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Microsoft to expand Halo franchise further

Microsoft to expand Halo franchise further

Microsoft is keen to further expand the Halo franchise and create more games in the Halo universe.

Microsoft Game Studios has announced intentions to further expand the Halo franchise in the future, including taking it into non-game related media.

"We tend to view the franchise side of Halo as an entertainment property, and something that we hope to expand in many different directions: both through additional genres of gaming and additional ways to tell the story that may not be game-related at all," said Jason Pace head of the Halo franchise, told Eurogamer.

Jason is also working as Lead Producer on the new Halo Wars console RTS at the moment – another of Microsoft’s attempts to further expand Bungie’s massively successful and popular franchise. He’s also working on the upcoming Halo: ODST standalone expansion to the game too.

I think it's fair to say we're always looking for new opportunities, new genres to tell the story in. And whenever we find a great fit we'll pursue it."

Pressed about other Halo projects Jason refused to comment, but nor did he outright deny that Peter Jackson’s Halo project has been abandoned. Jackson’s secret project was announced back in 2006 and has been through various stages of rumoured neglect ever since.

Halo Wars is the next confirmed expansion for the series, with a demo set for February 5th and the full release on February 27th – the day after my birthday. Just in case you were wondering.

Are you still excited about the Halo franchise, or do you think the whole thing is massively over-hyped and tired? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 13:34 Quote
Milking that cash cow in full force, sigh, this is what gaming has come to too much IMO. Take a good thing (Albeit overrated) and squeeze so much out of it gets saturated. In other news another COD game is in the works, lol.
liratheal 30th January 2009, 13:37 Quote
I hope the franchise dies a slow and painful death, to teach those involved that milking something this hard just ends up with some bearded tossers sucking on dry udders.
Nicb 30th January 2009, 13:38 Quote
If this game just has a few extra guns and better graphics that will not stop the bashing of them trying to milk it. It better be beyond anything else.
Veles 30th January 2009, 13:39 Quote
Well they've already released several books (first one was good, second one was **** as it was basically the first game in book form, not read the rest) and then there was the movie which is on hold. So this guy is basically saying, hey, we're gonna carry on with what we're already doing.

I don't see the problem with it so long as it's not just an FPS as Master Chief (which none of the future games seem to be), they're going in different directions with gameplay styles for a universe that has a lot of fans.
docodine 30th January 2009, 13:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
Well they've already released several books (first one was good, second one was **** as it was basically the first game in book form, not read the rest) and then there was the movie which is on hold. So this guy is basically saying, hey, we're gonna carry on with what we're already doing.

I don't see the problem with it so long as it's not just an FPS as Master Chief (which none of the future games seem to be), they're going in different directions with gameplay styles for a universe that has a lot of fans.

Second book was awful, I agree, but the rest are much better.

The Halo games are excellent shooters with a great storyline. If it was released by anyone but Microsoft, I'm sure nobody would be like "OMGOMG THEY R DOIN IT FER MONIES". Calm down, they're good games.
cjoyce1980 30th January 2009, 13:57 Quote
hang on..... i know there milking it, but what about call of duty, res evil, GT, MGS.......

every developer milks a series of games, if they continue to sell well, expect more sequels as i'm sure with the current state of play they will all be.

roll on COD8, MGS7, res evil 12, and halo 117 :o)
Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 14:20 Quote
No one said they were the only ones.....
COD is the worst IMO, once a year we ge ta new game that has not changed since COD 1, COD has become more overrated then HALO IMO, in fact, perhaps the most overrated game franchise ever.

Gaming unfortunately has become this, more and more like the music industry, sticking to safe trends and appeal to the widest main stream audience as possible.
Matticus 30th January 2009, 14:28 Quote
I really do not see the issue with them "milking" it. If people want to play it, then they are going to make it. They would be fools not to. How many sequels have you wished for and not got? This is what happens when you keep getting those sequels.

