Silly people. Nintendo saw the propblem relitively early, and have started doing something about it.

I hope someone sue's them for being idiots.

Lol @ the fact it's happening in America too.. And to be fair, it was my american friend who pointed that out first!

Unfair or deceptive business practices?

They didn't expect people to be so sweaty!

no they shouldn't be sued.
too many lawyers out there just trying to squeeze ppl for money. sad state of affairs.
also if your too thick to hold onto a remote perhaps you shouldnt be allowed to operate hand held equipment.

No, they don't deserve to be sued. Especially since they're already acknowledging the problem and are replacing the straps.

Only in America. They are far far to sue friendly over there. Which is why i don't intend to go back (along with the insane time it takes to get though customs). Don't wanna get sued for software i've released thats illegal in the states (not here though ;)), or coughing near someone, or having my phone wake someones baby up. You get the picture. Better safe than sorry.

This is just rediculous...if you're stupid enough to let go of the wiimote in the first place, you just don't deserve better. Should they pay, because people have hands perspirating a slight bit too much? No.
When will americans learn that suing everyone and everything who has happened to be in the line of fire won't make the problems disappear..
But hell it's the american dream, right? As the Dire Straits once pointed out nicely:
"Money for nothing and the chicks for free.." (Although this propably wasn't their real intent ;))

//ottzen

if they didnt include a strap in the first place there'd probably be no big hoohar.

my example is with a box. if you sold a square box people would just carry it round in their hands like you do, if they dropped the box it'd be their fault and that'd be that..
now if you put a handle on the box it'd be easier to carry and everyone would be happy. however if the handle wore out or people just lost grip of it there would be a mass of people then complaining of shoddy workmanship and evil corparations. just like with nintendo.

so to sum up never ever bother helping people as they are just ungrateful *******s and will sue at the first oppurtunity. if you helped someone in a wheelchair up some stairs but sliped and dropped them you know you'd get sued just like that. ive gone off course a bit but greedy people piss me right off

That made me laugh because you've hit the nail on the head!

I'm just curious, has anyone on here had any experience of the strap being faulty, I mean as far as I can see this lawsuit is based purely on a kind of myth (lie) regarding the strap breaking.

To physically break that strap, while using the Wiimote in the "standard" way, doesn't seem possible to me, and it seems that most accidents occurred when the strap wasn't in use, and then to cover up, the strap is broken and blamed... It'll be interesting to see if they can get any witnesses to swear in court that the strap broke... Then again, it is America :D

This is just stupid in the extream. Nintendo has already offered to replace any Wii-mote straps that are buggered, not that many people will actually take them up on it, thinking of the number of free straps/ laynards etc that are given out with every single mobile phone, by mobile phone shops etc.
Anyone who is stupid enough to forget to hold onto the remote when they are playing (i'm sure it makes pressing the buttons a lil more challanging) should just chalk off any damage caused by said loosed remote down to their own dense-ness and be extra carefull with their safety spoon at dinner time incase they accedentally poke their own eye out.
Rant over, find beer to calm down.
Jaz_knos

Originally Posted by Chuff_72
I'm just curious, has anyone on here had any experience of the strap being faulty

Nope. My controller hasn't even slipped a little, let alone come flying out of my hand. And I've been holding it at some bizzare angles just lately trying to figure out the best way to apply spin when playing Wii Sports Tennis.

This lawsuit (the fact that it happens, is allowed to happen, and will likely result in a settlement) is the perfect example of everything that is wrong with todays society/system.

This story makes me depressed :(

Aggies

its the persons own fault for letting go as other have said.... i can see where in any of the wii games ive seen you would ever have to let go of the remote....

some people....

I can not for the life of me understand HOW people manage to swing the damn thing so hard to make it break the strap. Then again, I have half a brain. Anyone who swings the 1.5lb Wii-mote hard enough to get it to exceed exit velocity, break out of the strap, and smash their TV deserves to have their stuff smashed.

I'd be willing to bet this lawsuit gets thrown out. As mentioned, Nintendo has already issued free replacement straps for anyone who wants them.

Here's how Nintendo wins this one: Show that video of the guy serving in Wii Tennis and swinging the Wii-mote as hard as he possibly can and breaking the strap, sending the Wii-mote flying at the wall at 90mph. Then show a "how you're supposed to use it" video with a guy serving in Wii Tennis and doing a power serve by simply flicking his wrist. The judge will declare humanity doomed to stupidity and the case will be over.

