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GTA IV PC exclusively on Games for Windows

GTA IV PC exclusively on Games for Windows

Microsoft has announced the Grand Theft Auto IV will be heading to PC exclusively under the Games for Windows brand.

Microsoft has confirmed that the PC version of free-roaming violence-em-up Grand Theft Auto IV will be exclusively available under the Games for Windows brand, meaning that the multiplayer experience will be tied to the Games for Windows online system.

Which wouldn't be so bad of course, but the Games for Windows Live system has drawn flak in the past for being difficult to use and often unreliable - Gears of War PC anyone?

The good news though is that the release of GTA IV PC ties in with a wide array of updates for the Games for Windows Live system, including a new marketplace and interface. Still, it's a shame that the exclusive nature of the release means we won't get a release on Steam, or even a standalone one.

We’re incredibly proud of the deep, customizable multiplayer experience that Grand Theft Auto IV offers players, “ said Sam Houser, Founder of Rockstar Games in a public statement.

"The Live service is a natural fit for the platform and we strongly believe it will help in building a strong online community around GTA IV PC.

Microsoft would also like to take the chance to remind you that there are other games on the brand, including Fallout 3, Quantum of Solace and Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II.

If you still haven't checked out our Grand Theft Auto IV review, we suggest you do before...um...nevermind. Or you can just head to the forums and tell us what you think about GTA IV PC and other interesting acronyms.

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p3n 23rd September 2008, 13:29 Quote
"The Live service is a natural fit for the platform and we strongly believe it will help in building a strong online community around GTA IV PC.”

Its BAD like the 360 MP then? :p
cjoyce1980 23rd September 2008, 13:49 Quote
i've never had a problem with 360 MP
roshan 23rd September 2008, 14:26 Quote
GTA 4 was rated exteamly high.What i heard from xbox 360 gamers that game is not so fun as San Andrias.They say game is a bit empty and had frame rate issues on console.Correct me if am wronge.Because i am planing to by the pc version.
ssj12 23rd September 2008, 14:38 Quote
well im not getting this now
nukeman8 23rd September 2008, 14:49 Quote
i got it for xbox and plays fine, its true it hasnt got the fun facter like san andreas have, i mean its fun but on san andreas i could spend a whole night on there, gta 4 two hours tops.
Mentai 23rd September 2008, 15:04 Quote
That's a lost sale for them. GoW for PC was complete and utter shite, partially because of being tied so closely to games for windows live. I want steam as an option =/
Golygus 23rd September 2008, 15:08 Quote
However you can just pop and buy the game from a shop, or perhaps pre-order it from play.com for £24.99

I'll stick to physical media I can sell on when I'm done thanks (my only gripe with steam and so forth).
Mo_ 23rd September 2008, 15:35 Quote
err idiots, they would have made a killing on steam too. boll*cks
chiper136 23rd September 2008, 15:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by roshan
GTA 4 was rated exteamly high.What i heard from xbox 360 gamers that game is not so fun as San Andrias.They say game is a bit empty and had frame rate issues on console.Correct me if am wronge.Because i am planing to by the pc version.

I much prefer GTA4 to San Andrias because of its more basing in reality and its far superior story line. San Andrias was just a little immature in its humour for me. Also I have not had a single issue with GTA4 on or off line on my 360.
roshan 23rd September 2008, 17:16 Quote
Some say's 4th game of any series is the best in fun factor. (A funny Theory).Devil may cry 4, Call of duty 4, quake 4, Resident Evil 4.So as GTA 4. So I’ll stick to that. I know GTA 4 is a better and mega game. But I was comparing that with San andreas Ok?
freedom810 23rd September 2008, 18:12 Quote
Perhaps the time has come for valve to start buying exclusives?
supaste 23rd September 2008, 18:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by freedom810
Perhaps the time has come for valve to start buying exclusives?

I second that opinion though i don't want valve to turn into something it isn't.
impar 24th September 2008, 00:56 Quote
Greetings!

:(

Anyone else geting increasing frustrated with gaming in general?
Not with the games itselves but with the restrictions/impositions/limitations/etc that come with the games?

