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Men ashamed of casual gaming

Men ashamed of casual gaming

I'm not ashamed to admit my past addiction to Bookworm - are you?

Casual games are making the rounds, whether it's the special Orange Box version of Peggle or just a game of Bejeweled on your mobile phone - the simple fact is that everyone plays them.

The odd thing is though that, according to a new study reported by Reuters, although everyone plays casual games men are less likely to admit it than women and are actually a little ashamed of the fact. The study shows that although women tend to buy more of the games, play is actually split equally between gender.

The study, which was done by the Casual Games Association, suggests that men are ashamed to admit they play casual games because they want to be seen as part of the more male-dominated Hardcore market.

"We knew these guys were playing these games, but the hardcore gamer who is playing Halo with his buddies isn't going to brag that he just beat the next level of Zuma." Said Jessica Tams, MD for the CGA.

It's not all that shocking when you think about it, though as far as I've always thought hardcore gaming has been about an obsessive attitude to a game and not about the actual game you're playing. I think you can be a hardcore casual games player, if that makes any sense, you just have to approach casual games with a certain tenacity - though that relentlessness is one more commonly found aimed at non-casual games.

So, let me be the first to 'fess up. I like some casual games. True, I can't stand Peggle, but I did waste the first year of my University life mastering Bookworm Deluxe until I eventually finished the game. I bet most of you didn't even know that game actually has a true win scenario. Thankfully it does, or I might have spent the rest of my life playing it.

So, do you play casual games? Which ones and why might you be ashamed? Let us know in the forums.

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Carbon_Arc 2nd November 2007, 09:35 Quote
I'm not ashamed of my Peggle addiction!
AcidJiles 2nd November 2007, 09:42 Quote
its true. i sometimes waste time on casual games but would only talk about WIC or TF2 with friends
BioSniper 2nd November 2007, 09:45 Quote
I play the odd one every now and then.
Peggle was pretty fun but I do like a good bout of Hexic (360) or Bejewled every now and then though it's pretty rare these days as I currently have my head sunk into Tabula Rasa. MMO's eat my life :(
Veles 2nd November 2007, 09:48 Quote
I like casual games as well although I wouldn't say I'd be ashamed to admit it.
DeXtmL 2nd November 2007, 10:19 Quote
There's nothing to be ashamed to admit that we sometimes do play causal games.
UncertainGod 2nd November 2007, 10:31 Quote
I don't mind admitting I play casual games, it's just there not really worth talking about compared to the jaw dropping brilliance of things like Portal.
cjoyce1980 2nd November 2007, 10:40 Quote
i took time off work to play halo 3 and everyone knew.......
steveo_mcg 2nd November 2007, 10:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by cjoyce1980
i took time off work to play halo 3 and everyone knew.......

there's little casual about that though.
DXR_13KE 2nd November 2007, 10:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
I don't mind admitting I play casual games, it's just there not really worth talking about compared to the jaw dropping brilliance of things like Portal.

portal can almost be considered a casual game IMO.....
Noob4ever 2nd November 2007, 10:44 Quote
i like to play some casual defense games when a decent one comes around......
Bungle 2nd November 2007, 11:46 Quote
Oh lordy. Yet another closet for people to come out of. Never understood peoples "fear" of admitting to playing games. Another crowd are the ones who brand Nintendo games as "just for kids". Hell no, these titles are family fun for all ages. Never be ashamed of who you are or what you do (as long as it's legal).
UncertainGod 2nd November 2007, 11:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by DXR_13KE
portal can almost be considered a casual game IMO.....

Not for me, for a start Portal is just too damn fun to be considered a casual game. Casual games for example the ones PopCap make work because you need to burn some time and they suck time up so effectively yet the only reward you get is trying to beat the score you got last time.

