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Virgin pledges 100Mb broadband for third of UK

Virgin pledges 100Mb broadband for third of UK

Need more internet? Virgin Media thinks it has the answer.

Virgin Media has announced that it’s on track to upgrade its entire network to 100Mb-capable fibre-optic cable by the middle of 2012, pledging to bring super-fast broadband to a third of the UK.

Jon James, executive director of broadband, said: ‘We’re very proud to reach another significant milestone in our broadband history as we play a leading part in the development of the UK’s next generation infrastructure.

Virgin Media says that residents in Harborne in Birmingham, Seven Kings in Greater London and all of Solihull will be able to sign up to 100Mb speeds as of today. You can check your predicted speed via Virgin Media’s post code checker.

Virgin Media also says that the 100Mb speed isn’t just marketing fluff. The typical speed of a 100Mb connection is said to be 91.8Mb/sec (over a 24-hour period). Virgin Media publishes its speeds so you can check the actual expected speed of any new connection against the quoted speed. Virgin Media also won the prestigious Expert Reviews Ultimate award for its services.

Can’t wait for the upgrade, or are you already nomming your way through the internet in 100Mb chunks? Let us know in the forum.

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yodasarmpit 3rd November 2011, 14:48 Quote
Thats a hell of a lot of roads to dig up to manage even 1/3 of the Nation.
Or in other words, Virgin are making super fast broadband available in the larger urban areas.
yassarikhan786 3rd November 2011, 14:49 Quote
Nice. The fastest in my area is currently 50Mb/s
Durd 3rd November 2011, 14:54 Quote
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....
B1GBUD 3rd November 2011, 14:58 Quote
Well I get 50Mb all day, everyday. I don't do p2p or anything like that, so I'm probably the model customer.
Abhorsen 3rd November 2011, 14:59 Quote
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Originally Posted by Durd
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....

Durd if you check the stats (and the article) you will see that Virgin are actual reasonably accurate with their speeds.

I'm on their 50mb connection at the moment and i vary from 46-52mb down and 3-4mb up.
greypilgers 3rd November 2011, 15:00 Quote
Smeg that... I'd be happy with 5Mb cable broadband - they didn't bother to put it in my housing estate...
NuTech 3rd November 2011, 15:01 Quote
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Originally Posted by Durd
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....
I find that's only true with ADSL connections. My 50Mb cable easily gets 49-50Mb/sec if the remote server can handle it. Steam, Dropbox, iTunes and my work's FTP server downloads at those speeds no problem.

However, the biggest problem with Virgin is their awful traffic shaping technology that kicks in during 'peak' hours (which is practically any time that isn't the early hours of the morning). It's meant to just throttle dodgy peer-to-peer connections, but is reality is effects so many legit services like Youtube, MMO's, Xbox Live etc. While it has improved over the last few months, it's definitely not something you'd expect on a premium broadband service.
shigllgetcha 3rd November 2011, 15:11 Quote
This is a third of customers as i read it, not a third geographically so not as good as it sounds.

Still good news to some
guvnar 3rd November 2011, 15:11 Quote
I certainly hope that they install it in my street but after 11 years living in the north of Bristol (hardly a village) I keep being told they have no plans to come into our area!

Let's see how serious they are then...
NethLyn 3rd November 2011, 15:14 Quote
The annual BS from Virgin, make it "end of 2012" and I'll believe it, they wouldn't even commit to putting cable boxes higher up on the walls (if you're on the first floor) to stop kids from kicking them out when they're bored, on the one occasion I was tempted by one of their offers, and it's irritating that they never include the phone line rental on their headline offers.

Every time they've announced a speed increase it's taken 18 months to two years, I gave up on them three years ago and they're still talking the same flannel even now.
SchizoFrog 3rd November 2011, 15:15 Quote
So they continue to upgrade their existing network and those who can't get Fibre connections are still left with crappy ADSL2 that promises up to 20mb but I barely hit 3mb. Oh, and I live in the East End of London so it isn't just rural areas that are left behind.
Kojak 3rd November 2011, 15:16 Quote
Thank god for Virgin! After 3 years of hell with BT's lies and capping my line every other month after each time getting it uncapped I have just moved to Virgin three weeks ago. I went with the XL package and they guaranteed me 30mb. Each time I do a speed test it shows I'm getting speeds of between 29mb and 31mb. I can't ask for anymore than that, the service is brilliant. Hats off to Virgin for stamping all over rip off merchants BT!

