Eidos to redesign Lara Croft

Eidos has responded to disappointing sales by promising to redesign Lara's character somehow.

Tomb Raider has been one of the cornerstone franchises for Eidos for a while now, so the disappointing sales for the game and the falling share prices that came as a result have been analysed in some serious detail by the company bigwigs lately. The conclusion they've come to? That it would be best to totally redesign Lara Croft as a character,

Speaking to The Times, Eidos CFO Robert Brent admitted that sales for Tomb Raider: Underworld had been below expectations and that the company was now looking at redesigning the Tomb Raider franchise.

We need to look at everything, as we develop the next game," Brent said. "Look at how Batman changed succesfully, from the rather sad character of the Michael Keaton era to the noir style of The Dark Knight.

Existing fans however might be a little disappointed if this redesign interferes with the current approach of the game as handled by Crystal Dynamics - and while the game may have undersold in Eidos' eye, Underworld still shipped a good two million copies.

Crystal Dynamics were handed the development responsibilities for Lara a few years ago, turning out the brief but well-receivedTomb Raider: Legend as a first effort. Since then Crystal has gone on to remake the first game, Anniversary, and finish the story it started with Legend in Underworld.

The question is then, is another redesign entirely what Lara needs as the character has already moved from buxom stereotype to driven archaeologist in recent memory courtesy of Crystal Dynamics? Is Eidos going to force us to sit through another Angel of Darkness-style failure?

For our part, we think it's perhaps time that Lara took a long deserved rest before bursting back on to computer screens and TVs with a radical new facelift - but if the reason you didn't buy Underworld is because you couldn't stand the current fact of the series then let us know in the forums.
Quote Gareth Halfacree 12th January 2009, 09:11
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
Eidos has announced that in response to falling stock prices it will be redesigning the Lara Croft character to make her more appealing.
I'm guessing bigger jubblies.
Quote DougEdey 12th January 2009, 09:20
I suggest they make her fun, I think most of their share was taken away by Naughty Dog...

What else do Eidos make nowadays?
Quote [USRF]Obiwan 12th January 2009, 09:36
Maybe Lara is just getting too old for this ****...
Quote Silver51 12th January 2009, 09:36
Redesign the entire game. Bring PopCap onboard, create Peggle Raider Extreme and sell it to bored housewives.
Quote Bindibadgi 12th January 2009, 10:15
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Originally Posted by Silver51
sell it to bored housewives.

By that argument Lara should become a man, ripped with muscles wearing almost nothing while still remembering her birthday...
Quote Hamish 12th January 2009, 10:23
problem isnt really with the lara character
problem is the game is bad

anyone else find it amusing to see what excuses games companies come up with to explain away the fact that their **** game didnt sell well? :D
Quote perplekks45 12th January 2009, 11:59
At least they didn't blame piracy... yet.
Quote Florian 12th January 2009, 12:07
Tomb Raider: Underworld is neither a bad game (though the Wii and PS2 versions are significantly worse than the "current gen" versions), nor did it sell badly. What needs to be changed are the expectations that the Eidos suits have.

