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LucasArts, BioWare unveil Star Wars MMO

LucasArts, BioWare unveil Star Wars MMO

Star Wars: The Old Republic is possibly the worst kept secret in the entire games industry.

LucasArts and BioWare have now officially unveiled the new Star Wars game, an MMO called The Old Republic - a game which has been so expected and anticipated that it hardly needed an official announcement anyway.

Star Wars: The Old Republic is currently in development for the PC only, is being developed by Bioware and is set in the pre-movie universe some 300 years after the events of Knights of The Old Republic. Bioware is currently claiming that the game will feature the usual dynamic combat and immersive storytelling as well as "intelligent companion characters."

The game is still set thousands of years before Anakin 'Vader' Skywalker comes onto the scene with his frowns and teen angst, but that doesn't mean the universe seen in The Old Republic will be any safer. There's still a war raging between the Republic and the Sith Empire and players will be given a chance to choose which side to join - Jedi or Sith, though BioWare promises there are other non-force roles to play.

One of the major features of the game is that players will be able to enlist companions to work alongside them, though these allies could betray them if things go wrong.

"Traditionally, massively multiplayer online games have been about three basic gameplay pillars - combat, exploration and character progression," said BioWare's Ray Muzyka in the official announcement.

"In Star Wars: The Old Republic, we're fusing BioWare's heritage of critically-acclaimed storytelling with the amazing pedigree of Lucasfilm and LucasArts, and adding a brand-new fourth pillar to the equation - story."

LucasArts president Darrell Rodriguez was also excited about the game, saying that KOTOR was the most critically acclaimed Star Wars game to date and that LucasArts had full faith in BioWare.

"For a long time, we've wanted to return to the franchise in a grand way, and we felt that the best setting for it was an online world that would allow millions of people to participate in the experience together," added Darrell, who is obviously trying to forget Star Wars Galaxies, LucasArts previous MMO attempt.

Maybe this PC MMO offering from LucasArts will help to calm down Randy Stude, but with a console version of the game in consideration according to EA, we wouldn't bet on it.

Are you a Star Wars nut? What's your favourite game (Hint: The correct answer is Jedi Knight II - Ed) in the series? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Mentai 22nd October 2008, 11:12 Quote
Yay, I'm glad they finally announced the kotor MMO haha. I wonder how good this will be though, it is quite ambitious to make an MMO let alone promise decent story for what should amount to weeks of play. I wish them the best of luck. I think I would prefer the next Mass Effect first though, that storyline was awesome :D
Emon 22nd October 2008, 11:14 Quote
Sorry, the correct answer is not Jedi Knight II. Although it had its moments, the original Jedi Knight is far superior in almost every area. Level design, story, presentation, artwork, gameplay, multiplayer gameplay, mod support, etc. The only areas where Outcast is superior are in AI and lightsaber combat, but I think we can cut JK a little 1997 slack on those.

I mean seriously, Jedi Outcast had some simply horrific level design. The entire Doomgiver segment could be used in a class titled "How not to design levels."


Anyway... I would rather have had KotOR 3, but a KotOR MMO might work out. It's the only era where it's reasonable to have thousands upon thousands of Jedi. It would be nice if it were more than just a big Jedi vs Sith battle, however.
Flibblebot 22nd October 2008, 11:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by Article
...BioWare promises there are other non-force roles to play.
Why? Who'd want to play a non-Force role? Half the fun of playing Star Wars games is the ability to be able to use the force.
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Originally Posted by Article
...we're fusing BioWare's heritage of critically-acclaimed storytelling with the amazing pedigree of Lucasfilm and LucasArts
If George Lucas and Lucasfilm have anything to do with this, you can bet that any story will suck big time and will sound like it was written by a ten-year old. I'm hoping that BioWare get more input into the story arcs than Lucas does.

Of course, a Star Wars MMO is Lucas' ultimate dream: the ability to put out a half-formed story and fleece people on a continuous basis.

Or am I just a cynic?
CardJoe 22nd October 2008, 11:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Emon
Sorry, the correct answer is not Jedi Knight II. Although it had its moments, the original Jedi Knight is far superior in almost every area. Level design, story, presentation, artwork, gameplay, multiplayer gameplay, mod support, etc. The only areas where Outcast is superior are in AI and lightsaber combat, but I think we can cut JK a little 1997 slack on those.