30mb feels incredibly fast to me, 100 must be nothing short of amazing!

Thankyou Virgin :-)
RevDarny 3rd November 2011, 15:18 Quote
You'd think they'd start putting cable into the places that currently don't have the option of cable. There are so many housing estates and roads where I live where the cable service only goes to the entrance of a road. I'm literally 30 minutes from central London and not that rural i'm sure it's the same in other parts of the UK.
DriftCarl 3rd November 2011, 15:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by Durd
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....

Same thing happened with my parents,
If you have the old grey NTL home box(pre2008) it cant handle the sync speeds, phone them up and get them to send you a brand new cable modem. My parents went from 2mb to 48mb
greypilgers 3rd November 2011, 15:22 Quote
Why don't they concentrate on putting fibre for EVERYONE instead of increasing the speeds to ridiculous levels for the minority?
-Xp- 3rd November 2011, 15:23 Quote
But what is the daily/monthly data cap?
Tsung 3rd November 2011, 15:24 Quote
Virgin, BT are as bad as each other, every time they announce a new speed or technology they "reset" the rollouts. So those who are already on high speed (20mb+) broadband get offered even higher speed whilst those on standard ADSL are left further behind in the dark ages.

BT might argue they do this due to demand, but there will never be demand for high speed broadband in non-high speed areas because people living there don't have a choice. Do virgin media even roll out to new areas anymore?
sp0rk 3rd November 2011, 15:26 Quote
They keep saying we can get it but when I applied, after four weeks they decided they weren't going to dig the road up for the last 6 feet to my house and turned us down.. right after I'd already cancelled my previous ISP!

And still their postcode checker says yes!
TheKrumpet 3rd November 2011, 15:26 Quote
I can't wait for Virgin's coverage to be more widespread, they've certainly earned themselves a good reputation as an ISP. One thing I really like is the absolute transparency they have on their website with regards to their policies on peak times, average speeds, what 'up to xxMBit/s' will actually work out as. +1 to any company who tries to keep the customers informed.
GiantKiwi 3rd November 2011, 15:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by Abhorsen
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Originally Posted by Durd
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....

Durd if you check the stats (and the article) you will see that Virgin are actual reasonably accurate with their speeds.

I'm on their 50mb connection at the moment and i vary from 46-52mb down and 3-4mb up.

So I'm just imagining that the 20mb connection i have spends most of the time either at less than 1mb or not working then? get real.
Anfield 3rd November 2011, 15:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by TheKrumpet
I can't wait for Virgin's coverage to be more widespread, they've certainly earned themselves a good reputation as an ISP. One thing I really like is the absolute transparency they have on their website with regards to their policies on peak times, average speeds, what 'up to xxMBit/s' will actually work out as. +1 to any company who tries to keep the customers informed.

Yep, the speed is pretty much as promised, that is as long as you stay within their restrictions.

The actual restrictions of Virgin:
Do not attempt to use youtube, or play mmorpgs, or use p2p (not even for legal uses, like for example games that use it such as Trackmania, WoW, CoD). Also no large downloads from 10am to midnight (read no buying Games on Steam).
Snips 3rd November 2011, 15:37 Quote
I've already got it ;)
Abhorsen 3rd November 2011, 15:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by GiantKiwi
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Originally Posted by Abhorsen
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Originally Posted by Durd
Well, it will be the usual "up to" speed.

I have "up to" 50mb/s, but I'm lucky to get a tenth of that. Most the time it's below 1mb/s....

Durd if you check the stats (and the article) you will see that Virgin are actual reasonably accurate with their speeds.

I'm on their 50mb connection at the moment and i vary from 46-52mb down and 3-4mb up.

So I'm just imagining that the 20mb connection i have spends most of the time either at less than 1mb or not working then? get real.

Chill out fella. Obviously there are exceptions i was merely stating that Virgin out of all of the ISPs in the UK consistantly come out on top for reaching their claimed speeds. If you have an issue with them don't get butt hurt when i state the truth according to surveys.
Edwards 3rd November 2011, 15:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by -Xp-
But what is the daily/monthly data cap?

