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GameSpot officially comments on fired editor

GameSpot officially comments on fired editor

GameSpot allegedly fired Gerstmann over his review of Kane and Lynch: Dead Men.

The internet has been aflame with fury lately, with wrath falling equally on Eidos and GameSpot after it was alleged that pressure from Eidos over a review of Kane and Lynch lead to the firing of editor Jeff Gerstmann.

Speculation has been rampant since the rumour first started and Eidos, Gerstmann and GameSpot have all been either reluctant or unable to comment. Now, GameSpot has broken the silence and issued an official comment on the situation.

The comment once again denies the accusations that advertising pressure from Eidos lead to Gerstmann being fired - an opinion which is now being taken as fact by many readers regardless of the official position.

"Neither CNET Networks nor GameSpot has ever allowed its advertising business to affect its editorial content," said Greg Brannan, CNET Networks Entertainment's vice president of programming. "The accusations in the media that it has done so are unsubstantiated and untrue. Jeff's departure stemmed from internal reasons unrelated to any buyer of advertising on GameSpot."

"Though he will be missed by his colleagues, Jeff's leaving does not affect GameSpot's core mission of delivering the most timely news, video content, in-depth previews, and unbiased reviews in games journalism," said Ryan MacDonald, executive producer of GameSpot Live. "GameSpot is an institution, and its code of ethics and duty to its users remains unchanged."

Many readers remain unconvinced however and GameSpot has allegedly had to cope with mass subscription cancellations. What do you think though? Let us know in the forums.

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quack 4th December 2007, 10:44 Quote
On the one hand, better late than never to speak up, and on the other, the damage is done: GameSpot's reputation is shot.
cjoyce1980 4th December 2007, 10:48 Quote
like any real gamer is going to go to GameSpot of game reviews now!

if they do, just buy the games that not advertisted on there site..... logic would state that they are the bestest games.
Orca 4th December 2007, 10:50 Quote
I wonder what Gerstmann is going to do next.
ivanrlynn 4th December 2007, 10:58 Quote
I think he was very generous with his score of k & l, thank **** i rented it so glad i didn't buy this game, he shoulda got a promotion...
whisperwolf 4th December 2007, 11:26 Quote
It's their own non disclosure agreement that will stop whatever the thruth is about his leaving. they can't say if he left a giant turd on the MD's desk and he can't say he was booted for rubbishing advertisers games. Can't help but think that the removal of the video review, and lack of statement for 4 or so days helped gamespot though.
mikeuk2004 4th December 2007, 11:32 Quote
"Mass cancelation of subscriptions" They better hope the advertising covers that loss
Amon 4th December 2007, 11:41 Quote
I hate it when a rep or exec for some company quips, "Though he will be missed by his colleagues, Jeff's leaving does not affect GameSpot's core mission of delivering the most timely news, video content, in-depth previews, and unbiased reviews in games journalism."

... just shut the f**k up.
DeX 4th December 2007, 11:43 Quote
If the firing was completely unrelated to the review and their advertisers then why the hell didn't Gamespot issue this statement earlier instead of waiting for the speculation to spread and their reputation to deteriorate? I'm not usually this cynical but I just can't believe Brannan or MacDonald's statements.
DXR_13KE 4th December 2007, 12:09 Quote
i call BS......
[USRF]Obiwan 4th December 2007, 12:47 Quote
gametrailers.com over GameSpots subscribtions to watch gamer trailers any time!
themax 4th December 2007, 13:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by DeX
If the firing was completely unrelated to the review and their advertisers then why the hell didn't Gamespot issue this statement earlier instead of waiting for the speculation to spread and their reputation to deteriorate? I'm not usually this cynical but I just can't believe Brannan or MacDonald's statements.

Because the minute the news broke, everyone, including bit-tech was already of the opinion it was over the K&L review. Penny Arcade had a strip up a day (or two) later, and every blogger known to man who dabbles in video games had already taken the moral high ground of "Advertising Pressure doesn't affect my reviews". This is a no win situation for Gamespot, so wether they came out with it on day one, or 2 months later I highly doubt any of you would have believed them because they are a site that generates revenue and for the most part that is evil.
TreeDude 4th December 2007, 13:09 Quote
This says a lot about the other reviewers working for Gamespot. I know if I worked for a company who fired someone for that kind of reason I'd try and organize a strike or something. If his job could be lost for such a trivial reason, why couldn't it happen to the others? I would seriously question my job security.

We all knew GS would deny that it was the advertisers pressure that cost Jeff his job. There was no way they would admit to that. Not to mention that Jeff isn't allowed to disclose the reason he was fired for legal reasons. If the reason was as they say they would have let us hear it from his mouth, it would have had a far greater impact.