I mean seriously, Jedi Outcast had some simply horrific level design. The entire Doomgiver segment could be used in a class titled "How not to design levels."
.

I love correcting you. Outcast is ACTUALLY Jedi Knight 3, not 2. It's common mistake which I love being a pedant about. The first game in the series was called Dark Forces and ran on the BUILD engine. The second game was called Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight. The third game however saw the series retroactively retitled as Dark Forces was unknown to most people, but Jedi Knight was not. Thus, the full run of the series is actually:

Jedi Knight: Dark Forces (BUILD engine)
Jedi Knight II
Jedi Knight II: Mysteries of the Sith (expansion)
Jedi Knight III: Outcast

And, by that count, we actually agree :)
Grasshopper 22nd October 2008, 11:49 Quote
As much as I loved both KOTOR games (KOTOR2 is installed and I play it from time to time) and enjoy BioWare games as whole I really hope this one is a grand fiasco. LucasArts deserve it for the crap they spit on the PC gamers faces with Force Unleashed.
samkiller42 22nd October 2008, 11:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

Why? Who'd want to play a non-Force role? Half the fun of playing Star Wars games is the ability to be able to use the force.

Me, i want to fly big ships with big guns.... and stuff.

Sam
LeMaltor 22nd October 2008, 12:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
Of course, a Star Wars MMO is Lucas' ultimate dream: the ability to put out a half-formed story and fleece people on a continuous basis.

Or am I just a cynic?

No, and that's the reason I will be avoiding this :p
p3n 22nd October 2008, 12:02 Quote
What a shockingly horrible website, how companies get away with making such un-accessible tripe is beyond me.
MajestiX 22nd October 2008, 13:30 Quote
milking it since 1969?
Baz 22nd October 2008, 13:40 Quote
Will I need a $5000 PC to play this i wonder?
Bauul 22nd October 2008, 13:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
I love correcting you. Outcast is ACTUALLY Jedi Knight 3, not 2.

WRONG! Sorry Joe, but wrongy wrongy wrong. You're right, the first game (Dark Forces) was simply called Dark Forces. The second game was called Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, but most people just know it as Jedi Knight. The third game was simply called Jedi Knight 2: Outcast, or to give it it's full implied title, Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Outcast.

Whilst you're right, it is the third game in the Dark Forces series, it's still the second Jedi Knight game, not the third. There are only two Jedi Knight games. Dark Forces 1 had nothing to do with Jedis, not a lighsaber in sight. Therefor I am afraid you fail. Epicly.
CardJoe 22nd October 2008, 13:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
WRONG! Sorry Joe, but wrongy wrongy wrong. You're right, the first game (Dark Forces) was simply called Dark Forces. The second game was called Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight, but most people just know it as Jedi Knight. The third game was simply called Jedi Knight 2: Outcast, or to give it it's full implied title, Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Outcast.

Whilst you're right, it is the third game in the Dark Forces series, it's still the second Jedi Knight game, not the third. There are only two Jedi Knight games. Dark Forces 1 had nothing to do with Jedis, not a lighsaber in sight. Therefor I am afraid you fail. Epicly.

Same character, early part of the storyline = Dark Force is part of the Jedi Knight story and was thus subject to the retroactive rename. :p
cjmUK 22nd October 2008, 14:14 Quote
I can't wait for this MMO to float, so that these Star Bores (can you see what I did there??) have a place to go to argue about Star Wars minutae! ;)
roshan 22nd October 2008, 14:14 Quote
This should be a MMORPG. MMO ? i am confused.Because Bioware up to now produced great RPGs.Last one was Mass Effect and it was supperb.
Redbeaver 22nd October 2008, 15:05 Quote
i love Jedi Knight series and old school SWG... yknow, the one u gotta wait for months and had a share on the devil's luck to get a force-sensitive slot?

now that's the ****.

if OldRepublic comes out with an easy button and becomes post-NGE SWG but with better graphic and different story.... it will die.

old-skool SWG is the best. pvp. crafting. story. area design. char progression. (almost) perfect.