The lawsuit also seeks an injunction that requires Nintendo to correct the defect in the Wii remote and to provide a refund to the purchaser or to replace the defective Wii remote with a Wii remote that functions as it is warranted and intended.

Isn't that exactly what they are doing by recalling the remotes? Freaking lawyers. I hope to hell this gets dismissed.

see, what they need is the `Zidane method of law-suit protection.

1. make the strap removable.

2. embed a frag grenade in the wii controller.

3. attatch strap to pin of grenade.

4. the darwin effect.

5. no more law suits from anyone dropping their controller whilst using the strap.

this could also work for maunfacturers of camera's, mp3 players, even car key makers.

some people say i am ahead of my time, trouble is, i'm only 5 minutes ahead.

The suit is going to fail. Key words from the filing: "as instructed by the material that accompanied the Wii console". The instructions accompanying the console say to never let go of the wiimote. Therefore, one could argue, the wrist strap was never meant to arrest a flying wiimote, and any failure of it to do that was due to user error, not an engineering defect.

That said, the lawsuit is stupid. The replacement offer is the right thing for Nintendo to be doing.

of course they should be sued. peoples property and bodies have been damaged.

saying its their fault for being so dumb isnt fair. you have a lot of non-traditional gamers playing these things that arent used to the technology. they dont know how it works, so they dont know that you dont need to swing so hard (or maybe dont care because theyre playing how its fun for them to play). secondly, the whole putting a handle on a box comparison lacks one big part. when there is a safty strap or a handle on something, you expect it to work. you put your trust into it. you dont assume its there for looks and keep being paranoid and ignore it and keep being safe the more difficult way. saying thats wrong is just as stupid as saying "well just because you put a lock on your front door is no reason for you to stop barricading it. the lock could fail, why put your trust into it? stupid"

peoples property has been damaged because nintendo sells a product with a safety measure, that only appears to be safe, in practice it fails. you wouldnt have a problem with sueing a car maker for making a car with a seatbelf that failed, would you?

i dont think suing is out of the question, nor do i think a complete recall is. this is a major problem, no matter if you think its silly because its a dumb mistake since you can keep calm while playing.

and, of course, just because you like nintendo because the wii is fun, is no reason to defend them

Originally Posted by sgr55
Only in America.

QFT!

RTFM Guys!

What is the world coming to!

It won't succeed surely as they are not using it correctly. It says in the manual not to use excessive force, if they have done then they have not been using it for what it was designed for.
The big question is, why did they let go of it in the first place?

No, they shouldn't be sued - it's the users fault for any breakage caused. The idots are probably flinging the Wiimote around with the same kind of force they'd use to throw a football.

M4RTIN has got it spot on - if they didn't include straps in the first place, there probably wouldn't be such an uproar.

The strap is obviously not designed to withstand that much force. It's like the lanyard that comes with the DS Lite - it's strong enough to take the weight of the machine (plus gravity) if you accidently drop it.
Is there anything in the Wii manual about the strap? I'm assuming it's similar to the DS one in that it'll stop the Wiimote from hitting the floor if you drop it, but it's not going to withstand anything more than that (and that's exactly what I'd expect the strap to do).

I still don't understand how the **** people let go the Wiimote?!

Originally Posted by M4RTIN
if they didnt include a strap in the first place there'd probably be no big hoohar....

spot on!

Originally Posted by sadffffff
of course they should be sued...

moron. (or troll, who knows?)

i will say this as being a person who is quite impartial to all console gaming mostly because i am a PC gamer and cannot wrap my brain around any controller with just 10 buttons however that is a different discussion all together. :D

i myself do not own a Wii however my friends do and after playing on theirs and all the abuse i have seen this console take i am surprised that people would be breaking the straps at all. it doesn't take much force to use the controllers. they are actually very sensitive and even the small wrist flick will send most monkey balling fanboys flying off the track.

<rant>
we have all seen the videos of people innocently playing on their Wii then all of the sudden they take this massive Venus and/or Serena style swing sending their wiimote flying. WHAT DID THEY THINK WAS GOING TO HAPPEN? :? was the wiimote supposed to have the tensile strength of steel braided cable? i have to conclude right here and now that in this world; there have been idiots before, are idiots around us now, and will still be idiots roaming this earth long after we are gone. the only difference we can make is to not give them the ability to inflict another headache on some company trying to make a buck. >:(

after all Nintendo did realize hey we could use some better straps and are offering them to customers FREE of charge. when did they do this you ask? BEFORE any class action lawsuits were filed because it was the right thing to do. sure they could have given us the middle finger and waited to do anything until after they lost a BS class action suit; but they didn't.