If you don't like it don't play it.
Mainstream game makers are always going to make mainstream games whether they are all in one franchise or not.
badders 30th January 2009, 14:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by Veles
Well they've already released several books (first one was good, second one was **** as it was basically the first game in book form, not read the rest)

The Eric Nylund Halo books are all quite good really. They're not Niven or Asimov, but they make for an engaging read.

More of these please.
DarkLord7854 30th January 2009, 15:06 Quote
I'm looking forward to new Halo games/books/movies/etc. It's not the best game and stuff, but at least I can enjoy the storyline somewhat and I find the way the combat works to be more interesting than most other FPS.

Here's to Halo 4 :D
Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 15:24 Quote
The problem with that is that devs making main stream games now stop trying new things, at least in the past there was more attemptes to do somethign new, now even devs who once used to stay away from making main stream games are hoping on the bandwagon. Thus, games are becoming less and less about innovation, moving things forward, but tending too much to the safe console crowd.
liratheal 30th January 2009, 15:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Matticus
I really do not see the issue with them "milking" it. If people want to play it, then they are going to make it. They would be fools not to. How many sequels have you wished for and not got? This is what happens when you keep getting those sequels.

If you don't like it don't play it.
Mainstream game makers are always going to make mainstream games whether they are all in one franchise or not.

For me, it's not the fact that they make the sequels, it's the fact that the follow-on to the first game has been so pathetic.

I really loved the first Halo, I played it for hours on end, both PC and Xbox. It was great. The story wasn't half bad, either. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad. It found an acceptable middleground for "Those are the badguys, shoot them" and "This is a story, pay attention.", everything was fine and dandy.

Halo 2 felt like someone had realised Halo was the second coming of christ, and forgot to polish the game before they ran it down to the local stores.

Halo 3 felt like Halo 2, but even less time had gone into it before they ran down to the store. Two and three felt horribly unfinished.

On top of which, I feel certain that both two and three slowly decreased in length. Three felt like the kind of length I would have expected from £15-£20 DLC, not a £40 full blown release.

They had no difficulty curve, playing easy was akin to playing Legendary. The first game, there was a challenge between the difficulty levels, it was genuinely harder. In two, there was still a challenge, but there was not so much of one. In three it's gone entirely. I have been playing H:CE on the PC recently, and Legendary is harder than the same setting in 2, and far harder than the same setting in 3.

ODST is likely to follow that trend, although, I won't be buying it, as I've had enough of giving money to this franchise.
UrbanMarine 30th January 2009, 15:56 Quote
Games like Resident Evil, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid already had preplanned future releases way before their success. The first 13 FF stories were written way before their EPIC success. Metal Gear Solid has been Hideo Kojima's baby since the 80s and if you follow all the stories (Metal Gear-MGS4) they all link up. Resident Evil was planned to start with the Raccoon City accident and end with the death of Umbrella but new producers ****ed up the storyline (which has now been restored in RE5). The three listed above already had their master plan and IMO weren't milked like COD, Mario, Sonic and GTA. All three have evolved over time. All three will be in the history books as gaming Heroes.
Woodspoon 30th January 2009, 17:14 Quote
The problem with milking games franchises is the same as film franchises.
Almost every games/film franchise that has had 3 or more release's, it's always been the first one thats been the best and the rest have slowly declined usually into something horrible.
So we get less & less and eventually get left with a bad memory of once great titles and very empty pockets.

