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"PS3 still needs a defining game"

"PS3 still needs a defining game"

Molyneux thinks that the PS3 still needs a defining game, but claims Fable II could do the job for the Xbox 360.

Lionhead boss Peter Molyneux reckons that although sales are picking up for the PlayStation 3, the platform still lacks a game which will define it as a console, unlike other platforms.

Discussing how other platforms are defined, Molyneux pointed to Wii Sports and Wii Fit have defined the Wii and even put forwards his own Fable II as a defining title for the Xbox 360.

"It is always one or two games which define a platform - it's the same for the Wii, and the PlayStation 2," Molyneux told GamesIndustry.biz.

"I think the PlayStation 3 is still waiting for that definition title that represents the platform - and I think that's what hardware manufacturers need to do, find that defining title.

"Nintendo did a brilliant job of doing that at launch with games like Wii Sports and Wii Play - maybe Fable 2 is a defining title. But you are talking to the proud father of this game, so you can't ask me to be tremendously objective," he said.

There could be hope on the horizon though, according to Molyneux, who reckons that LittleBigPlanet could be the defining game for the PlayStation 3. Maybe it's just a coincidence that LittleBigPlanet is made by a number of ex-Lionhead developers.

What do you think the defining titles for each platform are? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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Krikkit 18th September 2008, 12:54 Quote
I can see what he means - WiiSports and SMG on the Wii, Halo and Forza on the X360... GT5 and LittleBigPlanet on the PS3? Dunno really.
Da_Rude_Baboon 18th September 2008, 12:56 Quote
OMG his ego is getting almost as big as his failure to deliver his promises! I would have thought Gears of War would be the defining title for the 360. I do agree that the PS3 is lacking a defining title and i think LBP will be the one, although i'm pretty sure some would say MGS4 is the PS3's defining title.
proxess 18th September 2008, 13:02 Quote
PS3 is lacking a defining game? MGS4? hmmm no? yes?
will. 18th September 2008, 13:20 Quote
Little Big Planet
Paradigm Shifter 18th September 2008, 13:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Da_Rude_Baboon
OMG his ego is getting almost as big as his failure to deliver his promises! I would have thought Gears of War would be the defining title for the 360. I do agree that the PS3 is lacking a defining title and i think LBP will be the one, although i'm pretty sure some would say MGS4 is the PS3's defining title.

I'm agreeing with a lot of this. Molyneux needs to deliver on the promises he makes before I listen to any more of his posturing. Black & White promised the earth, as did B&W2 and Fable... none of them really made me stop and look and be awed the way some other games have.

As for 'defining game' on the PS3... depends what genre you want to talk about. GT5 is coming if you want a driving sim, MGS4 is already here, Disgaea 3 is made of extreme amounts of awesome. The PS3 needs some really good RPGs; when they come, I won't care about anything else. :D
Mentai 18th September 2008, 13:34 Quote
PS3 needed that FF13 exclusive, they lost a LOT of their potential audience when that went multiplatform. All the PS fanboys I've known have really just been FF fanboys...

Also 360 doesnt need a defining game... if you want to claim that title you kinda need to release a little earlier in the consoles life cycle. The more this man speaks the more I want his game to be bad =/
Flibblebot 18th September 2008, 13:35 Quote
Molyneux hasn't made a defining game since Populous back in the 80s.

Besides, defining titles should really be exclusive - which Fable 2 isn't.
CardJoe 18th September 2008, 13:36 Quote
Yes it is.
Paradigm Shifter 18th September 2008, 13:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Mentai
PS3 needed that FF13 exclusive, they lost a LOT of their potential audience when that went multiplatform.
Square-Enix increased their potential audience when they went multi-platform... by a lot. Sony, on the other hand, lost one of the bigger draws to the PS3 - I know a fair few people who would have sunk almost any amount necessary on a PS3 simply for FFXIII. I have to say that pre-FFXII, I'd probably have been one of them, but with how much I disliked XII, FFXIII probably wouldn't make me buy a PS3 for it alone.
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Originally Posted by Mentai
All the PS fanboys I've known have really just been FF fanboys...
Final Fantasy VII has a lot to answer for... ;)
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Originally Posted by Mentai
Also 360 doesnt need a defining game... if you want to claim that title you kinda need to release a little earlier in the consoles life cycle. The more this man speaks the more I want his game to be bad =/
I dunno what he means by 'defining' game, that's the problem. Does he mean 'game that everyone goes mad over' or does he mean 'game that shows the capabilities of the console to their utmost, while being, in every sense of the word... an excellent game'? If it's the first, Gears of War or Halo 3 probably fit the bill. If he means the latter... could someone point out a game that is that good (in their opinion, obviously)?
UrbanMarine 18th September 2008, 13:55 Quote
If they did a FF7 remake, I bet their sales would skyrocket.
Paradigm Shifter 18th September 2008, 14:01 Quote
Quite possibly. First PS3 game to come on two Blu-ray discs... HD 1080p video for all the FFVII cutscenes. :D
p3n 18th September 2008, 14:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by proxess
PS3 is lacking a defining game? MGS4? hmmm no? yes?

