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Windows 8.1 Update 1 to introduce shutdown button

Windows 8.1 Update 1 to introduce shutdown button

Windows 8.1 Update 1

Screenshots apparently of Windows 8.1 Update 1 reveal the upcoming update will sport dedicated buttons on the Start Screen for shutdown and search.

The screenshots come from known Russian leaker WZor and they show the new buttons in the top right corner of the operating system's Start Screen. Currently users are required to activate the Charms menu to access shutdown options.

Also revealed is that you can right click on Live Tiles to bring up a context menu containing options to resize and unpin them, as well as uninstall them and open whatever app they refer to in a new window.

The Update 1 is expected to be released on 11 March and is being seen as another major step towards addressing what many have seen as fundamental problems with the UI of Windows 8. For less experienced users the drastic changes in how basic tasks like shutting down your PC, compared to existing versions of Windows, have led to confusion while power users have been frustrated at the disruption to their familiar way of doing things.

Windows 8.1 looked to address some of these issues, adding back in a Start Button in the bottom left corner of the desktop to provide a more familiar way for users to return to the Start Screen. Update 1 will look to continue this work as well as further unify Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 operating systems.

Windows 8.1 Update 1 to introduce shutdown button

Windows 8.1 Update 1 to introduce shutdown button

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Nexxo 25th January 2014, 15:30 Quote
Yeah, because simply punching the power button or closing the laptop lid is way too complicated. :p But choices are always good.

Still, I will never know why they didn't just add Shut Down to the context menu of the user tile on the Start Screen. Seems like an obvious place to me.
Pliqu3011 25th January 2014, 15:56 Quote
A lot of design choices in Windows 8 I can understand, or at least tolerate, but not hiding the shutdown button in some hidden "settings" menu. Can't believe it's taking them this long to fix such a simple (and obvious) mistake.
For my grandmother I had to make a small bat script on the desktop to shut down the computer, all the fiddly stuff with the mouse to get that charms thing pop up was too frustrating for her.
loftie 25th January 2014, 16:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
A lot of design choices in Windows 8 I can understand, or at least tolerate, but not hiding the shutdown button in some hidden "settings" menu. Can't believe it's taking them this long to fix such a simple (and obvious) mistake.
For my grandmother I had to make a small bat script on the desktop to shut down the computer, all the fiddly stuff with the mouse to get that charms thing pop up was too frustrating for her.

Right click bottom left corner -> shutdown or signout -> shutdown.
SexyHyde 25th January 2014, 16:11 Quote
It's not like anyone said do this when we were all testing the Windows 8 beta.
I suppose I can get my wallet out and spend the £100~ to upgrade from 7 now.
On second thoughts.
SexyHyde 25th January 2014, 16:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
Right click bottom left corner -> shutdown or signout -> shutdown.

Left click start button > shutdown. why change button and add an extra step/click?
Pliqu3011 25th January 2014, 16:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
Right click bottom left corner -> shutdown or signout -> shutdown.

Yes. You and I might remember that, but my grandmother - and I bet a lot of other older people too - won't. She wants a big, recognisable button she can click, and done. Her hands are not very steady with a mouse so any precision movements are out of the question. Also I don't think she's ever right-clicked anything before.

To people who know and understand computers, these design decisions don't matter that much, we'll get used to them anyway. But to people who are not familiar with computers things like right-clicking in corners or hovering at certain locations are not evident, and are a great source of frustration. Win8 is, judging from my (admittedly limited) experience, filled with stuff like that.
I kind of regret not just installing Linux Mint on her new computer. That would have been closer to the WinXP user experience she was used to, and is very user-friendly in its own right.
loftie 25th January 2014, 16:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by SexyHyde
Left click start button > shutdown. why change button and add an extra step/click?

Because W8 doesn't currently have a shutdown option after you left click the start button. And it's not an extra click.
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
Yes. You and I might remember that, but my grandmother - and I bet a lot of other older people too - won't. She wants a big, recognisable button she can click, and done. Her hands are not very steady with a mouse so any precision movements are out of the question. Also I don't think she's ever right-clicked anything before.