What's a data cap? :? Must be some silly thing that amateur ISPs come up with.
Durd 3rd November 2011, 15:47 Quote
Of course they're getting close to the speeds they advertise at the moment - so few people are on 100mb/s connections.

Just wait until they start overselling it.

I'm on a brand new connection, set up 2 months ago, new hardware and all. I'm lucky if it doesn't drop at least 3-5 times a day. It's like being back on dial up at times.
mars-bar-man 3rd November 2011, 15:59 Quote
Oh, 100mb, that's nice. Wonder if they can provide the 30mb we're paying for atm...

Nope, decided to over subscribe my area and are now in the process of upgrading it for next year.. which leaves us with intermittent connections. FU Virgin, go suck one :)
r3loaded 3rd November 2011, 16:02 Quote
In theory, Virgin Media do have their peak time throttling thing. In practice, I've never actually experienced this on my connection (30Mbit, Stretford UBR). As a test, I downloaded 20GB of data non-stop from about 11am on a weekday until it completed. On 30Mbit, I'm supposed to be throttled if I use more than 10GB, yet I wasn't throttled at all that day. I've never had issues with torrents or any sort of P2P software, streaming or Steam or any general connection issues either (using the Superhub in pure modem mode, I must add).

The issues that so many irate customers have is probably due to their location, as VM's network is a mix of different technologies used by the old cable companies in different parts of the country (anyone remember Mercury, NYNEX, Bell Cablemedia and Vidéotron?). I think the different characteristics of these networks have been responsible for the varying quality of their service in different parts of the country.
John_T 3rd November 2011, 16:03 Quote
"Virgin pledges 100Mb broadband for third of UK"

Well the metropolitan area of London alone makes up the best part of a quarter of the population of the UK. Add in a couple more high density areas such as Birmingham and bingo - over a third of the UK population via just a few percent of the geographical area.

I'm with Virgin via their ADSL 'up to' 10Mb service, and sure, if I want to surf at 2 in the morning I can get over 2Mb+, but peak times? Lucky to break 1Mb, and very usually below 0.5Mb. And no, I don't live in a village in the arse end of no-where either.

But sure, all kudos for taking people already on good infrastructure and taking the easy step of shifting them up even higher. Keep aiming for that low hanging fruit...
John_T 3rd November 2011, 16:06 Quote
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damien c 3rd November 2011, 16:19 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anfield
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Originally Posted by TheKrumpet
I can't wait for Virgin's coverage to be more widespread, they've certainly earned themselves a good reputation as an ISP. One thing I really like is the absolute transparency they have on their website with regards to their policies on peak times, average speeds, what 'up to xxMBit/s' will actually work out as. +1 to any company who tries to keep the customers informed.

Yep, the speed is pretty much as promised, that is as long as you stay within their restrictions.

The actual restrictions of Virgin:
Do not attempt to use youtube, or play mmorpgs, or use p2p (not even for legal uses, like for example games that use it such as Trackmania, WoW, CoD). Also no large downloads from 10am to midnight (read no buying Games on Steam).

I have the 100mb connection and I get 11.8MB download speed and 1MB upload speed, which is 100mb down and 10mb up on any service except Steam, and that is because there servers are overloaded.

I know a few thing's about the Traffic Management but I cannot and will not say what they are as they are not final yet, but let me tell you something now it's better than it was if they go with it.

Oh and so you know I am forwarding this page link on to the people who deal with this type of false statement and also on to Niel Birkett
Rustypouch 3rd November 2011, 16:26 Quote
OT: I live in a village in the arse end of no-where and I get downloads at roughly 2.4MB/sec downloads all day and night on ADSL2+. I think has a lot to do with your provider and their back haul.

I wouldn't mind having Virgin Cable in my area for their TV services though. I refuse to pay Sky a penny while they still charge you extra for HD Content.
Krikkit 3rd November 2011, 16:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by yodasarmpit
Thats a hell of a lot of roads to dig up to manage even 1/3 of the Nation.
Or in other words, Virgin are making super fast broadband available in the larger urban areas.
All they'll do is expand the hardware capable of delivering 100Mb to the customers they already serve... Doubt they'll be digging anything. :)

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Originally Posted by Rustypouch
OT: I live in a village in the arse end of no-where and I get downloads at roughly 2.4MB/sec downloads all day and night on ADSL2+. I think has a lot to do with your provider and their back haul.

