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Microsoft drops DVD support from Windows 8

Microsoft drops DVD support from Windows 8

Windows 8 will not feature DVD playback natively, Microsoft has confirmed, requiring users to install third-party software or buy the Windows 8 Media Centre Pack.

Microsoft has released more details about Windows 8's entertainment chops, confirming that Windows Media Centre will be a paid-for add-on - and mandatory if users want DVD playback support.

All current versions of Windows include bundled software for playback of DVDs, requiring third-party packages only if Blu-ray playback is required. Windows 8, by contrast, will mandate the installation of Windows Media Centre or a third-party equivalent before DVDs can be played.

'Windows Media Player will continue to be available in all editions, but without DVD playback support,' Microsoft's Bernardo Caldas revealed in a blog post late last night. 'For optical discs playback on new Windows 8 devices, we are going to rely on the many quality solutions on the market, which provide great experiences for both DVD and Blu-ray.'

The dropping of DVD playback support comes as Microsoft announces a deal with Dolby to, ironically enough, improve the audiovisual capabilities of its new operating system. Under the deal, all Windows 8 releases - including the ARM-compatible Windows RT - will include support for Dolby Digital Plus 5.1-channel audio as well as Dolby Digital stereo audio.

Dolby Digital Plus support will, however, be limited to downloaded or streamed content: playback of Dolby Digital Plus content from optical media will, as with DVD and Blu-ray playback, require third party software.

Dolby Digital Plus joins AAC, WMA, MP3 and PCM and M4A, ASF, MP3 and WAV containers as the bundled audio codecs for release with Windows 8. Microsoft has also confirmed that H.264, VC-1, WMV, and MPEG 4 Part 2 video will be supported in AVI, MPEG-2 TS, MP4 and ASF containers. Other formats, such as FLAC, MKV and OGG, will require third-party codec installation.

For those looking to add Media Centre to Windows 8, there's some good news: the add-on will be available for all consumer releases with the sole exception of Windows RT. Using the 'Add Features to Windows 8' menu, users can install the Windows 8 Media Centre Pack on to Windows 8 Pro; those who purchased the cheaper Windows 8 release will instead be expected to buy the Windows 8 Pro Pack, which upgrades the system to Windows Pro and includes the Media Centre Pack as a bundle.

While the upgrade adds DVD playback support, it's only operational through Media Centre itself; even with the Media Centre Pack installed, Windows Media Player will be unable to play back DVDs. The upgrade also adds DBV-T/S, ISDB-S/T, DMBH and ATSC broadcast recording and playback where compatible hardware is present, and direct playback of VOB files.

What Microsoft isn't yet sharing is the price, stating only that the upgrade will 'be in line with marginal costs.'

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azrael- 4th May 2012, 11:30 Quote
Microsoft just keeps sweetening the deal for Win8...
MrJay 4th May 2012, 11:45 Quote
Yeah id totally over complicate things too...
sandys 4th May 2012, 11:46 Quote
In other news - Sandy drops support for Windows 8 :D

To be fair I use Cyberlink power DVD due to Bluray....perhaps it doesn't matter.
fix-the-spade 4th May 2012, 11:46 Quote
So, when's the announcement that it's being renamed to Vista Plus coming?
do_it_anyway 4th May 2012, 11:47 Quote
Sometimes you have to wonder what goes on in the mind of the suits in these meetings.

Unless I've got it completely wrong, DVD playback doesn't have the same security constraints as, say, blu-ray. In that no-one has to pay a "fee" to get the security details to pay them.
This is why there are many free DVD solutions, but few if any free Blu-ray players.

So Microsoft are basically saying "lets remove something that costs us nothing, so that we can look like miserable gits".

You know, I laugh at Apple sometimes and the way they take people for idiots. Seems the people at Microsoft are no better.........
bulldogjeff 4th May 2012, 11:55 Quote
I have always looked forward to the next OS right back from Win 95, but the more I read about Win 8 the less I see any reason to move away from Win 7. It does just what I need it to.

It looks like MS finally realized that they had got it right with Win 7 after the crap with Vista and though, Hey lets go mess it all up again.