To people who know and understand computers, these design decisions don't matter that much, we'll get used to them anyway. But to people who are not familiar with computers things like right-clicking in corners or hovering at certain locations are not evident, and are a great source of frustration. Win8 is, judging from my (admittedly limited) experience, filled with stuff like that.
I kind of regret not just installing Linux Mint on her new computer. That would have been closer to the WinXP user experience she was used to, and is very user-friendly in its own right.

Previous windows you had to left click the start menu, and left click the shutdown menu/button, is switching out a left click for a right click really that different? If they want a big button, you could use Oblytile to create a tile on the start menu.
Nexxo 25th January 2014, 16:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
Yes. You and I might remember that, but my grandmother - and I bet a lot of other older people too - won't. She wants a big, recognisable button she can click, and done.

How about the power button on the computer case? The same one she pokes to turn it on?
Pliqu3011 25th January 2014, 16:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
Previous windows you had to left click the start menu, and left click the shutdown menu/button, is switching out a left click for a right click really that different?
Yes, it's completely different. Some people never use right click for anything, and they will not remember. They'll click left just as usual and think "why doesn't the computer respond?".
The absence of an actual button is also a big deal (which you seem to forget in your comparison). I can guarantee you that computer illiterate people will never click anywhere on the screen where there is no button or any other direct indication that an action will happen when clicked.
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Originally Posted by loftie
If they want a big button, you could use Oblytile to create a tile on the start menu.
I could (and maybe I will), but I really shouldn't have to. Stuff like this should be in "vanilla" Win8. Basic accessibility should be standard, extra functionality can be added later.
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
How about the power button on the computer case? The same one she pokes to turn it on?
I guess that's a good option. I wasn't sure whether the shutdown procedure is exactly the same when pressing the power button as using the "software" shutdown, but if it is, then yes it's a good alternative. I'll tell her that.
runadumb 25th January 2014, 16:55 Quote
It is an amazing basic omission. I had to look it up when I first used win 8 and felt like a butter doing it.
Cheapskate 25th January 2014, 17:17 Quote
The hover in the corner thing is a real pain in the tail with multiple monitors. I seem to recall I couldn't use alt-F4 to shut down too. I hope to God they put hot key function back in. I'm still smacking Xtree Gold hot keys and lamenting the loss of Powerdesk post-XP.:(
loftie 25th January 2014, 17:24 Quote
I disagree, if they left click the bottom left corner they'll get the start screen. The start button has about the same level indication as a desktop shortcut - highlights when you hover over it. Personally I think you're not giving computer illiterate people enough credit. I know a few people that would prove you can teach an old dog new tricks - though patience required.
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
I could (and maybe I will), but I really shouldn't have to. Stuff like this should be in "vanilla" Win8. Basic accessibility should be standard, extra functionality can be added later.

I really dislike the self entitled attitude a lot of people seem to have with W8. You really don't have to use it, in fact I actively encourage you to install Linux on her PC. You as a consumer are unhappy with the product, MS won't change their mind if people continue to use it.
Xlog 25th January 2014, 17:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Yeah, because simply punching the power button or closing the laptop lid is way too complicated. :p But choices are always good.

Still, I will never know why they didn't just add Shut Down to the context menu of the user tile on the Start Screen. Seems like an obvious place to me.

Closing lid usually defaults to sleep, what if I want to hibernate/shutdown/reboot or keep laptop running? Same thing with power button.
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Originally Posted by loftie
Right click bottom left corner -> shutdown or signout -> shutdown.

And how do you switch off W8 using only a keyboard (without resorting to CLI)?
Pliqu3011 25th January 2014, 17:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
I really dislike the self entitled attitude a lot of people seem to have with W8.
What? Overreaction much?
Making your software accessible is not a matter of pandering to "self entitled" users, it's basic software design. When you're making something for a wide audience, like Windows, accessibility has to be your number 1 target.
I say they've failed in this at some points, like the absence if a clear shutdown button, and you call me "self entitled"? :?
Nexxo 25th January 2014, 18:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xlog
Closing lid usually defaults to sleep, what if I want to hibernate/shutdown/reboot or keep laptop running? Same thing with power button.

You can re-assign what closing the lid does in Power Management. Usually closing the lid sends it to sleep; punching the power button (which the laptop of course also has) turns it off.