This is now the fourth game in 2008 I am not buying and would have bought.
speedfreek 24th September 2008, 03:53 Quote
Eh, I already have it for PS3 and have no interest in using anything other than plain old windows or steam to play my games with. I only wish that this would be released on steam so I could play with my friends easily enough. If there was one thing that they really could have improved upon by moving this to steam it would be the multiplayer. I know 2 people with PS3s and most of my friends have steam, I was hoping to have one more multiplayer game. Oh well back to TF2. :D
spectre456 24th September 2008, 05:18 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!

:(

Anyone else geting increasing frustrated with gaming in general?
Not with the games itselves but with the restrictions/impositions/limitations/etc that come with the games?

This is now the fourth game in 2008 I am not buying and would have bought.

were the other 3 EA games?
Paradigm Shifter 24th September 2008, 10:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by impar
Greetings!

:(

Anyone else geting increasing frustrated with gaming in general?
Not with the games itselves but with the restrictions/impositions/limitations/etc that come with the games?

This is now the fourth game in 2008 I am not buying and would have bought.

Pretty much.

Not sure what to do about Red Alert 3 - I don't want to support the Spore-style DRM, but equally I'd rather like to play RA3. ;) I already own GTA4 on the PS3, though, and while it's fun in short bursts, I find the only GTA game I can actually go back to and play in fair sized bursts is Vice City.
impar 24th September 2008, 10:54 Quote
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by spectre456
were the other 3 EA games?
Yep.
Mass Effect, Spore and Warhead.
Warhead might pick it up eventually.

On a brighter note, I was told that the Live service has undergone a redesign, so I will wait and see.

PS:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
Not sure what to do about Red Alert 3 - I don't want to support the Spore-style DRM, but equally I'd rather like to play RA3.
I can avoid C&C easily.
On RTS my concern now is with Starcraft2. Lets see what Blizzard imposes as DRM.
confusis 24th September 2008, 10:54 Quote
anyone know the system requirements? have to make sure my slug of a pc is good enough for it in time
Lepermessiah 25th September 2008, 16:30 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by roshan
GTA 4 was rated exteamly high.What i heard from xbox 360 gamers that game is not so fun as San Andrias.They say game is a bit empty and had frame rate issues on console.Correct me if am wronge.Because i am planing to by the pc version.

I think most of us are on to the little game these sites and playing with these reviews, game reviews are the most corrupt in the industry, no other industry reviews it products that they directly benefit financially from, it si no coincedence the bigger the hype the bigger the score seems to get, is MGS4 and GTA 4 really worth a 10/10? Most GAT fans thought San Andreas was the best GTA, not 4.
Paradigm Shifter 25th September 2008, 16:46 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by impar
I can avoid C&C easily.
On RTS my concern now is with Starcraft2. Lets see what Blizzard imposes as DRM.
Yeah, I want Starcraft 2 as well. A lot, in fact. :D But it doesn't stop me from wanting to see what comes of Red Alert 3, given how many hours I sunk into multiplayer in the original. ;)

...

Lepermessiah:

Not sure about 'most' GTA fans, but I thought San An was fairly bland and aside from a few interesting ideas, uninspired.
rollo 25th September 2008, 18:00 Quote
blizzard doesnt need drm for its people to buy its products.

Good games SELL

BAD games come with drm

mass effect was overated
spore was never good

we shall see about RA 3
Burnout21 25th September 2008, 22:21 Quote
Am i the only one that see's a positive thing about this, that a X360 control should be predefined for the game, so no worries and hassle in setting up dam controllers.
Saivert 26th September 2008, 18:47 Quote
The PC has up until now been a heap of different technologies mixed together. Consoles are predefined, easier to use and they have the "just works" factor.

Microsoft can really show the good side here if they are serious about the Games For Windows brand and Games For Windows Live system. Granted some problems in the start I'm sure they will fix it.
The PC needs a strong standard so it can be more like a console. We need a unified way to play online games. And yes many see this as being VALVe's Steam, but Microsoft can't embrace a platform like Steam where VALVe has all the control. And it's not their product either. Steam is a stand-alone system and always will be. I just don't see why GTA IV can't be on Steam. Yes the game uses Games For Windows Live, so what? That's just a framework. Not a online marketplace like Steam is. Steam has plentiful of games that only uses Steam for the proof of purchase part and not for the online community and server browser. Call of Duty 4 anyone?
naokaji 26th September 2008, 18:59 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by rollo
blizzard doesnt need drm for its people to buy its products.

