bit-tech.net | THQ abandons Frontlines PS3, Juiced, Stuntman

outlawaol 25th January 2008, 09:10

heh... sounds like one of the death tolls for the PS3.... and here I was debating on whether to buy one... phsshh...

rhuitron 25th January 2008, 09:17

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BigD79 25th January 2008, 09:25

That sucks. I was looking forward to that on PS3.
With PS3 sales getting a recent sales boost every where after the recent price changes I'd have thought THQ should have stuck with the new IP. Suppose there a number of shooters coming out soon. Fair enough Stuntman has definitely gone down hill in recent releases and Juiced has stiff competition. But the article says even PS2 titles have been canned.

mmorgue 25th January 2008, 09:38

I certainly wouldn't count "Stuntman" and "Juiced" as one of the "death tolls" of the PS3 -- they certainly aren't the 2 games keeping the system alive!

I found both of those games to be very uninspiring -- nothing more than something to watch on the screens in the local game shop as an eye-grabber. I'd never buy them.

And besides, we're still really only seeing the end of first gen games for the PS3 -- the console has loads of potential and we're going to start seeing this year.

tzang 25th January 2008, 10:09

At the rate this is going, my PS3 will probably rust before it sees another new title. That takes into consideration that I own nearly all the available titles, bought everything from the PSN UK store (including all those Folklore packs ) and obtained the latest demos from other countries... now I have run out of things to play on the PS3.

I can't see why THQ is pulling out specifically on the PS3 but it is starting to sum up the only reason for the PS3's existence. MGS4, GTA4, DMC4, GT5, RE5, FFXIII, Tekken 6... these are well known titles and are quite literally the titles that the PS3 is trying to cash on, especially for the fanboys.

All this talk about how the PS3 will be great, I agree with its potential but the PS3 simply lacks the games to back it up. The outlook for PS3 releases is looking rather bleak but consoles like the XBox 360 is still growing strong.

cjoyce1980 25th January 2008, 10:11

they have built a machine which its just as same as the sega saturn, which they crushed in the 90's.

Overpriced, difficult to write good code for, not enuff support from the sony development staff......and buy the time some developer get good and coding for the PS3 developers cancel the PS3 verison. If they spend more time with these type of developers than messing with the unreal 3 engine for 2 years then maybe this wouldnt happen.

so in about 2-3 years time, when the next xbox is due, only expect first party title to be available on the PS3.

DXR_13KE 25th January 2008, 10:58

they are simply run of the mill games.... nothing special or incredible..... they wont make the console sell less or more.....

mikeuk2004 25th January 2008, 12:11

THQ make some of the worst games out there. I think its great they canned those games, lets face it, they are pants, and there are much better titles out there.

themax 25th January 2008, 13:14

People were looking for Frontlines for PS3? I'm more interested in Killzone 2 and Resistance 2. So 1 game is canned for the PS3, 1 game that up to this point, hasn't had very much, or very good press to begin with. Hardly a loss for the PS3
with much stronger FPS's both available now, and coming soon (Haze if it stops getting delayed haha, Resistance 2, and Killzone 2).

devdevil85 25th January 2008, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Article
THQ admits that the Juiced and Stuntman franchises were underperforming on both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

I don't see the PS3 alone on these titles...

PS3/Sony haters can say what they want, but these games (including from what I know of Frontlines) weren't going to be anything special (considering what titles will be coming out by Spring) and were only going to be games you find for $25-30 used 2 months after they come out because they offered nothing over what would've been released on both systems by the time they debuted....

How is this announcement being taken as such a "huge loss/blow" to the PS3? Ridiculous IMO considering what lies ahead in terms of upcoming titles.....

liratheal 25th January 2008, 16:29

I'd not call any of this news story a death toll for the PS3.

The absolute lack of a good library of games is a death toll, yes, but not THQ canning a couple of crappy game series and Frontlines.

Frontlines is enjoyable, but bugger all different to BF2, so eh. Can live without it, in all honesty.

I don't think this is going to affect the PS3 sales, but I find it hard to expect that any title is going to remain exclusive to the PS3, and I believe that's the biggest kicker for it, since the exclusive games are few, far between, and some are really, really bad.

E.E.L. Ambiense 25th January 2008, 17:27

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Wow. A relevant post for relevant reason. :|

Anyways, it's a shame but meh. Nothing to worry about I'd think.

Cadillac Ferd 25th January 2008, 22:31

All three of the games that got canned are fairly bland/blah franchises anyways. If anything PS3 owners should be happy that their system was spared three games they weren't going to play which allows THQ to spend more of their resources on better projects for the PS3.

Joeymac 26th January 2008, 01:09

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Originally Posted by tzang

MGS4, GTA4, DMC4, GT5, RE5, FFXIII, Tekken 6... these are well known titles and are quite literally the titles that the PS3 is trying to cash on, especially for the fanboys.

GTA4, DMC4, RE5 are on the 360 as well. So that would leave MGS4, GT5, FFXIII and Tekken 6 for Sony to capitalise on.