I wonder what goes on in these peoples heads some times
GuilleAcoustic 4th May 2012, 11:57 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by fix-the-spade
So, when's the announcement that it's being renamed to Vista Plus coming?

or Vista millenium :D
faugusztin 4th May 2012, 12:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by do_it_anyway
Unless I've got it completely wrong, DVD playback doesn't have the same security constraints as, say, blu-ray. In that no-one has to pay a "fee" to get the security details to pay them.

You have to pay fee, see http://www.dvdcca.org/css.aspx

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Originally Posted by do_it_anyway
This is why there are many free DVD solutions, but few if any free Blu-ray players.

They all use DeCSS.
Quote:
Originally Posted by do_it_anyway
So Microsoft are basically saying "lets remove something that costs us nothing, so that we can look like miserable gits".

No, they decided it is not worth for them to pay for licences which not many use anymore. If you want DVD playback, you will either get yourself a paid player, or solve it for yourself somehow (VLC, XBMC, other players).
jamesd1981 4th May 2012, 12:18 Quote
Thanks microsoft, you might think you were being your usually smart greedy selves, but you have actually done us a favour but not clogging up good drive space with your crap !

Other than windows and office all microsoft software is rubbish, the media centre and media player only play a couple of formats anyway.

I don`t think i know anyone who actually uses media centre.
Necrow 4th May 2012, 12:19 Quote
VLC media player FTW
GuilleAcoustic 4th May 2012, 12:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by jamesd1981
I don`t think i know anyone who actually uses media centre.

I did, out of curiosity ... and I went back to XBMC after something like 5 minutes.
Cogwulf 4th May 2012, 12:41 Quote
Finally. It's about time they stopped bundling windows with all their crap and let me choose for myself.
sandys 4th May 2012, 12:54 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cogwulf
Finally. It's about time they stopped bundling windows with all their crap and let me choose for myself.

I'd agree if it makes it cheaper but all it really means is like games it'll be the same price but with expensive DLC for the full experience.
stay 4th May 2012, 13:05 Quote
I cannot see business buying into Win 8 so Win 7 will become the new XP for the next 10 years...
j_jay4 4th May 2012, 13:10 Quote
Am I right in thinking that Win8 Media Centre (that we are now going to have to pay more for) will give you DVD playback but won't support blu-ray playback? Why on earth would I pay twice, once for Media Centre and then for third party software to play my blu-rays? It's as if they don't want me to use Media Centre at all.

And I don't understand this line: "For those looking to add Media Centre to Windows 8, there's some good news:". What good news? I have to buy the more expensive version of windows to get what I already have?

And why would pro(fessional)s want Windows Media Centre? Or Metro for that reason. Surely these should be in the Standard "Home" edition?

Long gone are my dreams of having the OS support blu-ray and DVD playback.
Platinum 4th May 2012, 13:19 Quote
Wait what, Zero Day DLC for a OS?
B1GBUD 4th May 2012, 14:00 Quote
Having tried to get to grips with Win8 and the lack of any X-Fi drivers amongst other issues, I'm switching back to Win7 and won't be re-visiting Win8
XXAOSICXX 4th May 2012, 14:15 Quote
Holy cow, there are some whiners on here.

Who the hell plays DVDs through their Windows PC anyway, with torrents and streaming coming out of our ears....I have literally *never* watched a DVD through my PC. I have external DVD and Blu-ray players for that. If you really do want to then download VLC (or similar) for absolutely nothing.

Meanwhile, surely most of us media-centre owning types are running XBMC these days anyway? I know I am.

I'm quite happy to have such things stripped out of the OS....and, if you remember, one of the biggest complaints about Vista was the media services running in the background all the time which nobody ever used.

There's just no pleasing some people...

Oh, and saying "Other than windows and office all microsoft software is rubbish" is such plain stupid.
greypilgers 4th May 2012, 14:18 Quote
I echo some of the above, if they are shaving off features from previous Windows under the pretence of them being added as paid 'apps' by the user at a later date then I sincerely hope this is reflected in the retail price of the product. Rather cynically, I very much doubt it will though.
GuilleAcoustic 4th May 2012, 14:38 Quote
I do play DvD through my Pc since I do not download. Plus my CRT Tv is dying and I'm planning to build a beamer, connected to my PC to replace it :D.