They really need to start thining up new ideas
Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 17:18 Quote
I agree, it is getting ridiculous now, almost everything is planned as a trilogy before the first game is out now, and by the second and third games in the series they do nothing new, just the same thing with minor tweaks. There were always sequesls, but now it seems everything is, even just a few years ago devs were still making mainstream games but releasing other more less dumbed down games, now that is becoming fewer and fewer. Not to sound like a PC snob here, but consoles and their popularity and how even average games sell 3-4 million copies on them are the main reason. Everything now is geared towards being easy and to appeal to a wide main stream audience. Hell, look at fable, a very hyped RPG that is also one of the most simple RPG's I have ever played, games can still have depth and complexity and yet be easy to get into, seems to be a lost art these days.
UrbanMarine 30th January 2009, 17:28 Quote
I think the gaming companies forgot that their casual gamer might turn into a hardcore gamer. So when the casual gaming boom brought in millions of players they kept making casual games. Now that the boom has leveled out the casual gamer is looking for innovation. Which for must of us, we've already played through years of innovation. ex. Doom-Duke-Quake-HL-Crysis-?. A good story with gameplay doesn't hurt either.
devdevil85 30th January 2009, 18:06 Quote
Will we ever see another original Halo-type game? One that is fresh, innovative, polished and what the market wants as a whole? Seriously. This comes as no surprise to me, and don't get me wrong: I think Halo (for as popular as it is) has justified its existence, but MS needs to seriously find another franchise b/c I'm tired of it...
Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 18:13 Quote
Thast the issue, milking franchises ends up having the opposite effect, too much of the same thing, familarity breeds contempt, and it ends up tarnishing what was once a classic game.

Halo was not innovative, it did nothing new, it was just the first shooter on console to really do what it did, but it certainly did not innovate. I guess from a console standpoint it did, shooters on console were rare back then, but for the genre it did nothing.
War-Rasta 30th January 2009, 18:35 Quote
I'm a huge Halo fan myself and I know I'm getting tired of the whole thing. I've read the first 4 books and I'm reading the 5th but I have to admit that the games and the books have all decreased their quality after every iteration. I don't think I'll be buying the 6th book since I'm not really liking the 5th one that much, but I'm looking forward to the other Halo games as I think that since they are changin the focus of the games the experience might be different enough so it doesn't feel like the same old game
Gunsmith 30th January 2009, 19:12 Quote
biggest piece of **** to grace the industry imho, it can die a death
samkiller42 30th January 2009, 19:18 Quote
I think after Halo ODST and Halo Wars, they should just make a board/card game, maybe have a version of UNO with Halo... Oh, wait, now i'm giving them ideas.

Sam
DarkLord7854 30th January 2009, 19:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by samkiller42
I think after Halo ODST and Halo Wars, they should just make a board/card game, maybe have a version of UNO with Halo... Oh, wait, now i'm giving them ideas.

Sam

I want Halo chess pieces mmm
Mr Mario 30th January 2009, 19:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by samkiller42
I think after Halo ODST and Halo Wars, they should just make a board/card game, maybe have a version of UNO with Halo... Oh, wait, now i'm giving them ideas.

Sam

Is a good idea, am surprised they haven’t done it yet.

Even if the series starts going down hill fast I'll still keep buying (while complaining at the same time). :D
Solidus 30th January 2009, 20:01 Quote
Im sorry but I really dont think Halo has deserved this "milked franchise" title people bestow upon it so easily.

Yes it is overhyped but is it horrible? no infact the games have all been very good with Halo 3 setting the bar beyond all previous standards - Im not even a big halo fan and I think its a great game with allot of media hype around it.

There arnt many games that do what Halo 3 has done and as well? look at the depth it has, the matchmaking system is awesome, I have never had any visible lag despite who i get matched with, the gameplay is awesome, the forge, replays everything it does, it does really well.

Not a single game comes to mind that does it as well - Its a solid shooter all round and its only had 3 installments and suddenly its overhyped, milked beyond recognition? I really dont think so.

Metal gear Solid, final fantasy, super mario, Zelda, mortal kombat, Tekken, resident evil, street fighter (dont get me started on that one), gran turismo, grand theft auto....the list goes on and on...all these games have countless sequels -

So what exactly do we define as over-milked? a game in its third installment and soon to be 4th and 5th? or the ones i mentioned that have had countless sequels and spinoffs but still get rated high marks regardless?