I'm happy to hear about the mass subscriptions. That will teach them to pull a stunt like that.
Redbeaver 4th December 2007, 13:47 Quote
meh... Gamespot's review never holds a candle in my book anyway...
LeMaltor 4th December 2007, 14:16 Quote
I thought they edited the review and removed his video review? And he wasnt fired because of this review? Come off it!
Cadillac Ferd 4th December 2007, 14:49 Quote
********.
Cadillac Ferd 4th December 2007, 14:51 Quote
That got censored? Well shame on me for quoting my favorite line from V for Vendetta... Anywho, I'm curious as to what this internal matter was that got him fired, correct me if I'm wrong but Gertsmann had been there for quite a number of years right? Seems odd that he got canned so quickly.
specofdust 4th December 2007, 15:34 Quote
It seems fairly likely to me that the guy did get fired for the bad review. But who's surprised? Gamespot have been rubbish for years.
Delphium 4th December 2007, 15:52 Quote
I tend to take all reviews from the Spot as a pinch a salt, now? Dont think ill even bother visiting them, plenty of other much more repectable sites to read from. It just seams a bit too hmmm, suspect?!!
Amon 4th December 2007, 16:12 Quote
And the fact that Gamespot outwardly described their reviewing process as "screening the reviews and comparing them with competitor reviews to sustain a level of consistency" as well as the much-discuss publisher influence on review communities. What happened to journalistic integrity?
Strages 4th December 2007, 16:58 Quote
Any game that can't spell "grab" correctly gets an instant 0 in my book. If the developers can't even take their time to check for spelling and grammar (and I'm not even addressing the fact that they should have spelled it right in the first place), imagine what the code must look like. I'm surprised it even works.

As far as Gertsmann getting fired for the review? If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, and walks like a duck.. it's probably a god damned duck. You'd think that Gamespot execs would be smart enough to figure out that firing the guy who reviewed K&L so soon after the review (and then editing the review and pulling the video review) would make it look like an awful big coincidence (see duck analogy above) to the public....but then again, the RIAA can't figure out that they need to stop treating customers like criminals, so maybe Gamespot execs just are that stupid.
Amon 4th December 2007, 17:20 Quote
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Originally Posted by Strages
Any game that can't spell "grab" correctly gets an instant 0 in my book. If the developers can't even take their time to check for spelling and grammar (and I'm not even addressing the fact that they should have spelled it right in the first place)
That's because they were already on cocaine :)
Jamie 4th December 2007, 17:46 Quote
If this had been the case from the start why did it take them so long to respond. I mean, if you're getting subscribers canceling left, right and centre and the media is reporting lies, you better get a press release out telling the 'truth' asap. A week later is too late to reverse the damage that's been done.

However, people will forget, googlers will continue to read, advertisers will continue to give them money. The only thing we can do is hope the general public vote with their mice and click elsewhere for their content.
jweller 4th December 2007, 17:47 Quote
I was pissed as well. But I have to keep reminding myself to be very skeptical of rumors. I try make sure rumors are backed up by credible proof and substantiation.
tornadolphin 4th December 2007, 21:00 Quote
Have you lot seen the tags on the original post at gamespot? I'll give you them here:
Quote:
Originally Posted by http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6183603.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title
bs bullshit cnet cnet sucks conspiracy controversy corporate corruption damage control editorial director eidos fired gamespot gerstmann jeff jeff gerstmann jeff gertsmann kane & lynch liars lies

:D:D:D
Joeymac 4th December 2007, 21:06 Quote
Yeah right Greg Brannan!
I've deleted my bookmark. I don't see a reason to go back.They might have not fired him for that and it WAS all bad timing.... but the internet is a big place. There are just too many other sites, like this one, which are less of a uncertainty.
What ever happened they handled it monumentally badly... that shows they either have no clue what's going, or are just inept.
Plus the canned "suite" response from Greg betrays them as asshats.
A candid "we ****ed up" response and maybe a video/podcast where they discus it would be a good idea. The big players in the incident need to get together on a TWIT (or game related podcast) that's neutral ground, state their case and try to save their reputation.
Carnival 4th December 2007, 21:36 Quote
Nice... they can tell us why he WASN'T fired, but legal constraints stop them from telling us why he was. Great. Thats really, really helpful.

As someone GS has stated: "What a wonderfully vague piece of journalism..."
tornadolphin 5th December 2007, 01:19 Quote
The problem is we will probably never know for certain why he was fired. All the clues point one way but its obvious that both Gertsmann and Gamespot have been tied into some sort of non-disclosure clause that means they both have to put up and shut up because of Cnet's stranglehold on the site.
ou7blaze 5th December 2007, 09:11 Quote
I remember Gamespot USED to be good a few years back but since then it has gone downhill.

Oh well money and greed ruins alot of things.

Ironically Gamespot has lost out big time both ways, it has lost one of their most senior editors and subsequently have also lost alot of advertising funding at the same time, double loss. Burn ...
ou7blaze 5th December 2007, 09:13 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tornadolphin
Have you lot seen the tags on the original post at gamespot? I'll give you them here:



:D:D:D

Lmao, how did you find that in the source code for the page?

Damage control, LOL.
Nictron 5th December 2007, 10:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by tornadolphin
Have you lot seen the tags on the original post at gamespot? I'll give you them here:



:D:D:D

That was great, now that is the invisible ink that just tells you the truth. LOL.
Stickeh 8th December 2007, 19:16 Quote
So where does everyone suggest getting game reviews?
Sparrowhawk 8th December 2007, 19:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by Stickeh
So where does everyone suggest getting game reviews?
Personally, I prefer getting mine here, and from Penny Arcade.
Amon 8th December 2007, 20:27 Quote
Electric Playground. They've been in the televised video game review service for 10 years. Their reviews of major titles are always done with two people with two unique opinions of the game. Sometimes I find their scores a little generous, but they are people who score big for innovation and uniqueness of the game experience.
CardJoe 9th December 2007, 17:36 Quote
Personally, I just use my own judgement, with smatterings of Trusted Reviews, PC Format and Eurogamer.
[USRF]Obiwan 10th December 2007, 09:44 Quote
I do my own reviewing, download demo, like it buy it, dont like it dont buy it. And of i am not sure, i go to user review sites. If 200 users say it sucks. It probably will.
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