For me personally, I would get a PS3 (had a 1 and 2).. but I just can't justify it. The 360 was easy as there was a load of games that interested me. Drake's fortune doesn't appeal.. kill zone 2 looks cool with stuff flying everywhere, but it's not doing it for me KZ 1 was yawnworthy. The last tekken I got was tekken 2. Grown out of fighting games.
Of the exclusive ones you listed.. only GT5 interests me because of the Top Gear test track. MGS4 is a "maybe". It would have to be universally lorded as the best game ever for me to get it. Not a game I would pre-order.
A Blu-Ray player to go with my HD DVD player would be a good idea at this point.. but they are region locked and the UK Blu-Ray prices are utterly ridiculous (Lost season 3 is locked.. clearly they don't want my money!.. very strange).

Then there's the price... UK customers are charged double the US customers are.. no 80gig version. and finally they crippled the system so I can't even dust off my PS1/2 games which sit waiting.

You've just got to wonder whether they want us to buy it at all.

Bladestorm 26th January 2008, 03:19

I think if it tells us anything, its that THQ feels in this instance at least, the extra costs for developing a version for the PS3 (Or for all we know, extra costs involved in getting it working well on PSN or both) would outweigh the profits that might be made releasing on the platform.

Not neccessarily anything to get worked up on its own but it also might just be indicative of a trend we might not otherwise hear much about.

Amon 26th January 2008, 05:33

Pretty sh*tty. I somewhat enjoyed the original Juiced and was excited to play Juiced 2 since ProStreet was so pathetically underwhelming. Anyways, I'd still lay down the bills for an 80GB unit once the new Turismo ships.

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Overpriced

I've grown tired of people moaning about the PlayStation 3's price. For a black box that, effectively, does everything your entire home entertainment and PC (with Linux) will do, I find it to be a bargain. For example, say you moved into a new flat, but only needed to bring your PS3 and a tele because your entire digital life entertainment is in that ~~game~~ entertainment console.

Joeymac 26th January 2008, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Amon

I've grown tired of people moaning about the PlayStation 3's price. For a black box that, effectively, does everything your entire home entertainment and PC (with Linux) will do, I find it to be a bargain. For example, say you moved into a new flat, but only needed to bring your PS3 and a tele because your entire digital life entertainment is in that ~~game~~ entertainment console.

Would you still think it was a good price if the cheapest you could get the 40GB version was £300? That's why people here are moaning.

leexgx 26th January 2008, 11:31

works well for me just drop an bigger hdd in it if you use it or just use TVersity

JulsTheJackal 26th January 2008, 16:01

the real reason why THQ cancelled the ps3 of the game is due to the fact the this game is going to be a average. they are not going to spend cash (which they do not have at the moment) to make a average game for two systems. the "trashbox 360" version was more ahead in development and they just decided to drop it since they do not have the programming expertize to take advantage of the superior ps3 hardware.
as for all the ps3 trashing by the billy gates cronies, just remember to get your facts straight.

the xbox360 failure rate is over 37%, the ps3 is under 1%
the ps3 have 2x the power of the xbox360
the ps3 can play blue-ray movies (blue ray have won the format war, get over it now) the trasbox360 needs an add-on to play defunct HD-DVDs
Killzone 2, MetalGearSolid 4, Little Big Planet are so big that they need blue-ray disc space. if these game where going to be programmed for the trashbox360, they would need at least 2 discs
I could go on and on and but the consumer right now is slowing deciding who is winning. Most experts agree that the PS3 will overtake the xbox360 in late 2009 or early 2010 by sales. With the price of the ps3 getting cheaper and cheaper and games getting better and better for the system, the ps3 will be the must have system.
also Halo 3 really sucked, i should know, i also have a xbox 360.

at the end of the day if THQ could have made better games to begin with, they would not be in the trouble they are now. they are just cuttting there loses since they know this game is going to such anyways, just read the reviews on the xbox-live downnload demo of it. I played it for a few hours and deleted it right away. just dont want any more trash on the hard-drive
lol

JulsTheJackal 26th January 2008, 16:02

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
the real reason why THQ cancelled the ps3 of the game is due to the fact the this game is going to be a average. they are not going to spend cash (which they do not have at the moment) to make a average game for two systems. the "trashbox 360" version was more ahead in development and they just decided to drop it since they do not have the programming expertize to take advantage of the superior ps3 hardware.
as for all the ps3 trashing by the billy gates cronies, just remember to get your facts straight.

the xbox360 failure rate is over 37%, the ps3 is under 1%
the ps3 have 2x the power of the xbox360
the ps3 can play blue-ray movies (blue ray have won the format war, get over it now) the trasbox360 needs an add-on to play defunct HD-DVDs
Killzone 2, MetalGearSolid 4, Little Big Planet are so big that they need blue-ray disc space. if these game where going to be programmed for the trashbox360, they would need at least 2 discs
I could go on and on and but the consumer right now is slowing deciding who is winning. Most experts agree that the PS3 will overtake the xbox360 in late 2009 or early 2010 by sales. With the price of the ps3 getting cheaper and cheaper and games getting better and better for the system, the ps3 will be the must have system.
also Halo 3 really sucked, i should know, i also have a xbox 360.

at the end of the day if THQ could have made better games to begin with, they would not be in the trouble they are now. they are just cuttting there loses since they know this game is going to suck anyways, just read the reviews on the xbox-live downnload demo of it. I played it for a few hours and deleted it right away. just dont want any more trash on the hard-drive
lol

CardJoe 26th January 2008, 17:01

cough.

fanboy

Cough.

