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Microsoft's Mini Start Menu delayed for Windows Threshold

Microsoft's Mini Start Menu delayed for Windows Threshold

Windows 8.1 users hoping to see Microsoft's promised Mini Start Menu in the August update are rumoured to be in for disappointment, with the feature now scheduled for 2015's Windows Threshold release.

Microsoft's plan to add the Start Menu back into its latest Windows releases via a software update have been delayed, with industry sources claiming no such update will appear until at least 2015.

When Microsoft launched Windows 8, it came with a brand-new user experience: the Metro User Interface (UI). Based heavily on the tile-based Windows Phone UI, Metro was optimised for touch-screen devices - but, its critics claimed, ill-suited for use with a keyboard and mouse. In adding the new interface, Microsoft also made considerable changes to the existing classic UI including the removal of both the Start Button and the Start Menu, the latter being replaced with Metro UI's tile-based Start Screen.

Following a critical mauling, Microsoft has slowly begun to backtrack on its vision for the next generation of user interaction. While Windows 8.1 still features the Metro UI, now known as the Modern UI, it comes with a Start Button at the lower-left just like its predecessor. Just prior to launch, the company confirmed that a future update to the platform would introduce the option to have the new Start Button trigger an old-style Start Menu rather then the Modern Start Screen - although one redesigned to include features, like Live Tiles, associated with the new user interface.

Sadly for those who are relying on third-party packages to add the classic Start Menu to Windows 8.1, the latest rumours suggest that the updated menu won't be appearing until some time next year. Sources speaking to ZDNet have suggested the Mini Start Menu have claimed that a planned August release date has been pushed back, with the feature now scheduled to appear in Windows Threshold - the code-name of what is expected to be Windows 9.

Although Microsoft has not offered a release date for Windows Threshold, the company is believed to be following a more aggressive annual launch cycle - similar, in fact, to its rival Apple. If that's so, Windows Threshold - and, by extension, the Mini Start Menu - could appear some time next year. Microsoft, naturally, has refused to comment on the rumours.

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GeorgeK 3rd June 2014, 12:08 Quote
I know this isn't everyone's view, but I much prefer Win 8 (well 8.1) with Start8 installed...
Parge 3rd June 2014, 12:19 Quote
Yeah, I have start8 installed and find Win8 excellent. Its so fast at startup and the multi screen support is a big improvement from 7. Don't ever use the Metro UI though - that thing is useless in every sense of the word.
Corky42 3rd June 2014, 12:41 Quote
Makes me wonder why they don't do a similar thing as Apple, have a desktop OS and a separate mobile OS, some stuff can be the same or similar or shared between both, just not everything.
I'm sure there are somethings that are better suited to being used on there intended device, or are not needed on the other device, such as the Start Menu
phuzz 3rd June 2014, 17:29 Quote
I'm getting used to 8.1 now, it's basically made me realise quite how little I used the start menu before, and now I just hit start, type the first few letters, and hit enter. The full screen menu is distracting, but the functionality is basically the same.
The multimonitor support in 8 basically covers what UltraMon does/did.
Pookie 3rd June 2014, 18:43 Quote
I get on fine with 8.1. But for customers I alway's bung on classic shell. I think it's too late for MS to implement the Start button now with Windows 8. They may aswell use it as a key selling point for Windows 9! They can even do TV ad's with the rolling stones "Start Me Up" song like they did for Windows 95 lol
loftie 3rd June 2014, 20:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz
I'm getting used to 8.1 now, it's basically made me realise quite how little I used the start menu before, and now I just hit start, type the first few letters, and hit enter.

If you use keyboard shortcuts you can also Win+s and type.
longweight 4th June 2014, 00:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
If you use keyboard shortcuts you can also Win+s and type.

Or just Win.
woods 4th June 2014, 00:45 Quote
I only ever use the start menu in Windows 7 to shut down my machine I use Objectdock & windows explorer for everything else in Windows 8.1 I just use windows explorer pinned to my taskbar.
ChaosDefinesOrder 4th June 2014, 11:46 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz
I'm getting used to 8.1 now, it's basically made me realise quite how little I used the start menu before, and now I just hit start, type the first few letters, and hit enter. The full screen menu is distracting, but the functionality is basically the same.