Personally I think the most elegant solution would have been for the power button to summon a little menu with options: (Sleep, Hibernate, Shut Down, Cancel) from which you select your choice with a mouse click/screen poke.
Pliqu3011 25th January 2014, 18:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Personally I think the most elegant solution would have been for the power button to summon a little menu with options: (Sleep, Hibernate, Shut Down, Cancel) from which you select your choice with a mouse click/screen poke.
I wonder if it's possible to create something for windows that actually makes this possible. It's really a great idea. No confusion, and the option to change your mind.

The XFCE window manager has something similar, if I'm not mistaken.
Xlog 25th January 2014, 18:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
You can re-assign what closing the lid does in Power Management. Usually closing the lid sends it to sleep; punching the power button (which the laptop of course also has) turns it off.

Personally I think the most elegant solution would have been for the power button to summon a little menu with options: (Sleep, Hibernate, Shut Down, Cancel) from which you select your choice with a mouse click/screen poke.

You mean as did alt+f4 in previous windows versions?
Nexxo 25th January 2014, 18:36 Quote
Whadayaknow? I didn't know that one. :) Yes, like that, but I would use a row of icons instead of a pull-down menu.

It also works on Windows 8. Really that window should be invoked by the power button. I wonder if there's a way to hack that...
loftie 25th January 2014, 18:52 Quote
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Originally Posted by Pliqu3011
What? Overreaction much?

Bah, maybe it's just me, bad day. I do know people who are terrible with PCs and yet managed to navigate to the shutdown charm on my PC though.
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Originally Posted by Xlog
And how do you switch off W8 using only a keyboard (without resorting to CLI)?

Not quite sure why we're suddenly on keyboard only, but if you must know i use the power button on my keyboard.

Failing that Win+ I then navigate.

Edit as nexxo said, alt-f4 works
leexgx 26th January 2014, 01:23 Quote
i agree with Pliqu3011 computer illiterate people or people who do not want to use a computer but need to, they do not even Try look at the menu buttons so on windows 8 no labels and hidden functions is very bad for them type of users (they are more common then you think)

windows 8 is not performance issues thats fine (mostly but thats another topic) its a UI problem and why i just install startisback on any new windows 8 computer i setup as they will be coming from vista or win7 as it confuses them way to much and i would have to spend "my time" telling them and showing them how to use it when i can install a startmenu and return 90% of functionality back, as the other 10% you Have to use command line (WiFi lol no GUI to manage it) or the access some settings that are only in metro/RT settings (settings are split between windows 8 and RT)

the Hidden and No Text labels (that i find is more the issue) makes it very hard to use in some cases for new users, its like going from windows to Linux OS (even OSX for the most part is ok to use apart from crap mouse), windows 8 is like trying to use apple (ipad/iphone) IOS on a desktop that should be running OSX, it just does not work and why apple have not been stupid to do it

and why is Office outlook 2013 so broken with IMAP (you have to keep spamming the send receive button so it downloads the emails in blobs of 100, Google it seems most say use outlook 2010 so IMAP works normal again)
Adnoctum 26th January 2014, 07:39 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie

I really dislike the self entitled attitude a lot of people seem to have with W8. You really don't have to use it, in fact I actively encourage you to install Linux on her PC. You as a consumer are unhappy with the product, MS won't change their mind if people continue to use it.

What a foolish thing to say. Not just to critics of Win 8 but of all consumers in general.

MS is perfectly entitled to make their products as unusable and as painful to use as they desire. And I'm perfectly entitled to not buy their defective products. Which I haven't. And nor has any of my family, and nor has anyone who I have purchasing influence over.
More over, as a non-consumer of Win 8 or 8.1, I am perfectly entitled to tell MS why I and others influenced by my purchasing decisions have chosen not to spend money on any MS products lately.
Those machines/users that could make the switch have moved over to flavours of Linux, and those machines/users tied to MS have remained on Win 7 and will not be moving.

And it seems that MS is getting the message from all the "self-entitled attitudes" of Win 8 critics, and their refusal to purchase a product that doesn't meet their requirements, because they are rolling back on their poor design choices.
MS knew Win8 would drop on users like a fat stinker because everybody told them so during the beta, but with MS, hubris is a defining trait and they thought by using their dominant position they could force the issue and bring everyone to heel.
After all, it worked with Ribbon in Office didn't it? Well, mostly, except that at my previous workplace Libre Office was an option that a good many users were taking advantage of. At home as well.