Well, I really prefear having the choice so I won't complain if corsoft removes every single software that isn't mandatory to run Windows. Now, except Window 7, everything I use are free softwares (myPaint, Gimp, Netbean, Notepad++, etc etc etc).
runadumb 4th May 2012, 14:42 Quote
I'm surprised so many people here (of all places) give a crap. I haven't even had an optical drive in my PC for two years. Which I admit is missed now and again for CD rips (I still buy cd's) but is not an issue 99% of the time. I even bought BF3 on disk only to open the case for the key and download it from origin so I didn't have to pay 40 bleeding quid for it.
Free DVD playback software is easy to find and often already on peoples computers as they are great media players anyway.
GuilleAcoustic 4th May 2012, 15:03 Quote
Of course, there's always a free soft :D ... I was in the same position than you. No optical for 2 years or so (thanks to Steam and bootable USB drives). I only bought one to rip my CDs and play an old game.
azazel1024 4th May 2012, 15:20 Quote
So let me get this straight, they drop DVD playback support, and then you have to pay for it...but if you pay for it, you don't also get Blu Ray support. Damnit it man, the least you could do is add in the ability to have "native" blu ray support even if you have to pay for it.

Well, whatever, I only use my Blu Ray drive to rip DVDs and Blu Ray disks anyway, not for watching.
Gundam God 4th May 2012, 15:34 Quote
Hardly a bit deal at all, can't remember the last time I ever used WMP.

Still, win8 is going to have to be a hell of a lot better than 7 if you want me to upgrade from Vista.
Bazz 4th May 2012, 15:35 Quote
Haven't used DVD's for at least 2 years, so I don't care much
XXAOSICXX 4th May 2012, 15:38 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by azazel1024
So let me get this straight, they drop DVD playback support, and then you have to pay for it...

No, you don't *have* to pay for it. You pay for it if you want WMP to play it for you. You don't have to do anything.
kenco_uk 4th May 2012, 15:39 Quote
Are they including BD playback as standard? Just dropping DVD playback, yes?

;)

I would presume it's to avoid the possibilities of our overlords deciding whether MS are working to guidelines by waiting for MS to release their OS with all sorts of built-in capabilites that negate the need to purchase further programs to do something (in this case) as innocent as playing back a dvd movie. It's just MS playing it safe so they're not hit with any fines, in my opinion.

It's all about choice... pffft :P
azrael- 4th May 2012, 16:17 Quote
Since my initial comment I've given this some thought. Clearly now is the time to rip all the DRM crap out of Windows as there's no longer any legitimate need for it. If you have to use 3rd party products said 3rd party products should implement their own DRM infrastructure. Let's all hold our breath waiting for this to happen... ;)
Doctor Hades 4th May 2012, 16:28 Quote
I jumped at the chance to install Windows 7, mainly because Vista was so bloody awful, but am I the only one who is not in the slightest bit excited about Windows 8? I hate the new interface and suspect that this will be another disappointment to join Windows Me and Vista.
greypilgers 4th May 2012, 16:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Hades
I jumped at the chance to install Windows 7, mainly because Vista was so bloody awful, but am I the only one who is not in the slightest bit excited about Windows 8? I hate the new interface and suspect that this will be another disappointment to join Windows Me and Vista.

Amen, brother!

;)
Joey Propane 4th May 2012, 17:19 Quote
For us software and tech savvy this doesn't mean alot, but spare a thought for the untold thousands of older and/or less knowledgeable folk out there who will be duped into buying a new (probably overpriced and under-specced...) Windows 8 laptop/desktop to replace their current machine only to find they can't play DVD's anymore.
runadumb 4th May 2012, 17:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor Hades
I jumped at the chance to install Windows 7, mainly because Vista was so bloody awful, but am I the only one who is not in the slightest bit excited about Windows 8? I hate the new interface and suspect that this will be another disappointment to join Windows Me and Vista.

