Matt Damon wanted Myst-like Bourne Game
Matt Damon apparently wanted the Bourne game to be more of a Myst-clone. Why? We don't know either.
"Matt and I don't share the same views about violence in adult films, but we do see eye-to-eye on the importance of protecting children," said Mrs Damon when questioned. "We both support regulations to stop the marketing of violence in films to children through violent toys, products, and video games."
Yeah, it does seem a bit of a double-standard to associate yourself with violence in one medium but not the other, doesn't it?
Delving a little deeper though MTV found that actually the main reason he decided not to work on the game wasn't because of the violence, but because he thought the action genre wasn't a good match for the franchise. He wanted something a little more puzzle-y.
"I lobbied hard [with the video producers] to not make a first-person shooter game but to make it more like Myst," said Damon. "You know, to play with his amnesia or his memory... They weren't interested."
Hardly a surprise, but it's at least nice to hear that Damon was trying to actively get involved in the development of the game. Or is it? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.
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hehe, sorry couldn't resist the jab!
at the end of the day, I don't really expect any film actor/producer to haver that big an impact on the way a game is made. they're in the film industry, not the game industry. they may overlap, they may share similarities but require completely different expertise. but hey, Matt, nice to see you've got good opinions about the violence in games not being presented to kids. shame it clashes with your film ethics. good effort, fag.
typical joe martin again.
i COMPLETELY disagree. his films are hardly marketed at children, whereas the games could quite possibly be. you're the most biased "journalist" ever with a narrow minded hippy view. hardly good reporting.
i for one, would probably play the game because i though the myst series was GREAT.
Making a bourne adventure game wouldn't really work, I mean, you have to have action Somewhere in a bourne storyline. Combining the two game types would be kinda jarring. Hmm.
I think the more puzzle-y game might have been more interesting.
Something along the lines of splinter cell might have been good?
Still, even if it is an FPS, they may still have the sense to include a really good story etc instead of another tired movie-tie-in rip-off. :(
Ok, joe ain't my favorite writer either, but I think you're missing the point.... there was a bit of sarcasm there....
Also I feel the point was that it wasn't going to be anything like Myst? Kinda like saying im TOALLY going to eat that apple.... because I think bananas are really cool.
Sorry. I feel my point stands though, without having to get too deep into it. The game is marketed to adults, just like the film, but what his mother seems to have implied is that Matt believes violence in films is fine, while violence in games is deplorable. For a man that actually made an action film, that is a bit of a double standard no matter how you look at that. Sure, you can say that kids would likely buy this game - but that's mooted by the fact that kids would likely see the film too. All I was doing was pointing out that if a man is going to put his face to a violent film character, it's odd that he wouldn't want to put his face to the same character in a game. I've edited the article to make this idea more clearly stated.
I actually think his idea for the game sounds good too, but I don't think it would have sold. Mass audiences wouldn't buy it.
And I'd go as far as point out that considering someone a hippy on the basis of the above point is hardly fair and is, in fact, a tad narrow-minded in itself.
I've no problem with criticism, and indeed welcome anyone to contact me directly with feedback, but at least make sure that feedback is constructive and non-inflammatory. And properly punctuated too, please.
So:
Bad:
Joe SUXORS!!1!!!
Bit better:
Joe, you suck!
Bit better still:
Joe, I'm afraid that I believe you suck, and this doesn't sit well with me at all
Perfect:
Joe, I'm afraid that your sucking is, personally for me, an undesirable quality, and I would much prefer it if you would, and I speak only for myself here, cease your sucking. If you could instead actually blow more often, if it's not too much trouble, that'd be really beneficial to my happiness. Thank you
My point is, Joe, just like the rest of the writers at this site, work their butts off to bring us good content and reviews. No one is forcing Bit down your throats. No one is forcing you to log in and post a comment. If you don't like the site, find another, or another. The internet is a big place.
You say Joe is bias but I read an article here or somewhere where a reviewer is always a bit biased because a video game is a subjective experience. And Joe is usually up front in his reviews saying things like "well this isn't my type of game but..." and sometimes even he is surprised how much he likes the game.
Think you can do a better job reviewing or writing articles? Apply to write for Bit. Or any other site, or start your own. But for bloody sake, don't sh*t in Bit's yard with flaming comments that are nothing better then childish abuse. You have every right to voice your oppinion but you don't have every to insult his character.
I mean seriously:
What the ****!
1) "Typical Joe Martin again." - This right off the bat implies that anything following is probably going to be close minded.
2) "You're the most biased 'journalist' ever..." - Most of Joe's work is a constructed subjective opinion modified into an analyse that the public can digest. Its his friggin' job. If you don't like his work, don't read it. And certainly don't b*tch in such a manner. This is miles away from constructive feedback.