Agree and then combine it with Starcraft written on the box and you get guaranteed sales no matter what.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saivert
the "just works" factor.

RROD
sorry, was too hard to resist.

So far Games for Windows has been nothing more than words written on the box, will be interesting to see if they actually manage to make something positive out of it.
wuyanxu 26th September 2008, 19:22 Quote
PC has a very good standard, there's no need for MS to come and mess it up.

every game i put onto my PC just works. no hassle at all. just like consoles, you need to upgrade. you won't be able to play PS3 games in PS2 system.
PhoneyVirus 27th September 2008, 22:03 Quote
Well it's time to make that upgrade to Vista an with the SP1 out the performance is still not that good with game's . But with the Games for Windows Live now being FREE, Maximum PC said on there Pod Cast an here on Bit-tech.net so that's not a bad start for Games for Windows.
Saivert 28th September 2008, 04:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by wuyanxu
PC has a very good standard, there's no need for MS to come and mess it up.

every game i put onto my PC just works. no hassle at all. just like consoles, you need to upgrade. you won't be able to play PS3 games in PS2 system.

No there's no good standard. Each game is different and has it's own quirks. games for consoles have to follow tight specs and behave the same when it comes to the community and server browser part. Every game has it's own kind of copy-protection (please stop using "DRM", it's just a acronym they invented to make it sound less bad), installation program etc.

Games For Windows Live provides for a XBOX like experience on PCs. A unified community and server browser system for all it's games. Yes this is the same as what Steam provides, but you have to understand that Microsoft is the only one to really push forward a standard here.
wuyanxu 28th September 2008, 15:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saivert
No there's no good standard. Each game is different and has it's own quirks. games for consoles have to follow tight specs and behave the same when it comes to the community and server browser part. Every game has it's own kind of copy-protection (please stop using "DRM", it's just a acronym they invented to make it sound less bad), installation program etc.

Games For Windows Live provides for a XBOX like experience on PCs. A unified community and server browser system for all it's games. Yes this is the same as what Steam provides, but you have to understand that Microsoft is the only one to really push forward a standard here.
and then what? Microsoft charging everyone for the Games for Windows Live?

competition is good, and it should be encouraged. the only reason games seems to work very well is that consoles have a set spec, if there were PS3-lite, PS3-enthusiastic and PS3-mainstream. there'd be all the confusion and complains.

besides, Games for Windows Live browser sucks, Halo 2 PC failed in so many ways it's not even worth the disk its burnt on. Steam is very good, but it doesn't mean every game should use it. would you be happy if World in Conflict uses Steam's browser?

as for DRM, Stardock is in the right direction, though no standard required, just need more common sense.
johnmustrule 29th September 2008, 04:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lepermessiah
I think most of us are on to the little game these sites and playing with these reviews, game reviews are the most corrupt in the industry, no other industry reviews it products that they directly benefit financially from, it si no coincedence the bigger the hype the bigger the score seems to get, is MGS4 and GTA 4 really worth a 10/10? Most GAT fans thought San Andreas was the best GTA, not 4.

Not true, unless you can please tell me how bit-tech benefits from Orange Box game sales? Journalism is a seperate industry from game development, shure there's the occasional bribe but we can historically see what happens to journalist that are a little bit shady, ie: the ign nintendo editor who nearly lost his job. And hype effecting the score, i think not. bit-tech has run several articles on games that where great, that got great reviews, yet no one's ever heard of them, "beyond good and evil" for example. As an oposite example I offer "stalker: clear skies" which was tremendously hyped and recived a 6 out of 10 or something, not just here but at IGN, 1up and other notable companies. GTA 4 got 10/10's across the board because it broke all sorts of boundries, and still maintained the depth and feel of prior games. Shure people where disapointed by the loss of airplanes and the gang controll abilities, along with the questionable RPG elements from SA. But many more people welcomed these losses, thus it got a just review of 10/10 wich doesn't haveto reflect every single individual.

FYI- I'm still waiting for a response from you here ;)

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=157682
Amon 30th September 2008, 00:28 Quote
And what about local area network functionality?
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