I cannot believe MS was so deluded that they thought that businesses would want Win 8, but how else can you explain that Win 8 is a thing that exists? As an experiment one of our SMEs at work tried out a Win 8 install just to see how it/we could cope. Badly, was the answer.
Bindibadgi 26th January 2014, 07:45 Quote
So is this Windows 8.1.1? 8.11?

/3.1x throwback.

But what about the: "It is now safe to turn off your computer"

/95 throwback

Anymore?
Nexxo 26th January 2014, 11:07 Quote
It's the Windows 95 ritual (It's now safe to turn off your computer) that has people conditioned to look for a way to turn off the PC from the GUI, rather than just poking the power button. :p
loftie 26th January 2014, 11:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
What a foolish thing to say. Not just to critics of Win 8 but of all consumers in general.

So you'd rather I encourage people who buy a product they dislike to continue to use it while constantly moaning about/hating it? Instead of, you know, switching to something they'd enjoy using?
Big_malc 26th January 2014, 12:34 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
It's the Windows 95 ritual (It's now safe to turn off your computer) that has people conditioned to look for a way to turn off the PC from the GUI, rather than just poking the power button. :p

Well at least we dont have to park heads any more :D
DXR_13KE 26th January 2014, 13:11 Quote
I seriously tried windows 8.1 for some time, then i had no choice but to re-install windows 7. There were so many things that were broken beyond recognition that i don't want to get into.
Nexxo 26th January 2014, 14:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by Big_malc
Well at least we dont have to park heads any more :D

God, yes! Harddisks learned to self-park a few years before I got my first PC, luckily.
Speed 26th January 2014, 14:21 Quote
First thing that came into my mind when I saw the title...

_J6-3l3hCm0

Yes there are other very easy ways to shut the system down, but honestly, the option to create a shutdown tile without any additional software or messing about should've been there from the very first release of Windows 8.
Adnoctum 26th January 2014, 14:31 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
What a foolish thing to say. Not just to critics of Win 8 but of all consumers in general.

So you'd rather I encourage people who buy a product they dislike to continue to use it while constantly moaning about/hating it? Instead of, you know, switching to something they'd enjoy using?

So is this foolish comment Number Two? Your argument now is that people who buy Win 8 and not like it should basically shut up and use something else? What world do you live in that dissatisfied consumers should shut up, suck up the loss of money spent on a substandard product, and buy something else?

What encouragement did you offer to use something else? You berated people for daring to express their dissatisfaction with a purchased product. You called them "self-entitled" when they dared to criticise deliberate design choices that make their computer experience difficult.

Most people don't choose to have Win 8 at all. Most people have it forced on them because their computer vendor likes the MS kick-backs for pre-installing their crap.
When people do have the option to genuinely choose Win8, it would seem obvious from the spectacularly dire sales figures of Surface tablets that they choose not to have anything to do with it at all.
Nexxo 26th January 2014, 14:51 Quote
Sorry to interrupt, but the poor sales of Surface tablets had nothing to do with Windows 8 (I mean, do any of you guys actually ever pay attention to what is going on in the computer world?!).
Corky42 26th January 2014, 15:09 Quote
I wouldn't say Surface tablet sales are dire...
http://www.kitguru.net/laptops/notebook/anton-shilov/sales-of-microsoft-surface-tablets-doubled-in-q4-2013/
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Sales of the Surface RT and Surface Pro tablets Surface more than doubled sequentially, from $400 million in the first quarter of FY2014 (calendar Q3 2013) to $893 million in the second quarter of FY2014.
Even with this uptick in sales they still made a lost at least $39 million thought, if things keep going they will be in profit by Q2.
modd1uk 26th January 2014, 15:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
snip

If you don't like something then either stop using it and use something else or just put up and shut up (also man up). You're moaning about an OS that you don't use, have you nothing better to do ? You sir come across as a pleb. Sick of people moaning about windows 8/8.1, if you don't like it, don't use it, simples. If you do use it and you don't like it then either fix the issue or just switch to a different OS.
Xir 26th January 2014, 15:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Big_malc
Well at least we dont have to park heads any more :D
You guys are both right
loftie 26th January 2014, 18:11 Quote
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
Your argument now is that people who buy Win 8 and not like it should basically shut up and use something else?