I wouldn't mind having Virgin Cable in my area for their TV services though. I refuse to pay Sky a penny while they still charge you extra for HD Content.

You can't live in the arse end of nowhere with an unbundled local exchange! ;)
runadumb 3rd November 2011, 16:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Anfield
Yep, the speed is pretty much as promised, that is as long as you stay within their restrictions.

The actual restrictions of Virgin:
Do not attempt to use youtube, or play mmorpgs, or use p2p (not even for legal uses, like for example games that use it such as Trackmania, WoW, CoD). Also no large downloads from 10am to midnight (read no buying Games on Steam).

Your bum. I absolutely hammered my 50meg connection earlier this year(hyperspin...). 500Gig hammered, and they never said a thing. I mostly kept it out of hours but anytime I buy a game on steam I just gulp it down there and then.

No fuss from them and I've been a customer for years. Last christmas even during the steam sale. Must have downloaded 40gig in a day.
Durd 3rd November 2011, 17:14 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anfield
Yep, the speed is pretty much as promised, that is as long as you stay within their restrictions.

The actual restrictions of Virgin:
Do not attempt to use youtube, or play mmorpgs, or use p2p (not even for legal uses, like for example games that use it such as Trackmania, WoW, CoD). Also no large downloads from 10am to midnight (read no buying Games on Steam).

So, anything that uses bandwidth basically? What's the point in a 8Mb/s connection, let alone 100 if all you can do is load basic websites a fraction of a second faster. The reason you get a quick connection is to download/ upload a lot quickly. Not for bragging rights.
DeathAwaitsU 3rd November 2011, 17:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by SchizoFrog
So they continue to upgrade their existing network and those who can't get Fibre connections are still left with crappy ADSL2 that promises up to 20mb but I barely hit 3mb. Oh, and I live in the East End of London so it isn't just rural areas that are left behind.

This! I'm in the centre of blackpool and stuck with shitty adsl yet the next street has real virgin (ie cable) :/ piss take tbh
d1ck0 3rd November 2011, 17:51 Quote
I was on 50mb for over a year and ALWAYS got 51 - 56mb speeds , I have now just downgraded to 30 mb and get 30mb speeds too , I downgraded as I wasn't using the 50mb service enough to justify the cost ! :( , btw i'm in the manchester area.
ecviper 3rd November 2011, 18:16 Quote
most of the brand new development high rise development flats in Canary Wharf, London, 'the financial heart of Europe', only come with ADSL sockets. Bit of a lottery to find cabled flats even in London!
BioSniper 3rd November 2011, 18:20 Quote
What's really annoying is that I'm on 50Mb and get 50Mb all the time and 100Mb has been rolled out to every exchange around me, just not mine!
Something to do with being a hub in the south I hear so they will do us last :(
Leitchy 3rd November 2011, 18:42 Quote
Do not care. I'm happy with 50mb downstream, now give me something over 15/20mb and I'll give them another tenner a month
Omnituens 3rd November 2011, 19:12 Quote
apparently i can get 100mb, but I am happy with the 50. I'd LIKE 100, but 50 is ok.
r3loaded 3rd November 2011, 19:48 Quote
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Originally Posted by runadumb
Your bum. I absolutely hammered my 50meg connection earlier this year(hyperspin...). 500Gig hammered, and they never said a thing. I mostly kept it out of hours but anytime I buy a game on steam I just gulp it down there and then.
I did about 1.2TB back in September - they didn't say a thing either. I believe one rep on their forum mentioned that they don't classify you as detrimental to their network unless you're pulling in something like 4TB(!) or more per month.

