EA Sports to abandon physical media on PC

EA's Peter Moore has confirmed that the EA Sports label will soon drop physical distribution for the PC platform.

Electronic Arts' Peter Moore has confirmed that he will be leading the EA Sports label away from physical media and conventional distribution methods on the PC platform in the future.

Speaking to VG247 in a multi-part interview, Moore said that he felt the future of PC gaming is going to be online and heavily reliant on digital distribution and that he is keen to see that EA Sports isn't left behind.

So, all well and good - but it also seems that Moore may make the payment model for EA Sports games on the PC more reliant on microtransactions, rather than standard business models.

"You’re going to see us take a lot of our learnings from what we’re doing with our games in Asia, where I’ll give you the game for free, or a certain level for free,” said Moore (via RockPaperShotgun).

The interview doesn't offer any hard facts or dates, but it does indicate a definite intent - an intent that begs a lot of questions, like 'Why not put EA Sports games on Steam?' and 'Won't you alienate the more casual gamer who may not know how to access games online if you abandon boxed products?'.

Do you think you have answers to those questions? Let us know your thoughts in the forums and tell us whether you think EA's move is a good or bad idea.
Quote V3ctor 1st May 2009, 12:54
Guess I'm not going to buy any EA game from now on... I only use Steam... Their EA Download thingy is not good... Hate it really...
Quote M4RTIN 1st May 2009, 13:01
do the sports ones sell that well on pc anyway, thought they were always console big hitters
Quote yakyb 1st May 2009, 13:13
yeah please make availible by steam cant be arsed with another download manager
Quote ssj12 1st May 2009, 13:41
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Guess I'm not going to buy any EA game from now on... I only use Steam... Their EA Download thingy is not good... Hate it really...

EA will support Steam. They are on there already.
Quote CardJoe 1st May 2009, 13:46
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Originally Posted by ssj12
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Guess I'm not going to buy any EA game from now on... I only use Steam... Their EA Download thingy is not good... Hate it really...

EA will support Steam. They are on there already.

Some games are, not all, for some territories, not all.
Quote p3n 1st May 2009, 13:47
That EA DL manager is horrible for sure.

Surely 'EA Sports' customers (not usually the 'nerdy' gamer) would rather buy it in a shop?
Quote spectre456 1st May 2009, 13:52
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Some games are, not all, for some territories, not all.

and that is the worst part of digital distribution. a lack of global support for games, especially when there aren't any retail stores.
Quote sear 1st May 2009, 14:05
Publishers love microstransactions because they are able to make small amounts of content and then charge relatively inflated amounts for it. Two to five dollars for some new arenas or a new team in your sports game? That's about ten percent of the total cost of the game, yet probably far less than one percent of the work you'd normally have to do. It's great for getting more money out of customers over a longer period of time, too - not only do you save on cutting out the middleman, but you are able to keep rolling out new content for your games and keep your users hooked and paying.

I don't mind "microtransactions" if they're spent on legitimate, game-enhancing content, but I also would never buy a "free" game and then pay more than the usual asking price in the form of a hundred smaller payments just to get the whole thing. The Fallout 3 stuff, for example, that's DLC I consider worthwhile. About ten dollars for a good ten-plus hours of content (taking replay value into account) is well worth it in my mind, but the important thing is that such expansions enhance the game, not replace it. I really don't know if I could stomach having to buy my game piece-by-piece. With Fallout 3, the DLC meshes into the main game experience and makes every subsequent play-through more enjoyable (the same thing can be seen in Mass Effect, albeit there's only one DLC available so far). But new guns, or new teams, or whatever, that's pushing it when there's nothing to actually go along with that extra content.

Unfortunately, publishers control what goes, not gamers. This is the future, and it ****ing sucks.
Quote Bursar 1st May 2009, 14:06
That'll please the retailers. They are more reliant on used software sales than new sales, and then in one foul swoop, both new and used products evaporate.
Quote Bauul 1st May 2009, 14:08
Digital Distribution should be global, no exceptions. It's not as if people in India run widely different software than people in Canada. More or less, it's all PCs, it's all Windows.
Quote Bursar 1st May 2009, 14:12
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Originally Posted by sear
But new guns, or new teams, or whatever, that's pushing it when there's nothing to actually go along with that extra content.

That's one reason why I love RockBand. Bought the first game, loads of DLC, bought the second game, exported tracks from the first game, bought more DLC.

Look at GH. Buy GH3. Buy GH:A. Buy GH:WT, and DLC. Buy GH:M. Where's the compatibility between titles? If you're going to make me spend £40 or so on a game, and then expect me to spend the same again on DLC, don't then write the whole lot off because you fancy putting out a new game. Make the old content usable in the new title.
Quote TurtlePerson2 1st May 2009, 14:20
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Originally Posted by Bursar
That'll please the retailers. They are more reliant on used software sales than new sales, and then in one foul swoop, both new and used products evaporate.

This is the PC version. How many shops sell used PC games?
Quote Lepermessiah 1st May 2009, 14:27
Well, I got a 360 for sports games and thats it, so not using EA downloader. A shame 2, if sports games got the attention the did on console, i would sell my 360 in a heart beat. Hell, should have got a PS3 instead, as The Show is awesome, MLB 2k9, not so much, lol.

Will Ea actually make these sports games not use the PS2 engines, that was an embarassment for EA considering a lower end PC now can play consoles prots on highs ettings.
Quote DraigUK 1st May 2009, 14:28
Hate the EA download system. Love Steam.

