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UN internet regulation treaty gets shot down

UN internet regulation treaty gets shot down

The proposed ITU treaty on the regulation of the internet has been shot down, with the UK and several other nations refusing to sign the document.

The UK, the US, Australia and Canada have all refused to sign a treaty that would give all United Nations member countries equal governance over the internet.

The treaty, drafted by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) based on an earlier proposal submitted and then withdrawn by Russia, would give the ITU an active role in the development of broadband provision and internet operation. Several aspects, including a rule which stated that the US government would have the final say on which body should regulate the internet's DNS and numbering system - required, it was claimed, to allow technical experts the ability to make rapid decisions required to ensure the stability of the 'net.

More concerning, however, were aspects of the treaty which could be argued to be providing legitimacy to the increasing censorship of the internet, providing governments carte blanche to demand blacklisting and removal of sites and services.

Those in favour of the treaty argued otherwise, stating that it would give member nations a more equal footing in the governance of the internet and provide a means to improve transparency in areas such as mobile roaming charges and data caps, as well as providing a means to help reduce the issue of spam and associated commercial abuses.

The refusal by four member nations to sign the treaty is a serious blow to the ITU's plans, and with the BBC reporting that numerous other nations including Denmark, Sweden, Finland, New Zealand and the Netherlands are delaying any agreements until further discussions can take place it's not looking like the treaty will be ratified any time in the near future.

The news will be welcomed by internet pioneer Vint Cerf and his World Wide Web equivalent Sir Tim Berners-Lee, however: the former warned ahead of the ITU's meeting that 'some governments want to use this meeting of the International Telecommunication Union to increase censorship and regulate the Internet,' while the latter added that 'countries that want to be able to block the internet and give people within their country a ‘secure’ view of what’s out there would use a treaty at the ITU as a mechanism to do that, and force other countries to fall into line with the blockages that they wanted to put in place.'

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Jezcentral 14th December 2012, 14:49 Quote
It seems odd that it's just the English-speaking Big Four. What about other Western countries like Germany our France? Or are they hiding behind the Four's refusal?
MSHunter 15th December 2012, 07:58 Quote
Germany would like to institute a chip In you ID card (like for online banking) that you have to use to access the Internet and that idea is already 3-4 years old.....
dolphie 15th December 2012, 22:59 Quote
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.
EvilRusk 16th December 2012, 01:25 Quote
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Originally Posted by dolphie
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.

Well I can tell you aren't in the UK. There is no way the brain chip would let you post that.
Yslen 16th December 2012, 13:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by EvilRusk
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Originally Posted by dolphie
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.

Well I can tell you aren't in the UK. There is no way the brain chip would let you post that.

He's probably just rooted it.
ev1lm1nd666 16th December 2012, 14:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Yslen
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Originally Posted by EvilRusk
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Originally Posted by dolphie
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.

Must be another "secure" Sony product ;}

Well I can tell you aren't in the UK. There is no way the brain chip would let you post that.

He's probably just rooted it.
ev1lm1nd666 16th December 2012, 14:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by Yslen
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Originally Posted by EvilRusk
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Originally Posted by dolphie
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.



Well I can tell you aren't in the UK. There is no way the brain chip would let you post that.

He's probably just rooted it.

Must be another "secure" Sony product ;}
tuk 16th December 2012, 14:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by MSHunter
Germany would like to institute a chip In you ID card (like for online banking) that you have to use to access the Internet and that idea is already 3-4 years old.....
We already have that in the UK, its called a MAC code ..for once we are ahead of ze Germans
dolphie 16th December 2012, 23:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by EvilRusk
Well I can tell you aren't in the UK. There is no way the brain chip would let you post that.

You just have to wear a tin foil hat. But I hear the new firmware will make the signal stronger. The only solution is to :(

Or move to China for the more relaxed government
Petrol head 18th December 2012, 01:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by dolphie
The UK would like to institute a chip in our brains. Whenever you go shopping you just swipe your head across the laser and it automatically charges your bank account, and if you try to buy any alcohol or cakes an alarm goes off and it's confiscated because it's bad for you and costs the NHS too much. And any food with fat or sugar you immediately get charged an extra 'obesity tax'. And to use the internet you have to again scan the chip in your brain and it allocates you a 5 minute internet session per day (to promote productivity in the workplace) and you are restricted only to sanctioned websites - BBC, and Ebay. Porn is strictly forbidden and so is Amazon because they don't pay tax. And if you try to search for anything naughty the net is cut off and the police show up and beat you with a stick.

The only reason they don't do this is because they know everyone would just put on a hoodie and storm parliament and everything would be ransacked and looted and any MP's in there would get bummed.

And that is how democracy works.

I think you are giving our government too much credit. Anything even as remotely interesting as that would be blocked by one of the other parties. Not because they genuinely oppose the plan, just because they can. Next election they can call them ineffective and it goes round again. Only when no one is interested does anything happen in our government. That's why we will stagnate to ruin one day in the distant future. Complete inability to make an important decision that is not forced upon them.
dolphie 18th December 2012, 22:28 Quote
Lol. Oh and you're a petrol head! I forgot to say that if you drive over 40 mph the chip makes your head explode. And you are still fined £200 and 3 points.
Petrol head 19th December 2012, 19:24 Quote
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Lol. Oh and you're a petrol head! I forgot to say that if you drive over 40 mph the chip makes your head explode. And you are still fined £200 and 3 points.

Oh that's why I hear a bang at least 4 times a day. Not received a fine yet though.

The name is based on my profession. I do deal with more diesels but at the time it seemed appropriate. I would never have thought to use what my youngest calls Dolphins. He is only 11 months bless him.
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