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GAME to publish games too?

GAME to publish games too?

GAME is looking to expand business by publishing games from smaller developers.

UK games retailer, GAME, has indicated that it might be moving into the publishing business directly in the near future according to MCV.

The retail giant, which also owns Gamestation and is often accused of having a chokehold on the UK games market, isn't intending to star developing and publishing AAA titles though instead it has an eye on the indie circuit and is searching for smaller developers.

If it works commercially for GAME and helps a smaller publisher get off the ground by GAME sharing some of the risk, then we would look at it – we have a distribution channel and we can offer a service," said a GAME spokesperson.

The plan to start publishing games itself though may cause more friction between the chain of stores and larger, existing publishers. There's already plenty of disagreement between the two groups and several publishers are vocally annoyed that they get zero revenue from the sales of pre-owned games.

GAME meanwhile is quick to point out that it doesn't want to threaten publishers and is more interested in publishing smaller titles.

"This isn’t about us doing something that threatens publishers. It is about listening to developers who may come to us with titles that may not otherwise be able to get to market."

Would you buy a GAME-published game, or do you only go for online distribution now? Let us know what you think in the forums.

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ChaosDefinesOrder 4th July 2008, 11:27 Quote
"several publishers are vocally annoyed that they get zero revenue from the sales of pre-owned games"

and this is why Steam doesn't allow you to sell on the games you buy. (something I see people complaining about a lot)
Jordan Wise 4th July 2008, 11:34 Quote
i see buying games the same way i do when buying a novel. I'm not going to sell it on, its just not worths it, for the ~£10 you sell a game on for i'd rather keep it for a rainy day. most games in my collection have been played through at least once, but some (mgs, ff7, hl2) have had more than 10 runs through easily, i bet ff7 must be on about 25, and thats a long game
ParaHelix.org 4th July 2008, 11:42 Quote
Lets face it people, for the price of games nowadays, there is simply no point in selling them on, y'all know you like looking at them on your Steam list lol. I guess it would be a bad idea for Steam to allow you to sell games as people would be sellin them to each other all the time rather then paying Valve anything.
1ad7 4th July 2008, 11:47 Quote
well they rip off the rental dealers.... so they can eat it when it comes to preowned. we spend a fortune on our game rental buisness at blockbuster... its a little outrageous
Flibblebot 4th July 2008, 11:50 Quote
I don't understand what the whole issue with sales of secondhand games is all about. The publishers already got their cut when the game was sold the first time, expecting more is just greedy.

You don't see other industries jumping up and down about the secondhand market. If I buy a book secondhand, I don't get mugged by representatives from Penguin asking for a cut of what I paid; if I buy a secondhand fridge, Hotpoint don't ask for more money.
shigllgetcha 4th July 2008, 12:19 Quote
if im acutally interested in a game ill buy it new, otherwise if im not that interested ill see if i can get it preowned and if i dont see it for the right price i wont get.
id say 80% of my games were bought new and the ones i was iffy about i bought preowned.
if im confident in the quality of a game ill buy it new, but im not paying €70 for a game that could out to be tat
and if game publishers were making games that people didnt want to part with there wouldnt be a preowned market, im not getting rid of pgr, orange box, cod 23or4, halo 3, rainbow 6, GTA4 probably not crackdown because of their replay value
steveo_mcg 4th July 2008, 12:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
I don't understand what the whole issue with sales of secondhand games is all about. The publishers already got their cut when the game was sold the first time, expecting more is just greedy.

You don't see other industries jumping up and down about the secondhand market. If I buy a book secondhand, I don't get mugged by representatives from Penguin asking for a cut of what I paid; if I buy a secondhand fridge, Hotpoint don't ask for more money.

Car companies actively encourage the second hand market. The easier it is to sell your Hyundai when the warranty/ 3 years is up the more likely you are to buy it new. If only games pubs would see it that way, if your game has a good resale value i'll buy it new and get it before its up for resale safe in the knowledge its cost £30 in stead of £50 since i got £20 back for it.
freedom810 4th July 2008, 13:29 Quote
Digital distribution > GAME.
Im lazy.
naokaji 4th July 2008, 13:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
I don't understand what the whole issue with sales of secondhand games is all about. The publishers already got their cut when the game was sold the first time, expecting more is just greedy.

You don't see other industries jumping up and down about the secondhand market. If I buy a book secondhand, I don't get mugged by representatives from Penguin asking for a cut of what I paid; if I buy a secondhand fridge, Hotpoint don't ask for more money.

mobile phones come to mind, what do you think why they offer you money (through a as complicated as legally somehow possible procedure) for your old one? exactly, so you dont give it to your grandmother (or someone else who cant tell its old crap) and has to get a new one as well.
Timmy_the_tortoise 4th July 2008, 16:22 Quote
Not a bad idea... publish games and make them exclusive to your (virtual monopoly of a) retail department, and then see a MASSIVE chunk of the profits from every sale.
will. 4th July 2008, 16:27 Quote
Game is also about to purchase Gamestation... Looks like they have big aspirations!
Timmy_the_tortoise 4th July 2008, 16:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by will.
Game is also about to purchase Gamestation... Looks like they have big aspirations!

They bought Gamestation from Blockbuster months ago... it may have even been a year now..
will. 4th July 2008, 16:34 Quote
Did they? haha.. Shows how much I pay attention.
mikeuk2004 4th July 2008, 17:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by will.
Game is also about to purchase Gamestation... Looks like they have big aspirations!