Another radical redesign isn't going to help the series. Just let Crystal Dynamics do their job. Give them more time to put out a slightly longer game and work out the kinks (e.g. the bad camera).
Quote DragunovHUN 12th January 2009, 13:33
Let me guess, breast implants?
Quote dyzophoria 12th January 2009, 13:44
boob jokes aside, I also think that the game wasnt that bad as some say, i kinda liked the game, the problem is Eidos's expectations, one thing they should have considered is that they released the game in a not so great time (economy was bad, and alot of other good games were sold along side its release).
Quote Er-El 12th January 2009, 13:59
There hasn't already been redesign of the game or character or plot or whatever, well... apart from Angel of Darkness but that doesn't count as a game because it was terrible. Legend, however, was simply bringing the series back to its roots.
And to those who say the game is what needs a redesign not the character because the game is bad, I couldn't disagree more with you. Especially with the new ones where the controls are very easy now, Tomb Raider games are fantastic adventure/exploring games imo - if you love Uncharted for example, then you should at least like this.
BUT, the main problem lies with the character. She is far too unappealing for the people who would typically want to play this type of game, her back story is lame, and she tries to be taken seriously but fails at it. And therefore I think that a redesign of Lara Craft is overdue, but I just hope they do it right.
Quote fargo 12th January 2009, 14:40
crystal dynamics has done a fine job in bring tr back to where it should be,lara looks great and the pc controls couldn't be easier. her moves could be fine tuned some but lara needs some excitment in her character and needs to kick a$$ more! all this exploring makes the game quit tame so they need to inject more drama.
Quote rewind 12th January 2009, 15:37
I must admit I liked the previous TR... the main thing which stopped me buyign this one was the flood of Chrimbo games and Eidos poor desision to release it at this time.

Too much choice and too small a wallet or time to play them all.

I'd welcome a fresh look at the game from the team but hope it doesn't result in a bog standard by the numbers release to please the uncaring general public.
Quote Skiddywinks 12th January 2009, 15:48
So long as they keep Alison Carroll, they can do what they want with the game!
Quote pimonserry 12th January 2009, 16:05
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
By that argument Lara should become a man, ripped with muscles wearing almost nothing while still remembering her birthday...

You beat me to it.
I vote change it by making Lara a man
Quote UrbanMarine 12th January 2009, 16:38
Beautiful rich girl that goes on dangerous adventures to find rare artifacts that bad guys want for some evil power. What are the going to change? Maybe they'll add a lame side kick with witty humor that gets old after the first 30mins. Maybe she'll be true to the times and here house forecloses. Ooo wait maybe they'll RETIRE her.
Quote Silver51 12th January 2009, 16:48
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Originally Posted by pimonserry
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Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
By that argument Lara should become a man, ripped with muscles wearing almost nothing while still remembering her birthday...

You beat me to it.
I vote change it by making Lara a man

Oh, I don't know. That didn't work so well for Contract J.A.C.K.

How about more cowbell?
Quote HourBeforeDawn 12th January 2009, 18:14
to be honest I have never liked this series I just couldnt get into it. ~_~
Quote Aragon Speed 12th January 2009, 23:50
Perhaps the sales were so bad for the same reason I didn't by the latest TR (Or the last 4 either), I'm just sick and tired of seeing and hearing about Lara Croft.

I liked the first Tomb Raider way back when on the original Playstation, and the second one was good too, but when the franchise became more about tits and ass than gameplay, I drifted off and found something more interesting to do.

If I want T&A, I'll DL a porn film thanks, at least they are real women I'm looking at.

That's not to say I don't like sexy or adult themed games/characters, I am male after all ;), but when it becomes the thing they use to sell something rather than an actual enjoyable gaming experience (Anyone remember Lula: The sexy empire? Or whatever it was called.), then I look for something else.
Quote perplekks45 13th January 2009, 00:21
Absolutely agree with Aragon on this one. Though I have to admit I quite enjoyed Legend...
Quote Saivert 13th January 2009, 00:42
Ever since Crystal Dynamics came into the picture Tomb Raider become a playable game. All the old games had horrible controls. Oh and it became good looking too.
Quote DXR_13KE 13th January 2009, 00:50
she needs moar cheesecake!!!!
Quote thehippoz 13th January 2009, 06:21
well her mansion gets burned down in underworld.. thought the game was great actually- the camera is pretty bad but graphics and old school gameplay really sucked me in.. I guess if I ran a smaller rig it wouldn't look so good- other than that there was a couple of jumps you had to be right on the money or forget it

one ledge jump in the gods cave arrrrrgg- and I think I'm pretty good but that was ridiculous =] re-design, I'd say a bazooka wielding blond with metal armor.. I mean laura gets dirty in this game if you look at her skin after a tussle.. but swimming in a bikini under the artic is pushing it (yes that did happen in underworld) =]
Quote naokaji 13th January 2009, 07:17
The problem is not with Lara, but with the game, improve gameplay and it will sell.