Use something else yes. I find generally if i'm not using/doing something I dislike, I don't feel the need to complain about it.
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
What world do you live in that dissatisfied consumers should shut up, suck up the loss of money spent on a substandard product, and buy something else?

The world where you can

a) Walk into a shop and look at/try something before you purchase it.
b) Where so much information is available online that some idea can be gained from a bit of research.
c) The ability to DSR something.
d) Get an alternative.

E.g. I've just bought myself a new phone, if I don't like it I'm going to return it and get another one.

I don't see the point of someone using W8 when it causes them aggravation/problems, when they could switch OS and live a happier life.
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
What encouragement did you offer to use something else? You berated people for daring to express their dissatisfaction with a purchased product. You called them "self-entitled" when they dared to criticise deliberate design choices that make their computer experience difficult.

Actually I criticised the fact that Pliqu said what should and shouldn't be in the OS as well as the opinion of what is basic accessibility. I then encouraged them to install Linux since they themselves said they regret not doing so in the first place as it's close to the experience she was used to.
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Originally Posted by Adnoctum
Most people don't choose to have Win 8 at all. Most people have it forced on them because their computer vendor likes the MS kick-backs for pre-installing their crap.

Still take issue with this whole forced thing. You're not forced to do anything. There was a news article on BT about HP reintroducing W7 as an option. Corky even mentions that from what he remembers, Lenovo and Dell already offer W7 as an option. Looking on Tesco, there are at least 100 W7 PCs, and none of that includes the possibility of a Mac, Linux, or a downgrade.
jimmyjj 27th January 2014, 00:56 Quote
:(
siliconfanatic 27th January 2014, 03:32 Quote
I'm sorry, but someone really needs to post this:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/600/h1xg.jpg
DC74 27th January 2014, 03:46 Quote
Finally but erm too little too late, by the time they fix the issues with windows 8, Windows 9 will be here and everyone will migrate just as they did from Vista when 7 came out.

Learn the lesson Microsoft, stop telling people what they want and just listen to what they want. You'll end up with a better OS that the majority of people are happy with instead of something that is essentially going to sit on a shelf for eternity or become a doorstop.
Coltch 27th January 2014, 09:11 Quote
I only use 8.1 on my Netbook as it is 100 times better than the pile of c**p that is win 7 starter, never use the mouse to bring up the charms bar to shutdown - always use Alt+F4.
Nexxo 27th January 2014, 09:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by DC74
Finally but erm too little too late, by the time they fix the issues with windows 8, Windows 9 will be here and everyone will migrate just as they did from Vista when 7 came out.

Learn the lesson Microsoft, stop telling people what they want and just listen to what they want. You'll end up with a better OS that the majority of people are happy with instead of something that is essentially going to sit on a shelf for eternity or become a doorstop.

People don't know what they want:
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The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’…the Macintosh uses icons to represent functions as though there was some intuitive knowledge on the part of the user as to what these icons mean…The nature of the personal computer revolution is simply not fully understood by companies like Apple (or anyone else, for that matter.) Apple makes the arrogant assumption of thinking that it knows what you want and need. It, unfortunately, leaves the ‘why out of the equation — as in, ‘why would I want this?

— Early Mac reviewer John C. Dvorak, explaining that while he liked the new Apple computer, he didn’t think it would be a hit. San Francisco Examiner, Feb. 1984.
Shirty 27th January 2014, 10:25 Quote
I'm sorry, but I'm with siliconfanatic on this one.
Nexxo 27th January 2014, 10:28 Quote
atlas 27th January 2014, 10:33 Quote
It's about time doesn't even begin to describe it. Lack of shutdown button is the first thing I noticed the first time I ran the beta of windows 8. Had to actually google how to shutdown (without using alt F4 shortcut) because I couldn't believe the charms menu was the way MS intended. Seriously you would think MS has loads of smart people but the fact that someone didn't sort this out earlier seems to indicate otherwise.
RichCreedy 27th January 2014, 12:37 Quote
there has never ever been a lack of a shutdown button on windows 8/8.1, it was just in a different place. I forced windows 8 on my wife, and she quite happily uses it without problems, if she doesn't know how to do something she asks.

windows 8 /8.1 isn't broken it is just different, its a perfectly good operating system, stop bitching about it, if you don't like it, install something you do like, I have some windows 3.11 floppies laying around somewhere. ;-)
[USRF]Obiwan 27th January 2014, 15:40 Quote
Windows key + i > shutdown.