I had no problems with Vista after the initial install and driver setup, a process that very nearly had my foot going through my PC. After that it was smooth sailing. Only reason I jumped to win 7 on release was it was only £45. Worth every penny.

I, like others here, see no reason at all to leave windows 7. Metro looks nice for tablets but not for a desktop. Whenever I get a laptop/tablet hybrid device I will give it a go but not until then.
Gareth Halfacree 4th May 2012, 17:34 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by XXAOSICXX
No, you don't *have* to pay for it. You pay for it if you want WMP to play it for you. You don't have to do anything.
Re-read the article: even if you buy the Windows 8 Media Centre Pack (or the Windows 8 Pro Pack if you didn't buy Windows 8 Pro,) Windows Media Player will not play DVDs; only Media Centre (or third-party software) can play DVDs.
Noob? 4th May 2012, 17:48 Quote
Being a MC user, this isn't good news, I wasn't even aware, think I'll stick to Win7 if this is the case, serves me well!

What really intrigues me is what the cost of the "OS" will be without the pack at its levels? And what the Media Pack will cost and bring to the table?
Woodspoon 4th May 2012, 17:56 Quote
Another reason to not change to Windows 8
blohum 4th May 2012, 18:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesd1981
I don`t think i know anyone who actually uses media centre.

I do and I think it's brilliant... it even passed the wife test, and that's saying something.
faxiij 4th May 2012, 20:30 Quote
same **** as with game developers. they start developing for multiple platforms, games are **** on at least one of them. same with windows. kinda get the idea and understand and like the base idea of uniting the user experience between smartphone, tablet and notebook/computer/all-in-one. it is a very attractive idea. it just wont work out. by now im quite confident it will turn it as with xp/vista - a huge lot will stay with 7 (as with the former xp) and only move on when windows published the successor to win8, which hopefully will have learned from the mistakes ms are now doing with win8.
Nexxo 4th May 2012, 21:16 Quote
...And this is why Apple is wiping the floor with the competition. It caters quite unashamedly for the average non-techie user who just wants to enjoy their web and media. Microsoft meanwhile makes it increasingly complicated for ordinary people to do ordinary things.

I mean, WTF. Is Microsoft hell-bent on destroying itself?!?
Fizzban 4th May 2012, 21:30 Quote
Wait for Windows 9 people. When 8 bombs maybe Microsoft will try to right their wrongs like they did with 7 after Vista. Think of 8 as a beta version, just one you pay for..lol
LordPyrinc 4th May 2012, 21:38 Quote
+1 for staying with Windows 7.
faugusztin 4th May 2012, 21:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzban
Wait for Windows 9 people. When 8 bombs maybe Microsoft will try to right their wrongs like they did with 7 after Vista. Think of 8 as a beta version, just one you pay for..lol

Not going to happen.
SpAceman 4th May 2012, 23:40 Quote
Don't give a crap. VLC/XBMC is all I need.
yodasarmpit 4th May 2012, 23:47 Quote
I'm struggling to remember the last time I watched a DVD. Seriously, it's so long ago that the media seems irrelevant to me.
azrael- 5th May 2012, 00:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
I'm struggling to remember the last time I watched a DVD. Seriously, it's so long ago that the media seems irrelevant to me.
You're hooked on Youtube clips instead...? :p
ssj12 5th May 2012, 02:47 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fizzban
Wait for Windows 9 people. When 8 bombs maybe Microsoft will try to right their wrongs like they did with 7 after Vista. Think of 8 as a beta version, just one you pay for..lol

na, by the time Win9 is out, Steam for Linux will be out and there will be a ton of games on it. I wont ever need Windows again by then!!!!!!
XXAOSICXX 5th May 2012, 10:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joey Propane
spare a thought for the untold thousands of older and/or less knowledgeable folk out there who will be duped into buying a new (probably overpriced and under-specced...) Windows 8 laptop/desktop to replace their current machine only to find they can't play DVD's anymore.

I don't really think that'll be the case, to be honest. Remember, we might all build our own machines, but those people buying a turd-of-a-computer from PC World and the like get machines with pre-installed software coming out of their ears. If you've ever bought a Sony Vaio, HP, Dell or similar computer....you can spend a day just removing the s**t you don't want off it. Those machines always come with DVD playback software.