Echoing this; I have regularly used programs pinned to taskbar and everything else is Win + type. Start screen is populated with calendar, weather and stocks to use the livetiles as widgets (never open the actual programs!), then all my Steam games pinned with Steam Tile (or Steam launcher, I forget which) purely for aesthetics.

With 8.1 I don't even use the Start screen to shut down or restart, that's right-click "new start button" and select shutdown...

Generally speaking, I have no complaints about 8.1
Jim 5th June 2014, 00:16 Quote
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Originally Posted by phuzz
I'm getting used to 8.1 now, it's basically made me realise quite how little I used the start menu before, and now I just hit start, type the first few letters, and hit enter. The full screen menu is distracting, but the functionality is basically the same.
The multimonitor support in 8 basically covers what UltraMon does/did.

Disagree with that. In Windows 7, if I want to format a drive, I type partition, and hit enter. In Windows 8, for some unknown reason, I type partition, and it stares blankly at me saying "There aren't any programs called 'Partition'". I then have to go and click the "Settings" button or whatever it's called to see the option I wanted in the first place.

I cannot, for the life of me, see how that's an improvement.
IvanIvanovich 5th June 2014, 00:55 Quote
Yes, they changed somethings to have unintuitive names... like 'create and format hard disk partitions' but if you start typing partition it does come up after the 6th letter. Or you could just right click start and choose disk management.
I personally don't think they should even bother with the small start menu. It makes no real difference. People should just get used to the start screen. It's not as if you are multitasking when starting a program. Either way if it was full screen or a small menu it has focus until you finished. It makes no difference... but with the full screen you don't have nested mess of crap like the old way. If you take the time to organize it (and clean up some of the garbage installers still dump in there which they are not supposed to) the start screen is super nice.
Krazeh 5th June 2014, 09:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by snootyjim
Disagree with that. In Windows 7, if I want to format a drive, I type partition, and hit enter. In Windows 8, for some unknown reason, I type partition, and it stares blankly at me saying "There aren't any programs called 'Partition'". I then have to go and click the "Settings" button or whatever it's called to see the option I wanted in the first place.

I cannot, for the life of me, see how that's an improvement.

Update to 8.1 and that won't be an issue anymore.
Zider 7th June 2014, 02:37 Quote
I don't miss the start menu at all, I never even tried Start8 and similar programs after upgrading to win8. Doubt I'd be using a start menu even if there was one now.
Corky42 7th June 2014, 07:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by IvanIvanovich
but with the full screen you don't have nested mess of crap like the old way. If you take the time to organize it (and clean up some of the garbage installers still dump in there which they are not supposed to) the start screen is super nice.

You wouldn't have a nested mess of crap if you organised the start menu like you have done with the start screen.
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Originally Posted by Zider
I don't miss the start menu at all, I never even tried Start8 and similar programs after upgrading to win8. Doubt I'd be using a start menu even if there was one now.

There still is one. It's just Microsoft renamed it the Start Screen, gave it bigger icons that you can poke with a finger, added some flashy icons to the mix, and moved a load of other bits around.
The start screen is nothing more than a full screen version of the start menu on steroids.
Nexxo 7th June 2014, 10:20 Quote
If it's much the same thing, why are you getting so annoyed about it? :p

Never mind. Horses for courses, and all that.
Corky42 7th June 2014, 10:28 Quote
I'm not annoyed about it :? Sorry if it came across like that.
In essence the start screen is the same as the start menu IMHO, a place for launching applications, but with a load of extra bells and whistles.
Nexxo 7th June 2014, 11:43 Quote
My bad. I agree though: same thing, different spin. I quite like the way the Start Screen works but feel that neither it or the Start Menu are perfect. Then again, it's a deceptively hard thing to get right, as most seemingly simple ideas are.
faugusztin 7th June 2014, 13:41 Quote
To the Start8 guys ? Why do you pay for it, when you can get http://www.classicshell.net/ for free ?
theshadow2001 7th June 2014, 15:01 Quote
I bought it because at the time classic she'll wasn't up to scratch. And it was 5 dollars which isn't a whole lot
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