Anyway, as said before, her mansion has been burned down in Underworld, so there won't really be much going back on the redesign.
Quote Bladestorm 13th January 2009, 14:18
I was late picking up Legends due to hearing it was good but short and when I finally picked it up (When I saw it for £12 I think) I got a fair bit of enjoyment from it.

I've not picked up Underworld yet because by all acounts its still not very long and not as good as legends (I for one, really enjoyed the cross-talk from the team and felt it added a lot to the game and was said to hear it had gone in the sequel) I probably will still pick it up, but not till I see it at a decent price, considering.
Quote liratheal 13th January 2009, 15:06
My checklist for a better Lara would be:
  • Smaller boobs. That's not to say small boobs, but for the love of god, those things are hideous.
  • Do soemthing about the 'one liners' that are occasionally spouted. Something that makes her sound as intelligent as she's supposed to be.
  • Stop doing the **** 'showing off the water' stretches.
  • Get a level headed, intelligent, woman or two involved on the redesign. Hell, have some real women do the redesign.
  • Go back to the earlier games - Lara was more likable back then, now she's almost constantly angry/violent.
  • Revise her attitude.
  • Get some non-**** humour into it.

Currently Lara has as much flavour as an Ice Cube movie, and it's upsetting to think that a character as well known as Lara is being shamelessly flogged for sales based on the size of her tits.

Oh, and for the love of god, take it away from Crystal Dynamics. And shoot them.
Quote stoff3r 13th January 2009, 23:29
I agree there is something that needs to be done with the series. The Tomb Raider games allways was a "loners-game" where Laura went alone into the dark ruins killing everything. I don't think that formula works anymore, not in this setting anyway. It may work for games like Stalker, but story-driven singleplayer games have to have more interaction nowadays. Just look at Gears of War, wich was an ok game alone, but truly excelled when it came to player-to-player teamplay.

What direction the games should take is difficult to predict. Since the gfx-engine allready works great they can focus on building levels and improving gameplay. I just hope they start spending more time on each game, and release fewer, but more focused genre-games :)

The most memorable game-moments for me was in Tomb Raider III, when i first met the velociraptors, and climbing on rooftops in Hong Kong or wherever was also great.
Quote kenco_uk 14th January 2009, 00:02
Laura, or Lara Croft?

I've always known the character as Lara. I'd say improve awareness of her name, for one.

And then give her a mahoosive pair of bazongas and have a scene where she's having a shower after she's come back really mucky after adventurin' an' that and gets all in a lather. But all you can see is a silhouette, which you could have fun with, like some humour from the tent scene in Austin Powers.
Quote Joe 14th January 2009, 09:13
The game blows ... not the character.
Quote JesterQ 14th January 2009, 12:00
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
I'm guessing bigger jubblies.

Does anyone remember carla in Captain Kremin ? she could end up the same way LOL
Quote sandys 14th January 2009, 14:49
When I play Tombraider I want it a bit more like Uncharted.

When I play Uncharted I want it a bit more like Tombraider. :?

I do enjoy both though.

I reckon there's a top notch game that could be had with a fusion of the two. The gun play to break up the platform adventuring wasn't that hot in TR neither was melee combat, the platform adventuring and puzzle side wasn't that great on Uncharted but gunplay, story/presentation was superior to TR.

There were some terrible collision detection issues on TR too some places where I'd jump to a pole and end up standing in mid air after the engine clipped me to the air as well as some camera issue, I don't recall such problems in Uncharted, Crystal Dynamics still have work to do on its engine which on PC didn't seem greatly improved over Legend, no what you expect 2 years on, I would of thought there would have been more progression.
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