's just that things have moved on. Through all these many years, they might have somehow managed to keep the graphics modern looking, but I'm guessing that the design itself will be from the mid 90's, and if so, it could be pretty 'meh' for a lot of people. With things like Operation Flashpoint 2 on the horizon, and a bit further Deus Ex 3 and Thief4, I'm just not sure that there would be that big an audience for an ole fashioned "gib fest" any more. Maybe there will though, I guess we'll see some day. Maybe? Urgh. Either way, if it does come out in the next year or two, I suspect everyone will review it with a very sceptical eye.
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