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GTA: Chinatown Wars sales are "disappointing"

GTA: Chinatown Wars sales are "disappointing"

Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars may have seemed like a good idea, but sales have proved disappointing.

Rockstar's latest GTA game, Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars for the Nintendo DS has met with disappointing sales that are well below estimates according to investors. That's even in face of the renewed interest in the platform thanks to the launch of the Nintendo DSi too.

While Rockstar and Take-Two originally reckoned that the game could sell around two million copies in the US in just the first year, those estimates have now been slashed to just 500,000 units according to GI.biz.

"Despite a strong critical reception, Take-Two's GTA: Chinatown Wars sold a very disappointing 89,000 units in March, well below our more recent 200-250,000 estimate and far below the 400-450,000 we thought the title might sell upon its release," wrote Doug Creutz of investor firm Cowan and Company.

Investors reckon though that the quality of the game is not the problem though, but the demographical issues surrounding the DS platform.

"Take-Two exported their most valuable IP onto the most widely distributed gaming platform, and created the most highly-rated title in the history of that platform," detailed Creutz. "We knew there were some uphill challenges due to the demographics of the platform, but believed there were enough core gamers/adults owning a DS that the title could still perform very well. However, either the demographics are more challenging than we thought, or core gamers did not view the title as an essential purchase due to the nature of the platform."

Take-Two still expects the game to be profitable, though it admits it will only be marginally so if sales continue as they are.

Personally, we reckon the problem probably stems from how easy it is to pirate games on the DS platform, but what do you think? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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steveo_mcg 17th April 2009, 13:17 Quote
If this was on the PC they'd be crying about piracy right about now, whats the official excuse? demographics. Hands up any one on here with a DS. Is it a perceived thing or does no one over the age of 15 have a DS? Or is just a rubbish game.
[USRF]Obiwan 17th April 2009, 13:29 Quote
It is called global crisis. Food/housing/etc is much more important this moment then playing a game.
eldiablo 17th April 2009, 13:31 Quote
So what about european numbers?
I bought the game even though i could have pirated it, just because i would like to get some more mature games on the ds instead the next big puzzle game. I loved every second in the game, finally a good reason to get my ds running again. Hopefully other publishers wont be stopped because of these numbers to try and get some good games on the ds going.
D3s3rt_F0x 17th April 2009, 13:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
It is called global crisis. Food/housing/etc is much more important this moment then playing a game.

Doubt it people are still willing to pay for entertainment e.g cinema.

Its the type of people who owna DS hardly surprising tbh, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole or any hand held console tbh. I play them for 5 mintues think its the best thing since sliced bread then never gets played again.
eldiablo 17th April 2009, 13:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by D3s3rt_F0x
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
It is called global crisis. Food/housing/etc is much more important this moment then playing a game.

Doubt it people are still willing to pay for entertainment e.g cinema.

Its the type of people who owna DS hardly surprising tbh, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole or any hand held console tbh. I play them for 5 mintues think its the best thing since sliced bread then never gets played again.

I think it has something more to do with most people that play gta also have an xbox/ps/pc and in case of pc of xbox only just got gta4 or the expansion and arent (yet) interested in a handheld gta.
TESCO-Zsömle 17th April 2009, 13:42 Quote
Obiwan say's the truth. No one can expect these tays, that everyone is running to buy good-for-nothing things...
Bauul 17th April 2009, 13:56 Quote
Games on the DS desgined for people too young to know how to/want to pirate games sell well. Games on the DS designed for people old enough to pirate probably don't. The games actually awesome too (played a bit on a mate's DS).
TurtlePerson2 17th April 2009, 14:14 Quote
Pirating the game? Nintendo sells millions of copies of games on the system. The problem is that the DS is just a kiddy system. I would bet that there are 10 people who haven't yet graduated from high school owning a DS for every one that has graduated.
[USRF]Obiwan 17th April 2009, 14:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by D3s3rt_F0x
Doubt it people are still willing to pay for entertainment e.g cinema.