Casual Games = Big time spent for little to no reward.
Portal = Little time spent for the most rewarding game I have played this year.
Delphium 2nd November 2007, 12:37 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
Portal = Little time spent for the most rewarding game I have played this year.
So you got the cake?!! hehe ;)

I freely admit I play the odd casual game, but as UncertainGod said, they just not worth ranting about (and yer it usually resorts to ranting) in comparison to the larger games ;)
Bungle 2nd November 2007, 13:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod

Casual Games = Big time spent for little to no reward.
The casual games I tend to play take very little of your time up I've found (spider solitaire , tetris to name but a few). Goldtoken
This site is a very casual gaming site which has games like chess/backgammon etc where you can take as long as 3 days before you make a move. The amount of time you invest in the games you play is negligible and I use to play them as and when I checked my emails.
As for "reward", most "hardcore" games I come across don't have any real reward. Unless the game is a clever puzzle type game (like Portal), most titles only prerequisite is for you to spend X amount of hours playing a game and your guaranteed to finish it, as you have unlimited saves and no real penalty for making a mistake. I would go so far as to say, almost all online games I've played are unrewarding as a game. Where they excel is in the ability to allow players to interact and achieve goals together in a community/clan environment. The tasks themselves tend to be very bland and repetative. The most rewarding parts of Online games come in the PvP variety from my experience.
UncertainGod 2nd November 2007, 13:31 Quote
Bungle, completely agree with everything you said except one, the monotinous games you talking about with no reward are what I would call bad games. I never include that type of game (also referred to as a EA game) in my judgment of mainstream, involving game types. I still remember a time when you always tried to play through a game on easy first, because odds were it wasn't going to be that easy. But these days you have games like Bioshock which given enough time you could complete if you were in a coma (don't get me wrong some things about BioShock were brilliant, but there was no challenge). It's possibly the only thing I didn't like about Portal, Quicksave is the bane of gaming existence.
Bauul 2nd November 2007, 13:35 Quote
I was, and still am, insanely impressed at you actually finishing Bookworm (or Bespelled as it was known then) Joe. For those not in the know, the game has well over 50 levels, and each level takes from about 10 minutes to complete for the lower ones to around an hour for the higher ones, and it gets insanely hard towards the end.

I always wondered though, what actually happens at the end? Do you get a little message that said "I can't believe anyone actually managed to finish this?"
CardJoe 2nd November 2007, 13:52 Quote
It declared you as a Grand Librarian, gives you a gold screen and suggests you try the Arcade mode.
Hells_Bliss 2nd November 2007, 14:07 Quote
I religiously play minesweeper and i'm not ashamed to admit it.
oaso 2nd November 2007, 14:31 Quote
Tetris if much better than Halo!
Veles 2nd November 2007, 15:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
I don't mind admitting I play casual games, it's just there not really worth talking about compared to the jaw dropping brilliance of things like Portal.

I don't know about that, Peggle is awesome as awesome pie.

Casual and hardcore are really a mindset IMO, all games are casual until you decide a certain game is so good you want to play it a lot more than average.

There are some games that people tend to play pretty "hardcore" (I still find this amusing) like say Halo 3 and Assassins Creed, "proper" games if you will. There are also ones that people will only play for half an hour to burn up some time like Peggle.

But then there's nothing stopping someone playing some hardcore Peggle and someone else casually playing Halo 3.

Gaming is one of my biggest hobbies, so I would put myself under "hardcore" banner, but that doesn't mean I'm one of those people who only plays M rated games because everything else is for kids. I'd say "casual" games probably take up more of my time than "hardcore" games as I'm pretty fickle with my gaming, I'll play something for a week and get bored of it for ages, and I often need something to fill the gaps when I'm finding a "real" game I want to play.
UncertainGod 2nd November 2007, 15:59 Quote
Veles, why are you confusing the rating of a game on whether it is casual or 'hardcore'?

In my mind (and I freely admit that the tag of casual or true game is very subjective) casual games are games you can easily pick up, blast around with and then just as easily put down. Games like Super Collapse, Peggle, Painkiller, etc. True games are ones, like movies that suck you in, make you want to see what is next, like the HL series, etc and also games where you don't really care what is next but you are having to much fun to stop, like Portal.

Whether a game is casual or 'hardcore' has nothing to do with it's intended audience, more on it's design philosophy as I'm sure the dev's at Pop-Cap would admit.
Veles 2nd November 2007, 16:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
Veles, why are you confusing the rating of a game on whether it is casual or 'hardcore'?