Several people here mentioned that they're close to VM's lines but can't get the service at their house. If that's the case, it's worth check this page here as they can usually sort something for you: http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Fibre-optic-broadband-cable/Want-Cable-been-told-it-s-not-available-We-might-be-able-to-help/td-p/20585
debs3759 3rd November 2011, 20:12 Quote
I had to move home to get Virgin a few years ago. they had been telling me for 5 years that they have no plans to ever put cables there, despite being in a suburban area (a few miles from a small town, 10 miles from Nottingham). I told them in 2008 that I wanted their fastest available broadband, and I only realised a few weeks ago that there are 2 available services faster than mine - I'm on 10Mb and could be on 50Mb! It turns out that 10Mb is fast enough for most of what I do, in fact quite a lot of technical sites can't keep up with me :)

Mind you, I do wonder at times if the reason I have trouble connecting to some sites might be a problem with Virgin. They servers regularly break in the early hours, when it can take hours to fix them. At least, I assume they are breaking as I never get warned in advance that they will be down for servicing! A stable 24/7 connection is more important to me than fast speeds, so I may stay at my current speds and just change providers, seeing as how so many phone/broadband packages now also contain some form of TV service and I don't need all the film/sport channels :)
Meaty Pete 3rd November 2011, 20:31 Quote
They aren't really rolling out any more cable except on new builds to be honest so give up on any hope and move house.

Every ISP has speed issues and dropouts. Only reason u would get a significantly slower service would be either a fault or oversubscription. virgin has the fastest average speeds. Even their 10mb is faster than EVERY other providers 20mb service. And that's Ofcoms findings

The 'super'hub is cack and is the problem 9 times out of 10 so switch it to modem only mode and daisy chain another router to it

We seem to live in a world where we pay someone for Internet and just have to hope we aren't one of the minority that gets **** on. I don't agree with it and believe it should be better regulated
samkiller42 3rd November 2011, 20:33 Quote
Think i will stick with Bethere, Can't really fault them, When i first signed up, estimated 18mb, and actually had 13mb, Moved and was estimated at 5mb, and actually get 4mb. I don't think that's too bad for a 100 year old copper cable.

Sam
ffjason 3rd November 2011, 20:37 Quote
if only they fixed their current service before trying to improve it :(
ccxo 4th November 2011, 00:35 Quote
Only a fraction of their customer base will upgrade up to 100Mb, their 50Mb package is more then enough for the average user.
If Virgin actually went and filled in area's that they have missed it would be a better investment of their funds.

Only a few more years and BT will have expanded their Fibre network further then Virgins coverage, at least it works and has a choice of providers to avoid bad traffic management.
cool_dude 4th November 2011, 00:39 Quote
Perhaps it might be a good idea for them to reduce their prices also :D
CashMoney 4th November 2011, 00:43 Quote
I don't like Virgin's restrictions to P2P on principal alone, and from experience I know it affects other services (or did) and not just NNTP and Torrents. That said, I'm on 50Mbit and have been for 2 + years. I do the majority of my downloading after midnight, and in that 2 years, despite being very vocal in the beginning when they applied the new throttling, I've only been affected by it 3-4 times ever that I recall.
Other than that, I do around 250GB a month, have had no complaints from Virgin about excessive usage, always get between 47-49Mb anytime of the day regardless of the type of downloading I do, and have always had a quick response from them to any problems I've had with the service. They are open to negotiation on the price of the service they offer as well. Whilst I don't want to take away anything from folks who genuinely do have problems with the Virgin service, I do read in a lot of tech/broadband forums more than a few folks defending Virgin compared with other ISP's; that's got to count for something. Statistics do show that Virgin's average "up to" speeds are much closer to the headline speeds than others.

When the new throttling was introduced, I was only 3 months in to a new contract, and it was my intention to finish the contract and to save some money by dropping down to 30Mb because of it, despite how pumped I was for 100Mb. But my experience so far, I'm considering reconsidering ...

It's a shame only a 3rd of the UK can get access to Virgin cable services, and a shame that not everyone gets an experience like I've had ... usually that's me, so I've probably jinxed the whole thing now!
rogerrabbits 4th November 2011, 02:20 Quote
It's hard to get too excited about Virgin's services when they have such a harsh fair usage policy. I also find that it's got harsh caps on youtube content too.
metarinka 4th November 2011, 04:57 Quote
To all you brits what's the cost of 50 and 100mb service. I can't fiber optic here in pittsburgh pennsylvania, comcast will give cable (which problems means fiber optic backbone)

anyways I'm paying $69 a month for comcast blast which is 30 mbp/s with a 250gb limit I occasionally hit.
they offer a 105 Mb/s connection for the great price of only $200/month ... I'm not making that up.

