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Nintendo: No new DS at E3

Nintendo: No new DS at E3

The new DS is just a concept right now - one which Nintendo isn't ready to unveil just yet.

Rumours have been circulating a lot over the past week that Nintendo, in an effort to dominate the hand-held market even more, would be unveiling a new, hi-res version of the Nintendo DS at E3 this year.

Well, sorry to rain on your parade, but Nintendo has now officially denied those rumours.

Issuing a statement to IGN about the claims, which had originated from the boss of Enterbrain, Hirokazu Hamamura, Nintendo confirmed that they have no plans to unveil a new model at E3. This is in line with previous statements the Japanese developer made that it would only think of releasing a new model once the current model stopped selling.

"We cannot comment on the specifics of what will be announced at E3, but at the very least there won't be anything like what Mr. Hamamura suggested, so would like to clearly deny this," said a Nintendo spokesperson. "We're having a hard time understanding what kind of evidence [Mr. Hamamura] had for saying this."

Note that the company hasn't rubbished the idea of a DS3 with hi-res graphics, a removed GBA slot and a larger screen though, all of which were presumed to be key features in the new model - Nintendo is just saying they aren't showing it off yet.

Which is your hand-held of choice? DS Lite? PSP? GP2x? Let us know in the forums.

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sunny_man 16th April 2008, 13:37 Quote
Do we need a new DS at the moment? I think a new DS should come out with Nintendo's next home games console. DS is too hot right now to knock it off. Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 I think will last longer that most other previous generations.
lewchenko 16th April 2008, 14:14 Quote
Nintendo doesnt do Hi-res anything! Maybe 2012... when everyone else has moved on to the next technology..

But its OK though.. .its all about the game play apparently ! MMMmmm Ok!

The reason I chose the PSP over the DS was a) adult games b) decent Hi-Res screen c) multimedia use.

Nintendo... Grow UP !
Jordan Wise 16th April 2008, 14:40 Quote
if they filled the top lid entirely with screen and had (for a change) a decent amount of power, and all wireless downloading games (think steam ds) onto inbuilt, upgradable ssd, it would be the first completely perfect product ever made
knowyourenemy 16th April 2008, 14:43 Quote
lewchenko: ME WANT ADULT GAMES TOO. :D:DD:D:D:D:DDD:D:D I WAS NOT AWARE SONY CATERED TO THIS MARKET
CardJoe 16th April 2008, 14:44 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jordan Wise
if they filled the top lid entirely with screen and had (for a change) a decent amount of power, and all wireless downloading games (think steam ds) onto inbuilt, upgradable ssd, it would be the first completely perfect product ever made

You just described this pretty much. It runs Linux too.
http://openpandora.org/
Nexxo 16th April 2008, 15:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by lewchenko
But its OK though.. .its all about the game play apparently ! MMMmmm Ok!
It is, actually. Which is why retro-arcade games are still a popular market. Which is why the Nintendos outsell the PlayStations and XBoxes by the order of tens of millions.
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Originally Posted by lewchenko
The reason I chose the PSP over the DS was a) adult games b) decent Hi-Res screen c) multimedia use.

Nintendo... Grow UP !
This coming from a guy discussing games, right? :)
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Originally Posted by knowyourenemy
lewchenko: ME WANT ADULT GAMES TOO. :D:DD:D:D:D:DDD:D:D I WAS NOT AWARE SONY CATERED TO THIS MARKET
I lol'd. :)
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
You just described this pretty much. It runs Linux too.
http://openpandora.org/

Tasty!
SNIPERMikeUK 16th April 2008, 15:03 Quote
The only thing Nintendo need to do right now with the DS is make more games for it, the Wii appears to be taking up a lot of their time right now with its success, the hardware is a mere £99 quid.
Making it by far the best handheld (personally the PSP has never interested me), I personally would like to see a kind of Mario Allstars on the DS or a Remastered Compilation of mario nes and snes games or even a NEW Super Mario Bros. 2.
Jordan Wise 16th April 2008, 16:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe

You just described this pretty much. It runs Linux too.
http://openpandora.org/

that looks awesome, but i'm guessing by the name its all open source, which i love and all but is it going to get the attention of major developers?
Major 16th April 2008, 17:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by SNIPERMikeUK
The only thing Nintendo need to do right now with the DS is make more games for it, the Wii appears to be taking up a lot of their time right now with its success, the hardware is a mere £99 quid.
Making it by far the best handheld (personally the PSP has never interested me), I personally would like to see a kind of Mario Allstars on the DS or a Remastered Compilation of mario nes and snes games or even a NEW Super Mario Bros. 2.

They have hundreds of games out, by so few decent games available.

Contra 4 keeping me busy, heh.
CardJoe 16th April 2008, 18:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Jordan Wise
that looks awesome, but i'm guessing by the name its all open source, which i love and all but is it going to get the attention of major developers?

Doesn't need major developers - its a succesor to the GP2X which has a thriving homebrew scene and inbuilt emulation for a ****ton of systems. Here's a handful of early examples for the GP2x -http://www.pdroms.de/files/gp2x/
willyolio 16th April 2008, 19:10 Quote
seriously, how many iterations of the game boy were there?

the DS is going to lose its GBA slot first. maybe a few more metallic colours. then maybe make the hinge smaller and the screens closer together. then possibly a higher-res screen.

i laugh at that render. it's completely unlike anything nintendo would do- change the screen aspect ratio and make the 2 screens different sizes. made by a fanboy who doesn't even know his own beloved company at all.
docodine 16th April 2008, 23:49 Quote
I would hate for the DS to lose its GBA slot. If they built a rumble pack into the thing, I might excuse them, but I love having the option to load two games into a Gameboy. Legend of Zelda: Four Swords + Mario Cart DS = Greatness.

