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EA: No Spore demo, but expansions planned

EA: No Spore demo, but expansions planned

The first expansions for Spore will include Flora creators, as well as other tools.

Electronic Arts executive producer Lucy Bradshaw has confirmed that they'll be no proper demo for EA Maxis' Spore, but has revealed more information on the planned expansions to the game.

"We're not planning a demo of the game. Just the Creature Creator," said Lucy in an interview with Eurogamer. EA has however made early prototype version of the game available for download to showcase the development of the project.

Lucy confirmed the previous comments made by Spore producer Tommy Vu that expansions to Spore will not be traditional extra-content packs, but will instead consist of extra editors and tools for use in the game.

"When we started Spore, we were thinking about how we'd make an engine that had the possibility of expansion, so yes, we'll add to the experience," she said.

"I think, however, we have a very cool opportunity to take Spore in a few different directions too. The editors are so cool and fun, that we want to advance those as well as the gameplay that we put into the core game."

One such future expansion that Bradshaw could detail was the Flora Creator, which will let players invent their own types of margarine plants to populate their worlds with.

Lucy also spoke briefly about the copy protection used in the game.

"We do have copy protection, it is a necessary part of our biz, but we've worked to make it something that does not punish the legit owners. You need to authenticate once at the first install. This happens online. You can install on three separate computers and you do need to register for the online features."

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steveo_mcg 18th August 2008, 11:31 Quote
Hate to say it given they've been improving of late but... This is just typical EA, and why I dislike them.
Mentai 18th August 2008, 11:37 Quote
What you think they should include the editors in the game and ship it another 6 months from now? I guess they could pull a valve and release epic content for free, but I certainly don't expect that of many companies. Also the DRM stated caused me zero problems in Mass Effect and I like the 3 installs no disc required thing, again it is more than most companies give. I don't think there is anything wrong with what EA have done here.
steveo_mcg 18th August 2008, 11:54 Quote
Not having a demo is fine if you trust in the company.

I don't know how they would do a demo, maybe a set creature, but i've never played it and i don't know if i'd actually like it which is exactly why games like this need a demo. FPS you know what to expect so its all about whether the style gels with you, but this is new territory its not just the style of the title this is virtually a new genre.

Don't be surprised to see massive zero day piracy and the (almost) valid excuse is going to be the one i just out lined.

As for the DRM, i'm glad its all worked out for you, and i hope it continues to work out.
LeMaltor 18th August 2008, 12:05 Quote
Paid expansions or free?
wuyanxu 18th August 2008, 12:29 Quote
3 installs might not be enough if it's such a replayable game
Bladestorm 18th August 2008, 12:59 Quote
If by three installs they mean "after three installs, the CD becomes a drinks coaster" then I'll certainly be avoiding it untill the price has dropped significantly before buying. (Much as I'm doing with mass effect, even though it would be right up my alley I gather)
sotu1 18th August 2008, 13:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
3 installs might not be enough if it's such a replayable game

thing is this, do you really have 3 gaming systems tht you play and rotate that frequently?
CardJoe 18th August 2008, 13:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bladestorm
If by three installs they mean "after three installs, the CD becomes a drinks coaster" then I'll certainly be avoiding it untill the price has dropped significantly before buying. (Much as I'm doing with mass effect, even though it would be right up my alley I gather)

It's not. It's three CONCURRENT installs. Connect online when you uninstall and you can get back one install credit. It means you can have the game installed on three machines AT ANY ONE TIME.
Xir 18th August 2008, 13:25 Quote
If it's an online game, anyway, the "authenticate once at the first install" is no problem.....
If it's a stand-alone game, it is.

Why?
I just waited 6 months to simply GET an internet connection...
Romirez 18th August 2008, 13:31 Quote
Won't be buying anything with limited installs. Annoying feature if, like me, you tend to format every few months and can't be bothered uninstalling everything. And no demo for a game which is so innovative and different isn't exactly a bright idea...
bogie170 18th August 2008, 13:36 Quote
So how am I supposed to install this when I am deployed on my warship out in the Gulf with no internet connection?

EA Screws the Forces... I'll remove this from my pre-order at play.com
mmorgue 18th August 2008, 13:37 Quote
Have they actually said *which* DRM solution they're going with? If it's SecuROM then I'll have to avoid it, sadly, and go for a different 'release' of Spore.. :(
Bauul 18th August 2008, 13:43 Quote
The internet connection requirement for DRM is hardly a problem given without a net connection the game is totally broken. 99% of the vanilla content is usermade and downloaded, so it's absolutely vital you have one. As for three installs at the same time: meh, it's fine. Microsoft does the same with Windows and few people complain nowadays.
Timmy_the_tortoise 18th August 2008, 13:58 Quote
Have MAXIS ever actually released a demo and NOT released a shed load of expansion packs?
DXR_13KE 18th August 2008, 14:01 Quote
are they going to make this into another "SIMS"? with those 100000 paid expansions......
wuyanxu 18th August 2008, 14:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Romirez
Won't be buying anything with limited installs. Annoying feature if, like me, you tend to format every few months and can't be bothered uninstalling everything. And no demo for a game which is so innovative and different isn't exactly a bright idea...
that's why i think 3 installs may not be enough.