<- Bria's #2 Jedi server-wide pre-NGE.
salesman 22nd October 2008, 15:25 Quote
I loved dark forces one of the few star wars games i played a ton and enjoyed it. I would love to be able to play it again. It had the graphics of duke nukem but it was star wars amazing game.
Xtrafresh 22nd October 2008, 16:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
Why? Who'd want to play a non-Force role? Half the fun of playing Star Wars games is the ability to be able to use the force.
And breathing heavy through a respirator in sweaty plastic helmets! :)
And girls with over-elaborate hair.
And aliens that speak in a variety of yells, whines, clicks and gurgles but are nevertheless perfectly understandable!
And making 70 zilion clones of yourself without ending up with 70 zilion megalomaniacs!
And ignoring glaring plotholes while racing at 1000mph through a valley in HD!

there's a lot more to do in the old republic then just waving a cathode around whilst pretending not to make the whizzing sound yourself!

i think i'll try this game, if it gets more then 3 out of the 5 points above, i'll rate it a 9
Emon 22nd October 2008, 16:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
The first game in the series was called Dark Forces and ran on the BUILD engine.
No, Dark Forces ran on the JEDI engine, an in-house engine developed by LucasArts. BUILD didn't even show up for another couple of years. Jedi Knight ran on the SITH engine, another in-house LucasArts engine. Jedi Outcast and Academy ran on a modified Quake 3 created by Raven.
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
The third game however saw the series retroactively retitled as Dark Forces was unknown to most people, but Jedi Knight was not. Thus, the full run of the series is actually:

Jedi Knight: Dark Forces (BUILD engine)
Jedi Knight II
Jedi Knight II: Mysteries of the Sith (expansion)
Jedi Knight III: Outcast

And, by that count, we actually agree :)
Uh, what the ****? Don't know what you're talking about. DF was never retroactively renamed. Ever.

This is correct:

Dark Forces
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight
Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith
Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Jedi Academy
KayinBlack 22nd October 2008, 18:03 Quote
I'm getting this. Now I can stop chasing my dog with a forceFX saber.
Andune 22nd October 2008, 18:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot

Why? Who'd want to play a non-Force role? Half the fun of playing Star Wars games is the ability to be able to use the force.
Because playing as a jedi isn't fun if everyone does it?
Jedis should exist but it should take some effort to play them.
cjmUK 22nd October 2008, 18:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Andune
Because playing as a jedi isn't fun if everyone does it?
Jedis should exist but it should take some effort to play them.

It ain't just Jedi who harness The Force.
BlackMage23 22nd October 2008, 19:48 Quote
RIP Star Wars Galaxies
Rich_13 22nd October 2008, 19:54 Quote
Cool idea along with Stargate Worlds for me but im still very skeptical. I think a new genre of 'mini MMO's' that can scale up would be better than everyone trying to be the next 'wow'. I'd really like to see a game that grows with it's population, now that'd be cool!
TGImages 22nd October 2008, 19:59 Quote
Doesn't the Sith always come in 2? The master and the apprentice? So, first two people to sign up for the dark side can be Sith, after that... "I'm sorry, all Sith slots are filled. You can be a Jedi or a flunky. Please try again."

Or with thousands of Sith running around it kinda ruins that Star Wars universe "rule".
CrixD 22nd October 2008, 21:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by TGImages
Doesn't the Sith always come in 2? The master and the apprentice? So, first two people to sign up for the dark side can be Sith, after that... "I'm sorry, all Sith slots are filled. You can be a Jedi or a flunky. Please try again."

Or with thousands of Sith running around it kinda ruins that Star Wars universe "rule".

Depends what Era it is played in.

If it is BEFORE Darth Bane [The one who created the Rule of Two], then of course it would ruin.
But. If it is made before Darth Bane, then it is possible, due the Sith were a race AND an Army.
Their offspring are actually the Massassi, which builded temples, like the Rogue Base in Episode 4, that later became the Yavin 4 Jedi Praxium :)
DXR_13KE 23rd October 2008, 00:14 Quote
as long as you can play something else than a jedi or a sith...
Xir 23rd October 2008, 12:36 Quote
...is there a SIMPLE version of the Star wars timeline available?

I'm getting confused with movies and stories and games jumping thousands of years...

There's a sith army and a jedi army then the sith army disappears but they're still around then someone builds a robot army followed by a clone army that turn into stormtroopers but in the meantime the sith reappear....

Bzzzzzzzzzzzz...DING! Your head is full, please get a new one.

Xir
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