You didnt read Joe's article did you? Or you would have noticed this int he first line of the second para.
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The retail giant, which also owns Gamestation a
will. 4th July 2008, 17:41 Quote
I speed read the internet.
DXR_13KE 4th July 2008, 21:27 Quote
the future of game distribution lies in the internet, game stores are set to be extinct or to get far far smaller in importance.
Liquid K9 5th July 2008, 04:06 Quote
Can someone explain the rationale these greedy bar stewards are lobbying that explains why on earth they deserve to be paid perpetually for a product a person has already paid for?

Theres something about the fact that you cant physically touch something that makes people go nuts, and greedy. mostly greedy.

God, I think you touched a nerve with that.... seriously! When I buy something, I OWN it. All this software licensing stuff has gotten so overboard, its like we're being bled dry by some sort of licensing-mafia.

When you own something you should, by my reconing, have the right to:

1) use it, abuse it, do whatever you want to it - its yours. [modding]

2) loan it to others (bearing in mind, only that one person is using it in the case of software, at the same time) [rental]

3) sell it on [um.. capitalism?]

and all without these greedy companies getting all whiny about not getting EXTRA pocket money :( :(
Liquid K9 5th July 2008, 04:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
the future of game distribution lies in the internet, game stores are set to be extinct or to get far far smaller in importance.

yeah, and they said there would be a paper-less office too...

people will always want a reason to go and see the world outside, and touch the stuff they're buying. not everyone likes the future where everything is digital... including human beings.
kempez 5th July 2008, 12:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by Liquid K9
Quote:
Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
the future of game distribution lies in the internet, game stores are set to be extinct or to get far far smaller in importance.

yeah, and they said there would be a paper-less office too...

people will always want a reason to go and see the world outside, and touch the stuff they're buying. not everyone likes the future where everything is digital... including human beings.

I'm not a fan of digital games if it's the big titles, I like to see the box on my shelf (I've got HL2 in a retail box). Indie and cheaper games are ok, but like with the Wii when I sold it I couldn't sell the games I bought with it, which pissed me off somewhat tbh

OT: Game selling indie titles could be cool, if they're any good of course:
Saivert 6th July 2008, 06:54 Quote
Software can never be equal to physical objects. Even if you buy the game retail it's still just bits stored on the DVD that is the meat of the product. People need to think like a game developer / publisher and they will see how silly their arguments are.

Your opinion is not the only one. Your idea of how the world should be like is not the right one. No single idea is. You need to work together with other people. Together we will be right. Live in harmony!

There are lots of different people out there. Some people like digital distribution, some people don't like it.
Some people go retail because they don't have fast no-caps internet. There are a lot of bad ISPs out in the world.
kempez 9th July 2008, 19:11 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saivert
Software can never be equal to physical objects. Even if you buy the game retail it's still just bits stored on the DVD that is the meat of the product. People need to think like a game developer / publisher and they will see how silly their arguments are.

Your opinion is not the only one. Your idea of how the world should be like is not the right one. No single idea is. You need to work together with other people. Together we will be right. Live in harmony!

There are lots of different people out there. Some people like digital distribution, some people don't like it.
Some people go retail because they don't have fast no-caps internet. There are a lot of bad ISPs out in the world.

Just read this and was wondering who you were aiming at and if you were high at the time. If it was me I said I like having a physical DVD on the shelf and wasn't thrusting my opinion on anyone else. If not, then ye of course it's just 1's and 0's burned into a disc layer, but I personally (along with quite a few others) like seeing em there :D

Digital distribution has it's place, but it's not the be all and end all that people seem to think it is

Yet at least. Maybe one day we'll have decent net speeds in the UK and no DRM :p
Liquid K9 9th July 2008, 20:01 Quote
heres my argument for the faboys of digital distribution mentality:

if everything is digital, if we can buy, recieve, and take part in everything we want or need - what kind of world does that make it, and do you think you would really be a part of it, or would it merely be watching shadows on a cave wall? (bonus points for the reference)

look, digital distribution is fantastic - I love the fact that if i want, i can buy a game right off of steam or whatever when i feel like getting a fix. However, I also like retail stores, I like being able to go out, and rummage through the bargain bins trying to find something good, talking to the staff - getting a bit of advice, and even just having a reason to leave the computer for a couple hours. Digital distribution, as good as it may be is not so grand as to uproot all retail chains, thats just folly. Anyone who is just going to assume that while they like sitting on they're arse more than seeing and interacting with real people - even if it costs a small amount extra, that everyone in the world is like that, is just dilluded. im sorry.

there will *always* be people who want to touch what they're buying.

My point is this: digital distribution good. but not everyone likes the inhumanity of the experience. if that makes any sense. How else do you explain book stores still being alive after 10 or so years of amazon and its dopplegangers, or auction houses even though ebay and the likes are "better".

Edit:
back on topic for a second here; im all for Game supporting indie developers, good on them i say. honestly i dont give a rats about publishers getting pissy, the likes of EA are starting to look an awful lot like the RIAA to me - and boy is that not a good thing!
Cthippo 10th July 2008, 05:13 Quote
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Originally Posted by Liquid K9
Anyone who is just going to assume that while they like sitting on they're arse more than seeing and interacting with real people - even if it costs a small amount extra, that everyone in the world is like that, is just dilluded. im sorry.

What's this 'real people" thing i keep hearing about and why would i want to deal with some of them? :?
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