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Majestic Studios stealing assets from Oblivion?

Majestic Studios stealing assets from Oblivion?

Sure, it looks like Oblivion - but this is actually Majestic's Limbo of The Lost.

Borrowing, expanding or adapting ideas from other already existing games? That, we can understand. It's natural for a creative industry to share ideas and try new things by changing old things. Even games like Metal Gear Solid 4, which everyone think is new and massively innovative, is standing on the shoulders of games like Thief and Hunter.

Stealing whole sections of a game and blatantly using them to replace your own content? That's a bit risky. And illegal.

Yet, it appears that that is what Majestic Studios has done with it's point and click adventure game Limbo of The Lost, which appears to have lifted settings from Bethesda's Oblivion and Morrowind games, as well as Thief: Deadly Shadows and Silent Hill.

The funny thing is though that the game has actually been around for a while and was originally released in Asia during November last year, though the game is only now getting a North American release through publisher Tri Synergy.

Limbo of The Lost is now in a fair ol' heap of trouble, obviously. The US publisher for the game has announced that it is dropping the title and that it had no idea of the problems, while Bethesda is bring the lawyers out to tear the game to shreds.

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freedom810 12th June 2008, 10:56 Quote
Well Bethesda is based in England so guess who ill be backing.
Paradigm Shifter 12th June 2008, 11:18 Quote
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Even games like Metal Gear Solid 4, which everyone think is new and massively innovative, is standing on the shoulders of games like Thief and Hunter.
What about the original Metal Gear? Wasn't that on the NES or something? :)
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Well Bethesda is based in England so guess who ill be backing.
I thought they were based in Maryland? In the States.

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Anyway, didn't we have this furore with Stalker with respect to Doom 3?
Leitchy 12th June 2008, 11:41 Quote
Its ok, they've changed the colour of the books in the bookcases in the backdrop!
Veles 12th June 2008, 11:52 Quote
I thought Bethesda were based in Bethesda in the US?
Kúsař 12th June 2008, 11:53 Quote
But they have even changed cursor! ... :D
Bauul 12th June 2008, 12:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter


Anyway, didn't we have this furore with Stalker with respect to Doom 3?

Yes, but it turned out the assets were public ones that both games had legitmatly purchased and used. They were really boring things like light textures, so fair enough. This is a bit more serious though.

Whilst I've never done anything so totally blatent, when I used to make maps for Quake 3 and Doom 3, every single one of my ideas was based on something that already existed, I just found it easier, lol.
wuyanxu 12th June 2008, 12:30 Quote
wow! the whole screenshot looks like Oblivion!

they are in heaps and heaps of trouble.
Fod 12th June 2008, 12:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul

Whilst I've never done anything so totally blatent, when I used to make maps for Quake 3 and Doom 3, every single one of my ideas was based on something that already existed, I just found it easier, lol.

i believe that's called creative re-licensing - every artist and designer does it.
Paradigm Shifter 12th June 2008, 13:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bauul
Yes, but it turned out the assets were public ones that both games had legitimately purchased and used. They were really boring things like light textures, so fair enough. This is a bit more serious though.

Went and found out more about this after I posted, and... wow... they've ripped stuff out of loads of games... I think that dev house is going to die due to sheer pressure of litigation. Or will they find a scapegoat to blame all of it on?
specofdust 12th June 2008, 14:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by freedom810
Well Bethesda is based in England so guess who ill be backing.

Wrong on two levels.
CardJoe 12th June 2008, 15:34 Quote
Rock Paper Shotgun have got a detailed look at this, including some hilarious trailers from the game for whoever is interested:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1903
Tulatin 12th June 2008, 15:48 Quote
Bra-****ing-vo. At least the Thief III library shelves had signs added. They should have just cut their losses and done something like Thief 4: Baldur's Diablo taking painkillers from the Crysis of Bioshock in Castle Wolfenstien 2004 WITH Cranny Faggot!
Jamie 12th June 2008, 15:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by Kúsař
But they have even changed cursor! ... :D

I think they also stole the cursor from somewhere XD
E.E.L. Ambiense 12th June 2008, 15:50 Quote
LOL. That was good stuff. Thanks for the link, Joe. :)
liratheal 12th June 2008, 16:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter
What about the original Metal Gear? Wasn't that on the NES or something? :)

MSX2 was the first one, June or July of 1987, NES did see it in December, though.