Because many "hardcore" gamers take the only play M rated attitude. I know a lot of people who didn't buy the GC even though they were big fans of Nintendo before because of the sole reason that they were too hardcore to play a kids console.
UncertainGod 2nd November 2007, 16:22 Quote
So you are being influenced by the attitudes of obvious morons?
gvblake22 2nd November 2007, 20:46 Quote
I'm not a big casual gamer (I usually have something better to do), but I was/am pretty addicted to Desktop Tower Defense!
Hamish 2nd November 2007, 21:11 Quote
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a game of Bejeweled on your mobile phone
pfft, i play Worms World Party and Wolfenstein3d on my phone
<3 for pocketpc :p
Vash-HT 2nd November 2007, 21:28 Quote
The only place I really play casual games is at work, where I often play Tower defense games. I guess that might be considered a little more than casual but I don't think so. Also I don't think Halo 3 is really a "hardcore" game, practically everyone has seen it or heard about it and played it. Even my mom knew what day it came out, and she absolutely hates video games.

EDIT: Just to add, I would define a hardcore gamer as someone who devotes a lot of their time to gaming and goes out of their way to personally research games they want. Someone who owns a 360 with only GoW and Halo 3 because their friends bought it wouldn't be hardcore imo (not ripping on those games I own them too hehe).
Rebourne 3rd November 2007, 02:52 Quote
So it's just the opposite of masturbation then?

Makes sense I guess...
Veles 3rd November 2007, 10:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
So you are being influenced by the attitudes of obvious morons?

:|

No, and this kind of attitude is more prevalent than it seems you imagine.
jkenneth24 3rd November 2007, 14:50 Quote
in another study...

Women ashamed of casual sex...

... according to another study reported by Reuters, although everyone engages in casual sex, women are less likely to admit it than men and are actually a little ashamed of the fact. The study shows that although men tend to pay for more sex, sex is actually split equally between gender...

...okay, so that was just the tweaked second paragraph of the article...

:)

-ken

.. this is my first post btw (long time reader tho)... so be kind...
CardJoe 3rd November 2007, 16:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by jkenneth24
in another study...

Women ashamed of casual sex...

... according to another study reported by Reuters, although everyone engages in casual sex, women are less likely to admit it than men and are actually a little ashamed of the fact. The study shows that although men tend to pay for more sex, sex is actually split equally between gender...

...okay, so that was just the tweaked second paragraph of the article...

I rofled.
knuck 3rd November 2007, 18:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by jkenneth24
in another study...

Women ashamed of casual sex...

... according to another study reported by Reuters, although everyone engages in casual sex, women are less likely to admit it than men and are actually a little ashamed of the fact. The study shows that although men tend to pay for more sex, sex is actually split equally between gender...

...okay, so that was just the tweaked second paragraph of the article...

:)

-ken

.. this is my first post btw (long time reader tho)... so be kind...

haha good one and welcome to the forums ;)
Great first post


as for the subject... I was never ashamed to say I own at Tetris Attack on the Game Boy :D
boiled_elephant 3rd November 2007, 19:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by UncertainGod
I don't mind admitting I play casual games, it's just there not really worth talking about compared to the jaw dropping brilliance of things like Portal.

Precisely. I'm completely gay for games like Race to Galamax (you'll probably only find it on antique-warez sites now) and even crap like the Windows bundled games.

Although I can't decide, now...is minesweeper casual or hardcore? Because different sectors seem to treat it like both.
Tomm 4th November 2007, 13:24 Quote
Minesweeper done properly is definitely not casual. I went through a phase of playing it a bit too religiously - turn off MSN, turn off your phone, buy a better mouse to improve your top scores etc. However, I did get quite good at it :D

I'm not afraid to say I like casual games. I play su doku on my phone more than I play anything else.
mattthegamer463 4th November 2007, 20:56 Quote
I never play casual games. If I have time to kill, I kill it here.
The_Beast 4th November 2007, 21:48 Quote
Solitaire FTW


How come F T W is comming up as cheesecake???
12modderz 4th November 2007, 22:22 Quote
I probably play online FLASH games more than I do for Hardcore games.
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