This change isn't going to affect anybody.
DXR_13KE 5th May 2012, 11:32 Quote
I can not remember the last time i played a DVD on my pc.
slothy89 5th May 2012, 15:29 Quote
To be honest this doesn't effect me for 2 reasons:
1) I never use WMP, as I find it to be annoying... VLC+iTunes is so much nicer
2) I don't plan to purchase Win8 anyway -_-
SexyHyde 5th May 2012, 18:32 Quote
I can hear the phone ringing now from friends, family and work mates to tell me their new computer is broken. I know loads of people who use their laptops to watch dvds. The last DVD I brought I watched only on my pc. The average user doesn't download movies and doesn't stream movies. We all do, and some of our no techie friends may, but MOST people still by DVDs. I have win 7 so it doesn't effect me. I have win 8 con pre which just does nothing to convince people its a must have. I'm sticking purely to win 7 for games and will likely move over to linuxmint when the steam client is mature.
Harksar 5th May 2012, 19:07 Quote
I watch a lot of DVDs on my computer, internet connection sucks in my area, but I use VLC anyway.
erratum1 5th May 2012, 20:19 Quote
It's 2012 and you can't pop a DVD into a windows 8 pc, seems a bit lame.
Guinevere 5th May 2012, 21:01 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum
Wait what, Zero Day DLC for a OS?

Yes. Just like so many versions of windows before it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Plus!
Burnout21 5th May 2012, 21:17 Quote
I used the MC function for about half an hour in Win7, didn't like it very much so switched back to XBMC, (note this was after a fresh install of Win7 on a new HTPC and i wondered if it was worth the hassle of installing my custom XBMC all over again.)

I made a heavy switch over to Ubuntu this time last year and my desktops dual boot with Win7 when either i need to run Solidworks or kill something.. The metro UI has put me off Win8, so too little too late frankly.

Microsoft seem to be at the cutting edge in there R&D but nothing filters down to the consumer..
ICISAZEL 6th May 2012, 00:07 Quote
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ICISAZEL 6th May 2012, 00:11 Quote
Windows 8 will be just as expensive if not more so than 7 regardless. Even though in some countries it will be a decent price ... Good luck. With steam coming to Linux I think ms are looking to squeeze out all the cash they can before they have to adjust to more competition...

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DragunovHUN 6th May 2012, 15:55 Quote
All the more reason to stick with Win7.
wafflesomd 7th May 2012, 00:38 Quote
Misleading title. Support dropped from windows media player, not from the OS itself.
Gareth Halfacree 7th May 2012, 08:12 Quote
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Originally Posted by wafflesomd
Misleading title. Support dropped from windows media player, not from the OS itself.
Perfectly accurate title: Windows 8, unlike Windows 7, Vista and XP, will not be able to play DVDs unless additional software is purchased. Thus: Windows 8 does not support DVD playback, but previous Windows versions did. Which gives us: Microsoft drops DVD support from Windows 8.

Ta-da.
[PUNK] crompers 7th May 2012, 10:42 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesd1981
Thanks microsoft, you might think you were being your usually smart greedy selves, but you have actually done us a favour but not clogging up good drive space with your crap !

Other than windows and office all microsoft software is rubbish, the media centre and media player only play a couple of formats anyway.

I don`t think i know anyone who actually uses media centre.

as long as the savings are passed to the customer im all for it, somehow i cant see it though
Bindibadgi 7th May 2012, 11:30 Quote
What's a DVD, Daddy?

My kids will only know how to surf to a network drive.
greypilgers 7th May 2012, 11:57 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindibadgi
What's a DVD, Daddy?

My kids will only know how to surf to a network drive.

LoL... Ahh, to be one of the privileged, eh?

:p
mikewok 7th May 2012, 13:59 Quote
VLC media is the case here. To be honest I never trusted Microsoft.
sofalover 8th May 2012, 09:30 Quote
I wonder how many moaning on here with faces like smacked arses last actually played a DVD?
As far as I'm concerned it's an obsolete media.
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