Still havent finished that game ... cut scenes slay me.
DougEdey 18th September 2008, 14:20 Quote
LBP WILL be the defining game for the PS3, fun, doesn't require testosterone, and multiplayer. Kind of like an Adult wii, but not a "scary" 360.
Flibblebot 18th September 2008, 14:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Yes it is.
D'oh! You're right (oh, how it hurts to say that) - I got confused by the article, and thought Monlyneux was talking about Fable 2 being a defining title for the PS3.
Darkedge 18th September 2008, 16:07 Quote
he's hoping Fable 2 will be A defining game for the 360 but not saying it already has games that define it like Gears... just in the way it could be defining by spreading the genres it is known for.

I have to say GT5 would be for PS3 and LBP may be but actually MSG4 hasn't been, unless you actually say it's defining as being blown out of proportion and cost too much with limited sales.

yes he has a big ego but avoid the hatred and try to be objective and see that he has a point...
War-Rasta 18th September 2008, 17:09 Quote
Gears of War and Forza are the games that define the 360 in my opinion. Halo 3 just doesn't quite make it (even though I'm a Halo fanboy) and definitely not Fable 2. The PS3 has no defining titles yet and I don't see LBP as been the first.
Arkanrais 18th September 2008, 18:43 Quote
I'm still waiting on FF versus XIII. it looks freaking badass and square-enix are claiming that it's the darkest FF game they've ever made. still, it has been a pain in the ass that they've had all of 2 or 3 trailers to show of the game for the many years that it's been announced for.
and yes, I would sell one of my own kidneys to get my hands on an FFVII remake. I would love a Chrono Trigger remake for consoles as well, and not just a port for DS. full remake dammit. now that could be a badass game that would have me salivating at just the thought.
themax 18th September 2008, 18:45 Quote
So a guy who is currently only developing 360 exclusive games thinks the PS3 still needs a defining title? What does it matter to him? Lionhead is owned by Microsoft. He'll never develope for the PS3 anyway.
DougEdey 18th September 2008, 19:16 Quote
He's getting people to buy the 360 by saying that the PS3 doesn't have anything special for it
Lepermessiah 18th September 2008, 19:51 Quote
Molyneux is an idiot, sorry. what defines the 360? Gears? Many better games and shooters around then that arcade shooter. Molyneux is biased and takes himself to seriously.
Lepermessiah 18th September 2008, 19:52 Quote
Ps3 continues to outsell the 360 worldwide in the same time the 360 was out.
devdevil85 18th September 2008, 21:18 Quote
PS3 may not have a couple defining games that sell/appeal to 5+ million gamers at the moment, but there is a slew of great exclusives out that are both AAA and PSN-downloadable that make the console worth owning. Honestly, it is because of Sony not defining their console with adolescent, teenager shoot-em ups that made me purchase their console in the first place. Don't get me wrong, Halo 3/Gears are great games, but like Lepermessiah said above, there are plenty of other great shooters out there. With that said, it's good to hear Molyneux recognizing LBP as a possible definer.
DougEdey 18th September 2008, 21:26 Quote
I think you guys are too fanboyish (not you devdevil) the other two, Molyneux is not an idiot, he's not closing off any possibility of the PS3 having a defining game but as yet there isn't anything that makes me go "WOW", the reason I bought a PS3 is because they finally got DS and LBP! There's not been anything else that's attracted me.
Jasio 18th September 2008, 21:35 Quote
The player defines the games success, not what some ****** sitting behind a desk tells me.
mikeuk2004 18th September 2008, 22:32 Quote
Well, lets see how many copies of Fable II sell and if it defines the 360. I dont think alot of joe public know much about it. I didnt even know of the first fable.
Redbeaver 19th September 2008, 05:26 Quote
more people know about MSG series than Fable. if u think PS3 doesnt have anything to define it so far, then dont even bother mentioning Fable 2......
staples 22nd September 2008, 01:35 Quote
I completely agree.
One of the reasons the 360 will continue to be success is the fact that is has a strong selection of defining games.

The PS3 just doesn't offer this just yet and while it does have some good games its library really isn't all that special.
I completely expect this to change and Little Big Planet is going to be one hell of a step forward but it is not about being a fan boy it is just obvious.
The PS3 is a lovely bit of kit but the fact remains if you just want to play a wide selection of games right now, with a fair few excellent titles and low prices on traded games you would be mad not getting a 360.
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