Damn, I can never time those coughs right.

mrplow 26th January 2008, 17:16

UK:R will be happy

Bladestorm 26th January 2008, 22:04

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
the real reason why THQ cancelled the ps3 of the game is due to the fact the this game is going to be a average. they are not going to spend cash (which they do not have at the moment) to make a average game for two systems. the "trashbox 360" version was more ahead in development and they just decided to drop it since they do not have the programming expertize to take advantage of the superior ps3 hardware.

You work for THQ? thanks for coming over here to enlighten us :)

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
as for all the ps3 trashing by the billy gates cronies, just remember to get your facts straight.

I now have an image in my head of a herd of goats, one of them with what could probably be described as less than trendy glasses, running riot in my head! thanks for that ;)

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
the xbox360 failure rate is over 37%, the ps3 is under 1%

I've only seen a rate like that claimed by a single repair company, some time ago - If the rate overall was still 37%+ you wouldn't be able to move for the screaming I think.

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
the ps3 have 2x the power of the xbox360

The PS3 has something like twice the theoretical cpu power, while the 360 has more memory, a number of experienced developers have come out and said the overall usefull power they can leverage for a game is about the same.

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
the ps3 can play blue-ray movies (blue ray have won the format war, get over it now) the trasbox360 needs an add-on to play defunct HD-DVDs
Killzone 2, MetalGearSolid 4, Little Big Planet are so big that they need blue-ray disc space. if these game where going to be programmed for the trashbox360, they would need at least 2 discs

It isn't required to buy a HD-DVD drive for the 360 to do what its made for - play games, while it is required that a PS3 buyer spend the money for the blu-ray drive built into the system (even if it is heavily subsidized) and the only reason most blu-ray games wouldn't fit on one dvd is because it lets the developers save a small amount of time not compressing quite as much whilst giving sony's marketing department something to shout about even when it isn't really true. Even if games did have to fit on two DVD's, would it really be such a killer to swap a disc out halfway through a game ? at least if they are of any decent length anyway ;).

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
I could go on and on and but the consumer right now is slowing deciding who is winning.

Last I heard they were still buying more 360's, Wii's and DS's than PS3's ?

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
Most experts agree that the PS3 will overtake the xbox360 in late 2009 or early 2010 by sales.

So once the 360 has been out for 4-5 years and is likely in the process of being replaced by its successor the PS3 will overtake it in sales ? That doesn't seem like much of a talking point.

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
With the price of the ps3 getting cheaper and cheaper and games getting better and better for the system, the ps3 will be the must have system.

All things get cheaper over time, its hardly unique to the PS3 - and given where the PS3 started for games one can only hope they do get better :) but I don't know about a must have unless you are a huge fan of the four? five? truly exclusive franchises they still have.

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
also Halo 3 really sucked, i should know, i also have a xbox 360.

I salute your bravery sir, did you know there is apparently a one in three chance it will fail ?

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Originally Posted by JulsTheJackal
at the end of the day if THQ could have made better games to begin with, they would not be in the trouble they are now. they are just cuttting there loses since they know this game is going to such anyways, just read the reviews on the xbox-live downnload demo of it. I played it for a few hours and deleted it right away. just dont want any more trash on the hard-drive
lol

Good or bad, its still going to be developed and released for the 360 and PC but not the PS3, which still tells us something of the costs and returns expected of the various platforms (effectively counting the PS3 development and release as a loss to be cut in comparison)

noobarino 27th January 2008, 03:19

wow bladestorm just dominated everyone

Cthippo 28th January 2008, 06:25

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wow bladestorm just dominated everyone

No, just one annoying fanboi

Some day we should do the Bit-tech fanboi of the year awards. Or maybe "PS3 vs Xbox: Fanboi deathmatch!!!!"

I really need to go to bed

steveo_mcg 28th January 2008, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Cthippo

Or maybe "PS3 vs Xbox: Fanboi deathmatch!!!!"

Lets get it on!

/Celebrity deathmatch ref

DXR_13KE 28th January 2008, 12:36

Bladestorm pwnd JulsTheJackal with facts......

i want to add: the xbox360 will be able to play blueray disks..... just get the usb drive and plug it in :D

Tomm 23rd March 2008, 12:42

Is it just me, or have fanboy battles got worse recently? Anyone been to engadget recently? Trying and find a single item with no "Mac vs PC" argument in the comments is nigh-on impossible - even when the article is about something completely unrelated.

But we don't need it on these forums, please.

P.S. Xbox360 4 lyfe, ps3 suxxors etc

Cthippo 23rd March 2008, 20:56

I dunno, I haven't seen a good PC vs Apple arguement here in a while, and even the console wars seem to have diminshed recently. Is it just a few loud fanbois on the other site seeing everything through apple colored glasses?

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