Looking forward to the day where I download every game purchase and keep my contact with spotty teenage shop assistants to the very minimum required ;)

Not bothered about various game boxes clogging up my house, threw over a hundred away a few weeks ago.
Quote proxess 1st May 2009, 14:42
EA Sports aren't worth the physical media they're on...
Quote Bursar 1st May 2009, 15:12
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Originally Posted by TurtlePerson2
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Originally Posted by Bursar
That'll please the retailers. They are more reliant on used software sales than new sales, and then in one foul swoop, both new and used products evaporate.

This is the PC version. How many shops sell used PC games?

For now, but I think it's pretty clear that many publishers want to try and move to online distribution for as much of their stuff as possible.
Quote TESCO-Zsömle 1st May 2009, 15:43
Well... If "they" (not just EA) want more buyer, they need to make good games, not just poor console-ports...

They crying all the day because piracy, but they expect for us (in most case) to buy games just cause they say that. Normally if somebody are interested, 'he' donload a demo, play, then he made a decision about the game. "Buy it, or not?". Today, most of the games (even big titles) don't have Demo. If you want to try is, ypo need to buy it, or go to TPB and download it for free.

Well, the decision, that are you buy the game after you download it, is point of honor...

In short: Publishers want money for nothin', and crying because customers go to a torrent site instead of a Shop.
Quote Bursar 1st May 2009, 16:45
Publishers want money for something. The problem they have is convincing gamers to part with their cash. Debacles like the Oblivion Horse Armour don't help much, but I would hope most devs/publishers learnt from that and won't be repeating it.
Quote naokaji 1st May 2009, 16:49
Some time ago I've tried to purchase the Red Alert 3 expansion through EA's digital distribution System, it was so full of fail that I eventually gave up, first the payment site kept timing out, then I got errors related to the account (login?, you do not have a account, register? account already exists) and various other problems.

While Steam just works, the EA counterpart is the definition of it just can't work.

Also, has EA ever thought about the fact the size of a Game can easily exceed the download limits set by certain isps?
Quote V3ctor 1st May 2009, 19:21
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Originally Posted by naokaji
Some time ago I've tried to purchase the Red Alert 3 expansion through EA's digital distribution System, it was so full of fail that I eventually gave up, first the payment site kept timing out, then I got errors related to the account (login?, you do not have a account, register? account already exists) and various other problems.

While Steam just works, the EA counterpart is the definition of it just can't work.

Also, has EA ever thought about the fact the size of a Game can easily exceed the download limits set by certain isps?

I bought C&C3 tried to download it from EA Download Manager... and... It says the game is not avaiable in my country... lol... I payed, and I don't get the money or the game... That's why I like Steam and don't like EADM...
Quote badgerz 1st May 2009, 22:03
Does this mean the EA download manager will be in a fully working state? that itself is surely news worthy.
Quote The_Beast 2nd May 2009, 05:56
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Originally Posted by proxess
EA Sports aren't worth the physical media they're on...

QFT

I never did like sports games on console or PC. Good thing it's only for the sports gams
Quote EvilRusk 2nd May 2009, 12:50
EA don't publish anything worth playing these days so it's not really that big a deal.
Quote Aragon Speed 4th May 2009, 12:14
Well my gaming PC is not attached to the net, and never will be. I already can't buy games that need net activation, so if this goes ahead I won't be able to get those games at all.

How long after this do you think it will be before EA drop physical media on all games?
Quote Saivert 4th May 2009, 17:43
A PC is more or less useless without a net connection these days. I was without net connection for a couple hours the other day (ISP screw-up) and I just couldn't be arsed to sit with the computer (nothing to do without net) so I switched on the telly in the living room and kicked back in the couch for a while instead.
Quote Lepermessiah 4th May 2009, 20:12
NHL 09 was awesome, no matter what anyone says, one of the best most realistic sports sims ever. The ignorance for sports games is pretty high on here.

No Internet? Is this 95? lol
Quote Otto69 4th May 2009, 22:47
Steam sucks. It's slow, does not allow you to install games in alternate locations, and has a poorly designed UI, as just a few points it fails in.
Quote Otto69 4th May 2009, 22:48
Of course, the EA downloader also sucks. Probably worse than Steam. But since I haven't been tempted to buy any EA games for years (except for Mirrors Edge) this isn't a major hardhip for me.
Quote SMIFFYDUDE 4th May 2009, 23:12
Guess I won't be playing any new EA games then, not with the 576 kbps I receive though BT's antiquated wires at least. Then again, would i buy a f*ck witted EA console port anyway, probably not. Most recent EA game I enjoyed was NFS Porsche 2000.
Quote naokaji 5th May 2009, 07:25
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Originally Posted by Otto69
Steam sucks. It's slow, does not allow you to install games in alternate locations, and has a poorly designed UI, as just a few points it fails in.

As long as you can buy the games, download them and play them it is still the best digital distribution system out there though, as the others can't even deliver that.
Quote Ghys 5th May 2009, 12:43
They've butchered the last 5-6 versions of NHL on the PC. Before this year it was impossible to use a decent controller with an NHL game, even the 360 one. I mean , what the hell ?
Quote Lepermessiah 5th May 2009, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Otto69
Steam sucks. It's slow, does not allow you to install games in alternate locations, and has a poorly designed UI, as just a few points it fails in.

Yeah for ignorance, you can install as many palces as you wish. Slow? Yeah, on a commodore 64 maybe, time for a Pc check there buddy. You fail witht his Bs post.
Quote Aragon Speed 6th May 2009, 08:04
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Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
No Internet? Is this 95? lol
No, I have a net connection, just not on my gaming machine. I do a lot of development work on it as well and so I minimise the chances of malware/viruses sneaking in by not having it connected.
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