On topic: Yeah, I've cheated in a test. But I balanced that out by falling asleep in one, passing out in another, and outright not going to another one.
salesman 12th June 2008, 16:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
Rock Paper Shotgun have got a detailed look at this, including some hilarious trailers from the game for whoever is interested:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?p=1903

Looks like Nosteratu has made an appearance in the game.
bahgger 12th June 2008, 16:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jamie
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Originally Posted by Kúsař
But they have even changed cursor! ... :D

I think they also stole the cursor from somewhere XD

I'm actually going to make a formal complaint to commence legal action as I believe the cursor used is actually derived from my work!!
Bauul 12th June 2008, 18:27 Quote
There's a pretty substantial debate on this over at http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310683, give it a read, it's brilliant!
mikeuk2004 12th June 2008, 18:54 Quote
mmm its missed its release date on play.com because its still on pre-order dated 06/06/08 lol

http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/877345/-/Product.html?searchstring=Limbo+Of+The+Lost&searchsource=0

Got to say that the game trailers dont do it any justice, the game looks pants even though it has cheated and ripped people off.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34863.html
johnmustrule 12th June 2008, 19:16 Quote
All I see in that pic is a counter top in a medieval setting, I'm pretty sure Bethesda wasn't first to the plate with that.
mikeuk2004 12th June 2008, 20:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by johnmustrule
All I see in that pic is a counter top in a medieval setting, I'm pretty sure Bethesda wasn't first to the plate with that.

Limbo Of The Lost

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/june08/limbo1-limbo.jpg

Oblivion

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/june08/limbo1-oblivion.jpg
E.E.L. Ambiense 12th June 2008, 20:14 Quote
LOL. Kind of like the whole "pink elephant in the living room" thing. :)
Soulmage 13th June 2008, 01:19 Quote
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"... while Bethesda is bring the lawyers out to tear the game to shreds. "

Erm ... Bring"ing" maybe? :P
B3CK 13th June 2008, 04:41 Quote
Why write a new script when one is already out there,, just modify it a little to make it yours.
Why re-invent the wheel when you can steal Fred's Flintstonemobile when he isn't looking.

On a side note, wouldn't they also get in trouble for de-compiling the other programs to tear out the textures and objects?
Thacrudd 13th June 2008, 14:52 Quote
Blasphemy! Off with their head! How dare they do such a thing to Bethesda! I hope they sue the pants off of them and put it towards another Elder Scrolls game.
Bladestorm 13th June 2008, 15:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by B3CK
Why write a new script when one is already out there,, just modify it a little to make it yours.
Why re-invent the wheel when you can steal Fred's Flintstonemobile when he isn't looking.

On a side note, wouldn't they also get in trouble for de-compiling the other programs to tear out the textures and objects?

It seems it uses 2D backdrops, so they've basically just gone around using screenshots from other games instead of making there own (and drawing over them slightly here and there)
LordPyrinc 14th June 2008, 01:40 Quote
Wow.. that screen capture comparison says it all. It's pretty damning. Clearly this company ripped off Bethesda.
Amon 14th June 2008, 04:26 Quote
Hilarious.
g3n3tiX 14th June 2008, 13:11 Quote
The cursor is ripped off Dungeon Keeper...
This can't be a real game. It must be a hoax. But it isn't.
breakspirit 15th June 2008, 12:43 Quote
Yeah, it's hard to say MGS4 borrows anything from any games when the original Metal Gear was on the MSX like 20 years ago and basically invented its genre. Each new MGS is full of innovation, including the newest one, but I can see your point about lots of games borrowing heavily from their contemporaries. But, that's true for movies, books, etc as well.
Dreaming 16th June 2008, 02:41 Quote
lol...

Gordon: So have any more recent games influenced your current project?

Steve: The project is more influenced by film and literature rather than other games, we want the experience to be as original as possible and as such we have made a calculated effort to keep away from other games in the genre. Limbo of the Lost is an experience first and foremost, secondly wrapped up in a game media and genre.

http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=795

Just doing some google searches on the 'level designer'

Just looking at other threads on the internet, there is a good one here: http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=310683 where they are dissecting it and virtually everything is ripped from somewhere or other, people are even speculating it's a hoax..
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