Rather have them to fix the erratic 'go to sleep when idle' sleep behavior since 8.1 release.
Krazeh 27th January 2014, 15:59 Quote
Yeah, the broken sleep behaviour is my biggest annoyance with 8.1. Worked fine before updating, but now is very hit and miss.


Sent from my Lumia 925 using Tapatalk
azazel1024 27th January 2014, 19:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by Xlog
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Yeah, because simply punching the power button or closing the laptop lid is way too complicated. :p But choices are always good.

Still, I will never know why they didn't just add Shut Down to the context menu of the user tile on the Start Screen. Seems like an obvious place to me.

Closing lid usually defaults to sleep, what if I want to hibernate/shutdown/reboot or keep laptop running? Same thing with power button.
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Originally Posted by loftie
Right click bottom left corner -> shutdown or signout -> shutdown.

And how do you switch off W8 using only a keyboard (without resorting to CLI)?

ctrl+alt+del + a whole lot of tabbing.

I'll be honest, power user I am, but it took me 15 minutes to figure out how to turn off my computer when I first installed Windows 8.

I always map my power button to sleep mode. Since it is a desktop, I don't think knocking over my monitor is going to do a whole lot.

Sure, on a laptop, shutting the lid for sleep and taping the power button for off is fine. Not so much on a desktop, which is what a lot of people still use. It bothers me little now after the adjustment.

It STILL bothers the bejesus out of me that there is no traditional application launcher/program view within the "start" menu on the desktop in 8.1 though. WHY OH WHY MICROSOFT!

On my T100 it bothers me not so much, because I am going through the "windows interface/metro" and touch interface a lot of the time anyway. On my desktop I avoid it like the plague unless I HAVE to. On my laptop (with no touch panel), pretty much the same.

RDP to my sever (which only has 8 on it) is a pain in my left nut. RDP to 7 is easy, want to run an app, just click the start menu, all programs, select what you want. Now under 8+ you have to call up the RDP options (I am speaking specifically of the metro RDP app, I don't recall off the top of my head how to get to the start screen through the desktop app), then select start and then go to the all app view (supposing it isn't pinned to the start screen). It isn't much extra in the way of selections, but it DOES take longer, is more jarring (because you are transfering UIs) and so on.

Its frankly a crap work flow and bad user centered design.

So, yeah, I hope at some point MS wises up and adds in some kind of application launcher functionality in to the desktop start menu again.
RichCreedy 27th January 2014, 21:52 Quote
if its just 8 on the remote machine, you press the windows key on your keyboard - simples
Ergath 27th January 2014, 23:42 Quote
Win + X then U then U. Bob, uncle, etc. Use WinX U then S for sleep. Takes three seconds at most.
matee 27th January 2014, 23:49 Quote
I had to google how to shut down Windows 8 after installing it.. so yeah happy to see a button.
AlienwareAndy 28th January 2014, 00:17 Quote
Or you can just press the power button on your PC, likes.
IvanIvanovich 28th January 2014, 00:22 Quote
Oh my god yes I wish they would fix the sleep problem... or more specifically the problem that once you RDP into a machine srvnet get stuck like its connected even after disconnect and won't let sleep happen EVER unless you reboot.
bulldogjeff 28th January 2014, 00:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by RichCreedy
there has never ever been a lack of a shutdown button on windows 8/8.1, it was just in a different place. I forced windows 8 on my wife, and she quite happily uses it without problems, if she doesn't know how to do something she asks.

windows 8 /8.1 isn't broken it is just different, its a perfectly good operating system, stop bitching about it, if you don't like it, install something you do like, I have some windows 3.11 floppies laying around somewhere. ;-)

I still have a brand new copy of NT 200 , never been taken out of the packaging

And I never did resolve the problems I had with the 8.1 upgrade, so I still think it's a pile of crap !!
siliconfanatic 28th January 2014, 03:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Dude,

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/Nexxo00/THISISBITTECH2_zps3fb4aafc.gif

Where we argue about trivial ****. :)
This is true, very very true.
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