I'm not sorry for this rant. i have seen so many companies out there sued for frivolous things however i still cannot believe someone would file a case AFTER THE FIX IS OFFERED FREE TO THE PUBLIC!! i hope the case is thrown out.

it has been said by one of my favorite comedians before and i will reiterate his words here: "...you know me man i just hate stupid people. i think that they should have to wear signs that say I'm stupid...you know why there are warnings on products ladies and gentlemen its because of stupid people...that way if they are wearing the sign then you just wouldn't sell them the product..."

</rant>
i still cannot believe that someone is actually going to try and get some money out of this...i swear...

Originally Posted by sadffffff
of course they should be sued. peoples property and bodies have been damaged.

saying its their fault for being so dumb isnt fair. you have a lot of non-traditional gamers playing these things that arent used to the technology. they dont know how it works, so they dont know that you dont need to swing so hard (or maybe dont care because theyre playing how its fun for them to play).

ignorance isn't an excuse for blaming nintendo. I can't believe you even made this point.. my mind boggles

secondly, the whole putting a handle on a box comparison lacks one big part. when there is a safty strap or a handle on something, you expect it to work. you put your trust into it. you dont assume its there for looks and keep being paranoid and ignore it and keep being safe the more difficult way. saying thats wrong is just as stupid as saying "well just because you put a lock on your front door is no reason for you to stop barricading it. the lock could fail, why put your trust into it? stupid"

You put your trust into something to work as its supposed to be used. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no where does nintendo say that swinging a wiimote as fast and hard as a major league pitcher is how its intended to be used... or that its supposed to be stepped on, barbequed, run over or eaten by chipmunks...

peoples property has been damaged because nintendo sells a product with a safety measure, that only appears to be safe, in practice it fails. you wouldnt have a problem with sueing a car maker for making a car with a seatbelf that failed, would you?

funny thing being that the vast silent majority of people that have intelligence and proper motor control haven't seen any such 'failure'

i dont think suing is out of the question, nor do i think a complete recall is. this is a major problem, no matter if you think its silly because its a dumb mistake since you can keep calm while playing.

yea, personal responsibility?? pfff, that'll never catch on..

and, of course, just because you like nintendo because the wii is fun, is no reason to defend them

agreed

Lets think of an interview with the kind of people the wiimote issue has hurt:

"I am a 33 year old middleschool dropout due to confusion over which end of the pencil to hold and basic motor skills. My mommy recently purchased the nintendo wii for me as I had finally mastered all of the concepts that came with my leapfrog learning tablet. Sometimes when I am waving my remote around helplessly I find it slipping out of my hand. Though this has nothing to do with my inability to grasp objects in my hand."

He also added at the end of the interview that he had trouble with wetting himself.



Honestly. I am sure everyone can recall that lady sueing mcdonalds because she spilt hot coffee in her lap. Though she did win, so who even knows.

ROFL i almost pissed myself reading this!
Good one WR

lol this is priceless. Dont you just love it :)

It won't go to court. In fact, the lawyers probably aren't really looking for a court case, just a settlement. Or maybe I'm watching too much Boston Legal.

Originally Posted by Warrior_Rocker
Honestly. I am sure everyone can recall that lady sueing mcdonalds because she spilt hot coffee in her lap. Though she did win, so who even knows.

Try reading the McDonalds case before you judge it. . .

The Wii strap is failing everywhere- the strap appears to be a "safety measure" but it sucks. What if a car company released a really weak seat-belt that failed in every single accident? Would there not be a problem if the car manufacturer said the seat belt was only good for accidents at speeds less than 10MPH?

The Wii strap is a excessively small piece of string that can not perform it's job. For that reason, I can see why people would sue Nintendo.

However, Nintendo does claim that product was being used in a un-approved way so I can see support for Nintendo. I look forward to seeing how the lawsuit goes.

And Saeqhwin, I hope you don't consider Boston Legal a legal education. . .

L J

May I point everyone to the following:

http://www.nintendojo.com/fullfocus/view_item.php?1166055790

While it's not "Scientific" per se, I'd say that suspending 25 pounds of books and 100 fl oz of Mountain Fresh laundry detergent on a wiimote strap (Hung off a banana hook) and it NOT BREAKING is a pretty good indicator of how hefty that strap is.

And, in true Mythbusters style, when he then attempted to replicate the breaking of the strap... Well, I'll quote directly:

So, for my final act, I went old school. With one hand on the remote and the other on the strap, and I gave it a heave. I reached that point where I was pulling so hard I began to shake, and then, finally, progress -- I heard a click, and then a snap.