3) "...ever with a narrow minded hippy view." - I can't break down all the things wrong with that but lets start with: I have friends' parents who are/were hippies. One is a very successful lawyer. One teaches Wicca. In their time, Hippies (some/most) were rallying for peace and an end to a senseless war. They saw the future more clearly then the politicians at the time. (Which kinda makes us the new Hippie-generation; but that's a conversation for another time.) In fact the only narrowminded thing I can think of is your sentence itself.
4) "Hardly good reporting." - This explains Soooo much. Refer to #2 for more.
5) "I for one would..." (et all) - This is the closest thing to a competent sentence that you wrote. Good job.
Oh and for the record. Who the hell thinks its a smart time to flame an Admin/Moderator/Author of a site ON their site ON A THREAD THEY JUST POSTED IN. You don't do that. Its not civil, its not smart, and it SHOULD get you banned.
No one's perfect. If you disagree with a review or an article you should have the right to say something. But to say something INTELLGENTLY.
@On-Topic
I like action games, and I like puzzles. I have never played Myst, but who says they have to be mutually exclusive. You could blend it like Max Payne's dream scenes, hazy flash backs between levels, or any other of a dozen ways. I agree that its a bit of a double standard to say: "I hate violence in games; but i'll shoot everyone in this movie." I mean reverse that: Let's say they made a Max Payne movie but instead it was a Love-Drama with almost no guns. That would be retarded, right? Same deal here. I like his idea, but his logic is flawed. There's ratings on Movies and there's ratings on Games. Kids will still see what kids want to see. This marks the first time that I recall an actor talking about video games since Vin Disiel. I see this as a good thing.
P.S. - Any typos are blamed on this craptop's IE6. I am way too dependant on Firefox's spell check. And to all the intellgent respectful members of Bit: Thank you for making this place all that it is, and to all the Bit Staff: Keep up the amazing work. ;)
/off topic, Personally don't see the problem with the article.
Faulk_Wulf and CardJoe, sitting in a tree....
:D
From this post, we can clearly establish that you have either confused yourself with other films, or infact haven't seen said films.
Yes a first person shooter based around The Bourne trilogy would suck, and making it more 'puzzley' would be good. However, insulting the Trilogy just isn't cool.
Anyway I see no reason why you could not merge action and myst.. could be quite cool.. I liked Myst!
I think you missed the boat entirely. I agree with Joe. And your disgreeing arguement is ammo enough to support the point Joe was making. It's hypocritical to think the same kids who could get ahold of an M rated game won't get into an R-Rated movie. You can't draw your arguement at "quite possibly be". They aren't plain and simple. You don't see GTA IV or God of War marketed to the children do you? Unless images of ingame play are enough to warrent the wow factor a child will get out of the commercial as advertisement to them specifically, I'm sure Matt Daemon's leaping through a window from the rooftop in the Bourne Ultimatum's trailer has the same effect on a youngster.
Yes indeed I did take it the wrong way and I apologise, sorry Joe, and sorry to all of bit-tech. I won't do it again. *slaps himself on the wrist*
Edit:
What I thought dearest Joe old buddy old pal meant, was that MD is a muppet for be anti a game that might sell because he wouldn't get equivalent royalties to a film from a game, so thereby declaring he would want it as a myst game, it wouldn't sell anyway and therefore no-one would get any royalties...
Firstly, the amount of times I have tried to make criticism of dearest Joe ole buddy ole pal's writing before is numerous and it never gets noticed or I have decided I can't really be bothered. And you wonder why I was a bit slapdash with typing and a bit hasty to respond when so many people get responses like this on this forum, hardly ****ing text typing was it? UGH!
Plus, if you are going to have the audacity, and even gall to have a go at my punctuation/grammar and so on, at least have the courtesy to spell properly too, else you haven't even half a leg to stand on bud, let alone two.
I pretty much agree with Faulk_Wulf's defense, keep up the good work bit :)
I don't think it does either. It doesn't seem to me like he's saying violence in films is fine but not in games. What I get from that quote is that he doesn't agree that there should be so much violence in something that a minor can get their hands on so easily.
If I remember right, the age ratings on films in America are just like ours, you have to be of the stated age (or over) to legally watch/buy the film. However, the games are just recommended ages, a baby can still technically go into a store and buy GTAIV.
haha :)
If I were Matt Damon, I wouldn't want my likeness tied to a game that really doesn't follow the flow of the movies either. Especially considering the success the franchise has had so far that spawning additional movies might be a possibility. I also agree that a more puzzle related/find clues type of game is a much better follow up to the movies. Some violence necessary, but not just the same old run around and shoot people crap.
Aye, it looks to be more of a Splinter Cell clone than anything else, which is never a bad thing.
then again, who's to say the article on quartertothree.com is right? they too are on the end of the 'telephone'
I think the article on quartertothree.com sums up my opinion and investigates the poor reporting very well. Reporting with assumptions...the bane of this world