Hmmm
DarkLord7854 30th January 2009, 20:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by Solidus
Im sorry but I really dont think Halo has deserved this "milked franchise" title people bestow upon it so easily.

Yes it is overhyped but is it horrible? no infact the games have all been very good with Halo 3 setting the bar beyond all previous standards - Im not even a big halo fan and I think its a great game with allot of media hype around it.

There arnt many games that do what Halo 3 has done and as well? look at the depth it has, the matchmaking system is awesome, I have never had any visible lag despite who i get matched with, the gameplay is awesome, the forge, replays everything it does, it does really well.

Not a single game comes to mind that does it as well - Its a solid shooter all round and its only had 3 installments and suddenly its overhyped, milked beyond recognition? I really dont think so.

Metal gear Solid, final fantasy, super mario, Zelda, mortal kombat, Tekken, resident evil, street fighter (dont get me started on that one), gran turismo, grand theft auto....the list goes on and on...all these games have countless sequels -

So what exactly do we define as over-milked? a game in its third installment and soon to be 4th and 5th? or the ones i mentioned that have had countless sequels and spinoffs but still get rated high marks regardless?

Hmmm

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Lepermessiah 30th January 2009, 20:15 Quote
Umm, your entire argument is moot, NO ONE SAID IT IS MILKED, we said they are going to, lol. Geez. read much? All those you mentuioned are milked, not sure what that has to do with them looking to Milk halo.
RDST 30th January 2009, 20:29 Quote
I would normally feel okay with this if it wasn't for the fact that Halo 3 seemed more like a content update than an actual sequel. Oh and I'm still bitter about Halo 2 Vista being trashed.
metarinka 31st January 2009, 01:44 Quote
people must remember that halo has remained a top competitive tournament title through all of it's sequels and even months or years after release the games retain top positions in terms of number of online players, either everyone is sheep or they did something right with Multiplayer, in fact I don't think there's a better tournament quality FPS on the market that can compete with Halo 3.
I happen to like the halo universe and enjoyed all the books as a sort of "light" sci-fi read, they all are good light reads and I'll finish the series.

it's called brand recognition, they'll continue to make the games until they stop making money. SInce people are still buying them, obviously it hasn't been completely juiced yet
spectre456 31st January 2009, 02:15 Quote
if you want prime examples of milked franchises then look no further than the guitar hero franchise and the call of duty franchise. i really like the call of duty franchise ( own em all for pc) but i have to admit that releasing over 8 games under the call of duty label within 5 years is definitely milking
rollo 31st January 2009, 11:07 Quote
Halo 1 was only reason i brought the orginal xbox. I picked up halo 2 some time later for about £7 from a 2nd hand game store

halo 1 is a great game

halo 2 is a crap game. Its far to short and most of the difficulty is gone

halo 3 got worse. 8hrs play start to finish ? ?

i wont buy halo wars despite owning the first 3. When did microsoft last release a half decent rts game. And id assume it will have a small unit cap for the 360s hardware to cope. Otherwise it will be lag city

Still think RTS games belong on only pcs. Sorry console owners
Phil Rhodes 31st January 2009, 12:08 Quote
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The Halo games are excellent shooters

I take back everything I said in another thread about nobody buying games because they're all crap, if this is the attitude.

The Halo epitomises every negative thing I can think of about bland, uninteresting, undifferentiated entertainment, and it's disheartening to see it being supported here. Good grief, this is supposed to be a forum of gaming connoisseurs - we're supposed to be better than this!
Veles 31st January 2009, 12:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Phil Rhodes
Good grief, this is supposed to be a forum of gaming connoisseurs - we're supposed to be better than this!

No it's not, it's supposed to be a forum for hardware enthusiasts :p
fargo 31st January 2009, 16:23 Quote
if ms wants to expand halo make it available for pc's without VISTA duh!!! I played the first halo that didn't require vista and I wasn't impressed.
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