anyways, Bioshock DRM got disabled fast enough, so hopefuly this will be fine if they disable it within 6 month
TGImages 18th August 2008, 16:08 Quote
After having played with the editor, I could see future expansion packs including a water creatures editor and a flying createures editor. Those are obviously missing in the current editor. Sure you can make a land shark and dragons with wings that can't fly but it just isn't the same.
CardJoe 18th August 2008, 17:02 Quote
Wings ARE in the full game. Proper wings I mean.
cyrilthefish 18th August 2008, 17:50 Quote
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We do have copy protection, it is a necessary part of our biz
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r4tch3t 18th August 2008, 23:04 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
It's not. It's three CONCURRENT installs. Connect online when you uninstall and you can get back one install credit. It means you can have the game installed on three machines AT ANY ONE TIME.
Is it just the wording or can I buy one copy of the game and install it on both my laptop and PC so both myself and my partner can play at the same time? Or is it just a little bit of leeway?
LordPyrinc 19th August 2008, 01:15 Quote
Try uninstalling the game from a corrupted/crashed harddrive. How do I get my install credit back then? Besides I still have games that I install from time to time that I played back in 96' on my first PC. This rig in particular is my 4th desktop in that timeframe (laptops not included). I've also had at least 4 harddrives go belly up in the last 12 years or so. DRM needs to just f***'n go away!
Sublym3 19th August 2008, 01:19 Quote
The DRM isnt that bad, you dont even notice it. Mass effect worked without the slightest problem.

I am glad EA is improving as they have created/bought good IPs and it would be shame if they stuffed them all up.
impar 19th August 2008, 01:33 Quote
Greetings!
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
It's not. It's three CONCURRENT installs. Connect online when you uninstall and you can get back one install credit. It means you can have the game installed on three machines AT ANY ONE TIME.
When did EA changed the way limited installs will behave, CardJoe?! :?
At the announcement of DRM in Spore, it was supposed to be same as Mass Effect.
Three limited activations, with no way of geting back activations and hardware changes triggering the use of a new activation.
When you expend the three allowed activations, you must call or e-mail EA and beg for a new activation credit.
If you install the game in two OS (XP and Vista) and then upgrade to a new graphic card, the game will need to be reactivated in both OSes, the first OS will expend your last activation and you will need to contact EA for the second OS activation (your fourth activation).
You dont need the DVD drive to be in the drive, though.
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Originally Posted by mmorgue
Have they actually said *which* DRM solution they're going with?
Securom.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
are they going to make this into another "SIMS"? with those 100000 paid expansions......
Thats EAs plan, DXR_13KE.

PS
From EAs mouth, in regards to the Creature Editor, with the usual marketing spin lingo:
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QUESTION
How will Digital Rights Management (DRM) work with Spore Creature Creator?
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Answer

The DRM solution implemented for the Spore Creature Creator changes copy protection from being key disc based, which requires authentication every time you play the game by requiring a disc in the drive, to a one time online authentication. This system has the added benefit of allowing you to seamlessly play your game without requiring the game disc in the drive.

KEY POINTS:

* This system allows you to authenticate your game on three different computers with the purchase of one disc. EA Customer Service is on hand to supply any additional authorizations that are warranted. This will be done on a case-by-case basis by contacting Customer Support.
* Games are authorized to your machine when you first install and launch the game.
* We’ve all had those times when the discs get lost or scratched and you can’t play a game you’ve bought because you need a working disc in the drive. With this new system, players will no longer need the disc to play the game, but can instead simply retain the disc as back up for re-installation.

FAQ:
Q: What is the difference between the old PC disc authentication solution and the new online model?
A: Two things have changed:

* First, authentication of your game disc has changed from a physical format to an online format, eliminating
* the need to have a disc in the drive when playing.
* Second, with online authentication, consumers now connect to the Internet the first time the game is launched and are only required to reconnect if they are downloading new game content.

Q: How will the game authenticate now?
A: We authenticate your game online when you install and launch it for the first time.

Q: Do I have to re-authenticate after the first time my game is launched?
A: Re-authentication is required if the game is re-installed on a previously authorized machine for any reason. If you choose to use online features or download new content or a patch for your game you will need to register online and log in for those services.

Q: What are the benefits of online authentication, vs. the disc-based model?
A: The new system means you don't need to have the game disc in your computer in order to play. Losing a disc will no longer keep you from enjoying a game you already have installed.

Q: Am I able to play my game on more than one computer? Do I need the disc for that?
A: You'll be able to install and play your game on up to three computers without the need of the game disc. Your computer is authorized after installation and the initial launch of the game.

Q: Will I still be able to play my game offline?
A: Yes, you can play offline. However, we do hope that you will play online. Sharing creatures, buildings and vehicles with other players is something that is unique to Spore and one of the coolest features of the game.

Q: What happens when I’ve reached the maximum number of computers for my game and I need more? (Due to computer upgrades, theft, crashes, etc.)
A: EA Customer Support is on hand to supply any additional authorizations that are warranted. This will be done on a case-by-case basis by contacting Customer Support.

Q: Why are Maxis and EA implementing this new authentication process?
A: This solution serves to protect our software from piracy. It has the added benefit of allowing you to activate your game on multiple machines without needing the game disc in the drive when playing the
game.

Thats the DRM to be expected in Spore.
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