Oh, and about that mockup picture. Why is that even up? Different size screens? How badly would that kill backwards compatibility with 'old' DS games?
r4tch3t 17th April 2008, 04:14 Quote
Different screen size wouldn't do much, just like having a widescreen TV doesn't kill your old media that was 4:3, you will just have black bars.

For me I am getting a PSP, more useful to me. I have never really been into Nintendo games that much.
willyolio 17th April 2008, 07:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by r4tch3t
Different screen size wouldn't do much, just like having a widescreen TV doesn't kill your old media that was 4:3, you will just have black bars.
it increases cost for a feature nobody will use. the DS already has a huge library, not to mention the entire GBA library as well which will have black bars. any developer who wanted to actually use the extra space will now have a game that's incompatible with the 100 million DSes that have already been sold.

in short, it's a stupid idea.
r4tch3t 17th April 2008, 09:25 Quote
What about wide screen monitors and CRTs, games still work on both.
Woodstock 17th April 2008, 12:57 Quote
i was tempted to get a ds soonish (read want, more money need), but that open pandora looks intersting, you got one joe? any chance of you doing a review of the unit and/or some of games available/ in development? only thing is that zelda wont be on it :(
CardJoe 17th April 2008, 13:46 Quote
The OpenPandora isn't out yet, but I'll be taking a look when it is. You could of course emulate old Zelda games - the site even hints N64 emulation is possible.
Woodstock 17th April 2008, 14:08 Quote
guess i should have looked at the Q & A, wont have phantom hourglass thou (at least not for quite some time)
steveo_mcg 17th April 2008, 14:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by CardJoe
You just described this pretty much. It runs Linux too.
http://openpandora.org/

want
CardJoe 17th April 2008, 14:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Woodstock
guess i should have looked at the Q & A, wont have phantom hourglass thou (at least not for quite some time)

I'm sure there's a Linux version of ideaDS emulator, chuck a ROM in that and go go go
completemadness 17th April 2008, 20:04 Quote
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Originally Posted by willyolio
it increases cost for a feature nobody will use. the DS already has a huge library, not to mention the entire GBA library as well which will have black bars. any developer who wanted to actually use the extra space will now have a game that's incompatible with the 100 million DSes that have already been sold.

in short, it's a stupid idea.
Stuff moves on

Why do you think people bought the 360 when they had an xbox? or a ps3 when they had a ps2 (or from ps1 to ps2)

Eventually the DS will have to evolve, and a bigger screen is a nice way to do it, as long as your new DS works with old DS games (even with black bars) its not really hurt you - that will then give you access to the newer games that would inevitably come out
Woodstock 17th April 2008, 21:29 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by CardJoe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodstock
guess i should have looked at the Q & A, wont have phantom hourglass thou (at least not for quite some time)

I'm sure there's a Linux version of ideaDS emulator, chuck a ROM in that and go go go

wow im surprissed that there are DS emulators, so they normally bypass the touch screen somehow? i think my minds set it would take them something big to make me not want it now :)
Woodstock 17th April 2008, 21:36 Quote
now this damm cool
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Originally Posted by openpandora, FAQ
Why doesn't it have Bluetooth / WiMax / GPS / accelerometers / etc?

We had to draw the line somewhere. Adding any more features would have increased the price. Luckily Pandora has a fully functional USB host port, two SD slots with SDIO capability, and a serial UART for adding whatever additional widgets you want. Solder pads were designed into the PCB for "hacking" in extra internal hardware.
willyolio 18th April 2008, 08:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by completemadness
Eventually the DS will have to evolve, and a bigger screen is a nice way to do it, as long as your new DS works with old DS games (even with black bars) its not really hurt you - that will then give you access to the newer games that would inevitably come out
eventually? yes, of course. nintendo isn't going to keep selling the same DS in 2020. but while the DS is still the #1 selling console on the market? no way in hell.

if a widescreen DS is coming, my bets are that it will be at least 5 years away. we'll see a bunch of new colours and an extra-slim version before that, as well.

as for the xbox360 and PS3, it has widescreen support because microsoft and sony were pushing high-res gameplay. they spent millions advertising how powerful their systems were. did you see some advertisement like that for the DS that made you think nintendo was also trying to do the same thing?
CardJoe 18th April 2008, 10:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodstock
wow im surprissed that there are DS emulators, so they normally bypass the touch screen somehow? i think my minds set it would take them something big to make me not want it now :)

Never tried one myself as I have a real DS, but they are out there. I think you just use the mouse as a replacement for the touchcreen.
completemadness 18th April 2008, 10:27 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by willyolio
eventually? yes, of course. nintendo isn't going to keep selling the same DS in 2020. but while the DS is still the #1 selling console on the market? no way in hell.

if a widescreen DS is coming, my bets are that it will be at least 5 years away. we'll see a bunch of new colours and an extra-slim version before that, as well.

as for the xbox360 and PS3, it has widescreen support because microsoft and sony were pushing high-res gameplay. they spent millions advertising how powerful their systems were. did you see some advertisement like that for the DS that made you think nintendo was also trying to do the same thing?
Nintendo will start selling a new DS when they feel that the old one is outlived

Even if they start selling a new version, developers are still free to program for the old DS, when enough people have the new one, developers will start to switch
The same sort of thing happens with every new console, its why backwards compatibility is important

I suspect Nintendo is working on a new DS, it may not be out really soon, but its coming
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