After hours of testing, one final violent tug of amazing strength did, in fact, snap the strap where it attaches to the remote.

Now, just what were they doing with that remote/strap?

Obviously they're just trying to make a quick buck. Nintendo have stated that to use the Wiimote, you need not do large or forceful swings; little ones will do. Excuse me if I sound a bit stereotypical, but it seems as if they only break when idiotic Americans, who think they're top sh*t at baseball, etc... try and do 500km/h swings and pitches. If anyone should be suing anyone, Nintendo should be suing them for being so idiotic.

People just need to grow the hell up and get some common sense, it is only a little plastic remote with a small strap; it's not built for these massive pitches, etc...

Maybe one of these days Mythbusters will come up with a Wii related episode. "Can regular use of Wiimote break its straps, causing it to fly across the living room. We are about to bust a myth that led to countless lawsuits back in 2006 when Nintendo Wii was released."

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
Try reading the McDonalds case before you judge it.

I have done. And for anyone to say that the merits of the case were met, I'd say they didn't understand the ruling. The whole basis of the suit was the temperature at which the coffee was brewed (Hotter than a normal coffee-maker, so they can get better life out of the beans). The fact that the woman was a stupid idiot, who placed a fresh and hot cup of coffee between her legs while driving, then wondered why when she squeezed her legs together the hot coffee spilt on her lap, had absolutely nothing to do with it. The verdict was passed on a hyper-technicality.

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
The Wii strap is failing everywhere

Everywhere? I've had a Wii since launch day, have played it almost every day, and neither strap on either of my two remotes has broken. And I've "Thrown" the remote a few times while bowling, which caused bruised underarms (Where the remote swung round and hit the back of my arm), but certainly no breakage.

And, in testing (As linked to above by myself), the Wii remote strap can take in excess of 25lbs. Considering the remote itself weighs just under 1lb, that makes a force of at least 25G - more than even the highest of high-G turns a fighter pilot has to endure (5-7G), and (according to NASA) enough to cause "Structural damage, especially to spine".

So, if people are throwing their Wii remotes at 25G (Or higher), how comes they don't also have broken hands/arms? And if it's enough force to break the strap, then surely it's also enough force (being applied by the strap) to break their wrist. In that case, which would you rather? Keep the remote and strap, and have a broken wrist, or have the strap break to ensure there's no real bodily harm?

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
the strap appears to be a "safety measure" but it sucks.

Do you have one? Have you used one? Have you broken one?

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
What if a car company released a really weak seat-belt that failed in every single accident? Would there not be a problem if the car manufacturer said the seat belt was only good for accidents at speeds less than 10MPH?

Of course there would be. But that is not the case here. To extend your analogy, what if the seat-belt broke when the car was in a crash at 460MPH+? Would that belt be considered unsafe?

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
The Wii strap is a excessively small piece of string that can not perform it's job. For that reason, I can see why people would sue Nintendo.

While the string may appear small, it's certainly strong.

Originally Posted by Colonel Sanders
However, Nintendo does claim that product was being used in a un-approved way so I can see support for Nintendo. I look forward to seeing how the lawsuit goes.

As do I. Some stress tests on the straps would help a lot, too, I think.

Originally Posted by Anakha

And, in testing (As linked to above by myself), the Wii remote strap can take in excess of 25lbs. Considering the remote itself weighs just under 1lb, that makes a force of at least 25G - more than even the highest of high-G turns a fighter pilot has to endure (5-7G), and (according to NASA) enough to cause "Structural damage, especially to spine".

So, if people are throwing their Wii remotes at 25G (Or higher), how comes they don't also have broken hands/arms? And if it's enough force to break the strap, then surely it's also enough force (being applied by the strap) to break their wrist. In that case, which would you rather? Keep the remote and strap, and have a broken wrist, or have the strap break to ensure there's no real bodily harm?

This is fundamentally wrong. You cannot 'throw' something at 25G. If the strap breaks at 120N (force of gravity on 12kg), then the maximum force that the wiimote can exert on your hand/wrist is also 120N. That is about equivalent to hanging a 12kg weight on your wrist (NOT dropping it, just hanging it). Last time I checked, normal people don't break their wrists lifting 12kg/25lb objects.

Originally Posted by sadffffff
...saying its their fault for being so dumb isnt fair. you have a lot of non-traditional gamers playing these things that arent used to the technology. they dont know how it works, so they dont know that you dont need to swing so hard (or maybe dont care because theyre playing how its fun for them to play)....