Its the type of people who owna DS hardly surprising tbh, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole or any hand held console tbh. I play them for 5 mintues think its the best thing since sliced bread then never gets played again.

Mostly kids age 5 to 12 have the DS. (not counting my girlfriend who likes to play bomberman in between work shifts) And these kids do not have money to buy games, they are depending on their parents. Most people here seems to forget that kids do not earn money.
Mix 17th April 2009, 15:42 Quote
I plan on buying the game. It has very good reviews and looks great. The problem is kinda weird, if the game was $30 (CAN) I would buy it right away, but since it is $40+ (CAN) I seem to have a little harder time justifying it. I guess it's just the price "eww" factor. I will buy the game eventually, just watching the pennies a little more right now.
D3s3rt_F0x 17th April 2009, 15:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF]Obiwan
Mostly kids age 5 to 12 have the DS. (not counting my girlfriend who likes to play bomberman in between work shifts) And these kids do not have money to buy games, they are depending on their parents. Most people here seems to forget that kids do not earn money.

We'll theres the fact the parents are paying could also be the rating of the game, given the age of the kids and like you say kids 5-12 own the DS and there not allowed to play it.

Not saying they won't play it I mean I was playing Duke Nukem just after it came out but the kind of people or kids who own a DS this won't be made for them.
DXR_13KE 17th April 2009, 16:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by [USRF
Obiwan]
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Originally Posted by D3s3rt_F0x
Doubt it people are still willing to pay for entertainment e.g cinema.

Its the type of people who owna DS hardly surprising tbh, I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole or any hand held console tbh. I play them for 5 mintues think its the best thing since sliced bread then never gets played again.

Mostly kids age 5 to 12 have the DS. (not counting my girlfriend who likes to play bomberman in between work shifts) And these kids do not have money to buy games, they are depending on their parents. Most people here seems to forget that kids do not earn money.

and as you said before, people are paying less for media so that they have enough to eat.
phuzz 17th April 2009, 16:36 Quote
I put this onto my amazon order, then realised I couldn't afford it yet this month and took it off. Maybe I ought to buy it just so they make another one, on the other hand maybe I should spend that money on indie games, Rockstar have a big enough money hat already surely?

I was going to say I don't know any kids with a DS, but then I realised, I don't know any kids, several of my mid/late 20s mates have one though, males and females alike.
delriogw 17th April 2009, 17:12 Quote
by all accounts this is actually a great game, they've just hit the wrong console.

i think to dismiss DS owners as kids is a bit silly, but those that own a DS are - generally - those that play 'casual games', by which i mean the original type of casual games as all sorts is marketed as this now.

brain training and GTA don't really mix
Darv 17th April 2009, 17:33 Quote
I would buy it if it wasn't for the fact that GTA4 was one of the worst games I have played in ages! I don't hold strong hopes for a DS version.

Oh and I know plenty of adults who own a DS, although thinking about it, they wouldn't want to play GTA!
<A88> 17th April 2009, 18:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
If this was on the PC they'd be crying about piracy right about now, whats the official excuse? demographics. Hands up any one on here with a DS. Is it a perceived thing or does no one over the age of 15 have a DS? Or is just a rubbish game.
That's still an over-generalisation in saying that everyone over the age of 15 is in the target demographic- my grandparents are certainly not teenagers anymore, own a Wii and yet wouldn't be seen buying anything close to GTA. Problem is, the DS isn't the ideal platform for it as it serves a larger but less intense gaming demographic. The title itself has got some very good reviews thus far and I'd personally count myself among the 89,000 to buy it if I could afford a DS.
whisperwolf 17th April 2009, 19:21 Quote
Yeah both my parents have DS's but neither of them would be buying GTA, they like the quick and easy games and brain training things, I have actually bought GTA china town as Amazon seemed to be offloading stock and dropped the price to £15 one day after release, so I guess preorders didn't go as expected. still haven't played it yet though, need a long trip to go on
Xir 18th April 2009, 09:03 Quote
...never even heared of it, maybe that has something to do with it, Rockstar?
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