Even though I don't agree with the lawsuit I think you have made a very valid point. Most of the press I've seen is about how "intuitive" it is to play. No matter what the manual says how many of us actually read it first? We expect to be able to figure things out (without the manual) and that is one of Nintendo's selling points.

The question I have is: how many people will intentionally have "accidents" just to attempt to cash in on this?

I want to say: only in the Litigious States of America where almost everything is "someone else's fault" :( - but humans are no different around the world - though cultures & thought patterns can be different :)

One word (well, one acronym)

LOL!

Nintendo didn't mean to make it unsafe and are trying to stop it now, those sueing are just money hungry.

If you have fat sausage fingers don't try to play a Wii with loose grip!

Originally Posted by Tyinsar
Even though I don't agree with the lawsuit I think you have made a very valid point. Most of the press I've seen is about how "intuitive" it is to play. No matter what the manual says how many of us actually read it first? We expect to be able to figure things out (without the manual) and that is one of Nintendo's selling points.

The question I have is: how many people will intentionally have "accidents" just to attempt to cash in on this?

I want to say: only in the Litigious States of America where almost everything is "someone else's fault" :( - but humans are no different around the world - though cultures & thought patterns can be different :)

You can't miss the instructions on safety for the Wii. Here's why:

• When the console starts, it displays a warning notice, and requires you to press A to confirm you have read it.
• When you start a game (Wii sports, as an example), you have to hold BOTH A and B (Which means you have the remote in a full hand grip, with all fingers wrapped around the unit) to enter the game.
• When you enter an event, you AGAIN have to hold A+B,
• AFTER that, it displays a second warning to make sure you are holding the controller tightly, that you have the wrist strap on (With diagram to show how to tighten it), and that there's nothing nearby, AGAIN requiring you to press A to confirm you have read and understood.

I'm sorry, there's just no way you can say "I didn't know".

The thing which I don't like about this is that its a Lawyers firm without a direct plaintiff. There's no individually named people, just an unspecified group.

So I do not think the lawsuit should go ahead without a direct plaintiff.

Originally Posted by Warrior_Rocker
Honestly. I am sure everyone can recall that lady sueing mcdonalds because she spilt hot coffee in her lap. Though she did win, so who even knows.

Don't bring that or you'll get smacked down...McDonalds lost because the coffee was served at boiling point and they had already be warned by authorities that it wasn't acceptable. The woman spilled coffee on herself and got 3rd degree burns...she spent weeks at the hospital and had to get skin grafted into the burns...

I know the urban legend is funnier, but there was a lot of merit in that sue...

Originally Posted by Anakha
The fact that the woman was a stupid idiot, who placed a fresh and hot cup of coffee between her legs while driving, then wondered why when she squeezed her legs together the hot coffee spilt on her lap, had absolutely nothing to do with it. The verdict was passed on a hyper-technicality.

The woman was a 78 year old lady who, by some mistake spilled coffee on herself. Probably, in you world of Perfect Human Beings that deserves 3rd degree burns and 3 weeks in the hospital, but the majority of consumers worldwide don't expect a mere coffee to cause wounds equivalent to those of molten steel...

And McDonalds was found guilty because they had been warned before about this very same issue.

And btw...I don't see any merit in the Wii suit either. Stuff like that happens all the time with baseball bats, tennis rackets or soccer balls and nobody sues Adidas on a daily basis because of a broken window.

Just ridiculous. Can I log a Class Action Lawsuit against stupid people who constantly clog up the world with stupid, no life, no back bone antics like this?

Yep I'd agree with most people here, and say that this law suit is stupid and uncalled for, and seen as a few other people have made reference to car "faluts" I thought I'd add my own:

You take a sharp corner at an excessive speed and crash your car by skidding off the road. No one in their right mind would try and sue the car/tyre manufacturer for the car failing to grip because you weren't using your vehicle in an appropriate manor.
This is exactly the same situation with the wii-mote, people who have had problems will have been (and I've even read a few situations where people have admitted to) using it with excessive force.

I've have the remote come out of my hand twice on Wii Bowling from getting a little over excited, but neither time did it leave my hand with enough force to even strain the strap. Even without the strap, the remote would probably have only just reached the few meters across my living room to hit the T.V.

Originally Posted by Anakha
You can't miss the instructions on safety for the Wii. Here's why:...

Not having played with one I did not know that. Thanks. ;)

Isn't the coffee story just an urban legend?

"OMG, the coffee is hot! They are serving hot coffee here! Who'd have ever thought coffee would be hot?!"

(Maybe they should put warning labels on elderly people "Person may shake uncontrollably - don't serve hazardous food or drinks!")

Some one said '"Americas biggest problem are its morons. Well, just remove the warning labels everywhere, and the problem will solve itself within a few years".

One side of the issue is that the strap apparently can break and the remote can fly around and break stuff. I have seen a case of a broken wide screen back projection TV glass. Personally I think the wrist strap is too weak. In such a case, Nintendo should probably pay for the repair.

The other side is that may ppl may approach Nintendo, claiming they damaged something when their Wii controller's wrist strap broke and the controller smashed into it, and it's a lie.

Hard to judge.

Well, "How do you call 10,000 lawyers on the bottom of the sea? - A good start." :P

For the last time about the Coffee incident: The coffee was boiling not hot.

A hot coffee would just scald you, not leave 3rd degree burns.

END OF COFFEE

if it was genuinely boiling then by definition it would be vapour and would have risen out of the cup.
/pedant

sorry to drag out the coffee thing but i worked in mcdonalds and i may be misktaken but i was under the impression that boiling water bubbles... i worked in mcdonalds a few years back and never sold a bubbling cup of coffee...

Congratulations! Unfortunately, your personal anecdote really has no relevance to the McDonalds case at all...

Without any intention of dragging this thing further, but in case anybody is interested in the subject:

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm

http://www.citizen.org/congress/civjus/tort/myths/articles.cfm?ID=785

The Facts

A detailed look at the facts of this case reveal that in light of McDonalds’ actions, the awards were justified:

By its own corporate standards, McDonald’s sells coffee at 180 to 190 degrees Fahrenheit. A scientist testifying for McDonald’s argued that any coffee hotter than 130 degrees could produce third degree burns. However, a doctor testifying on behalf of Ms. Liebeck noted that it takes less than three seconds to produce a third degree burn at 190 degrees.[4]

During trial, McDonald’s admitted that it had known about the risk of serious burns from its coffee for more than 10 years. From 1982 to 1992, McDonald’s received more than 700 reports of burns from scalding coffee; some of the injured were children and infants. Many customers received severe burns to the genital area, perineum, inner thighs and buttocks.[5]In addition, many of these claims were settled, amounting to more than $500,000.[6]

Witnesses for McDonald’s testified that consumers were not aware of the extent of danger from coffee spills served at the company’s required temperature. McDonald’s admitted it did not warn customers and could offer no explanation as to why it did not.[7]

As a result of her injuries, Ms. Liebeck spent eight days in a hospital. In that time she underwent expensive treatments for third-degree burns including debridement (removal of dead tissue) and skin grafting. The burns left her scarred and disabled for more than two years.[8]Before a suit was ever filed, Liebeck informed McDonald’s about her injuries and asked for compensation for her medical bills, which totaled almost $11,000.[9]McDonald’s countered with a ludicrously low $800 offer.

McDonald’s had several other chances to settle the case before trial: At one point, Liebeck’s attorney offered to settle for $300,000.[10] In addition, days before the trial, the judge ordered both sides into a mediated settlement conference where the mediator, a retired judge, recommended that McDonald’s settle for $225,000.[11] McDonald’s refused all attempts to settle the case.

However, both the media and those who want to take away consumers’ legal rights conveniently overlooked the facts of the case, creating a “legal myth,” a poster-case for corporate entities with a vested interest in limiting the legal rights of consumers.

Sorry to get anal with this issue, but people making fun of this case are just making fun of our rights as consumers and drinking the Big Corp Kool-Aid, however unknowingly.

Now, feel free to point the inadequacies of the USA Civil Courts system as much as you want, but at least, get the facts first and don't rely on urban legends...I may not agree with the Nintendo suit, but I'd love to be able to get a big corporation to court (with a chance to win, or at least get a settlement) so easilt as people can in USA. As much fun people make of those class action lawsuits, they are a huge weapon in the hands of consumers when their rights are being violated. If the suit is without merit, the courts will likely say so...so I'd rather wait before making too harsh a judgment and learning later that there is indeed merit in the suit and that Nintendo has to pay for all the broken equipment or something like that...

@Iago: Well put ;)

someday soon i will get a wii strap, connect it to something with the same mass as a wiimote, then i will test it in the worse kind of conditions and then post the results here.

and if it fails i will reinforce my future wii straps with nylon or/and steel wire.