While the internet itself has been fast, stable and uptime great. The cost isn't desirable. I don't have a tv so this is my only bill, but it's still kinda ridiculous. cost 70-100/month when you start adding in internet. and recently I've been going over the 250gb a month limit as my gf streams a lot of tv during the day.
sp4nky 4th November 2011, 08:42 Quote
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Originally Posted by metarinka
To all you brits what's the cost of 50 and 100mb service.
50MB is £25 per month after the initial 3 month discout; 100MB is £35 per month.

I used to pay £25 per month for a 10MB service. I'm currently on the 30MB service, which costs £18.50 per month.
rogerrabbits 4th November 2011, 08:57 Quote
I pay a fortune but it's my own fault really because it's the same deal I got almost 2 years ago, and I just need to call them to re-arrange a better deal. I live with my parents so we split the bill 50/50. Our monthly bill is about £110 a month which I'm guessing is similar to that $200.

But for that we get 20mbit cable (2mbit upload), a phone line with free national calls any time, cable tv including sports (only lacks movie channels), and two V+ boxes (like a tivo basically) so we can watch different channels at the same time. We quite like what we have but it's just too much. Times are tough so we want to cut it down a bit.
damien c 4th November 2011, 10:03 Quote
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Originally Posted by ccxo
Only a fraction of their customer base will upgrade up to 100Mb, their 50Mb package is more then enough for the average user.
If Virgin actually went and filled in area's that they have missed it would be a better investment of their funds.

Only a few more years and BT will have expanded their Fibre network further then Virgins coverage, at least it works and has a choice of providers to avoid bad traffic management.

LOL switch to BT and find out what there restrictions are especially there monthly limit, which I have been informed is 300gb per month, however that might be wrong but that is what I have heard.

The other thing with the likes of BT etc is that they have a switch that all there customer's connect to, and if I remember correctly they are only suppose to put about 800 people on them but they are putting anything up to 5000 on them, again just something I have been told and that is one of the reason's the speed's are so slow on BT and others as well as the distance.
damien c 4th November 2011, 10:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by rogerrabbits
It's hard to get too excited about Virgin's services when they have such a harsh fair usage policy. I also find that it's got harsh caps on youtube content too.

There is no policy what so ever regading Youtube.

The issues with Youtube are down to Youtube, simply because of the way they deal with video's and there servers.

If a video has a low amount of views it is put on there overloaded server's with lower bandwidth, if it has a large amount of views then it is put on there high capacity servers with higher amounts of bandwidth.

I can go to Youtube at any time of the day, and watch a 1080p instantly with no trouble and so can everyone I know on Virgin.

Granted there are areas that are over subscribed etc, but there is no policy within Virgin to limit the amount of bandwidth you can use on your connection for watching Youtube.

I wish people would actually do abit of research regarding what is actually in the Traffic Management stuff instead of just spouting rubbish that is 100% false.
damien c 4th November 2011, 10:10 Quote
Seriously though, look in to what the Traffic Management stuff is on other provider's and what there monthly usuage is.

Then when companies say "We don't slow your speed down" look at the speed you would get from them at your house, then compare it to what you would get from Virgin considering when they do slow it down it is down to 4.5mb, and that is about the average that other ISP's can provide or more.

Not only that but wait and see what happens soon.
scuppy 4th November 2011, 12:33 Quote
makes no difference to those of use stuck out in the sticks struggling on unstable 1Mb ADSL :(
Spreadie 4th November 2011, 13:04 Quote
I've never lived in a cabled area, but I wouldn't mind the option of Virgin's TV/Broadband package. Such a shame it's unlikely.

I'll just have to make do with my 20meg (12-14meg actual) line and Sky+. I don't like Sky too much, but I am considering their TV/Phone/Broadband deal, simply because the 80gig monthly cap I have at the moment is struggling to serve a family of four; and I'd be willing to accept some traffic shaping for the extra leeway of an unlimited account.
yakyb 4th November 2011, 16:04 Quote
i'll be honest im happy with 6 Down (although 20 would be nice)

im much more concerned with my low upload speed
mediapcAddict 4th November 2011, 21:27 Quote
two thoughts

1 - Which third?
my third or the first dozen on this list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_Kingdom_settlements_by_population

2 - to be honest if I got my 6mbs all the time I'd be happy.
trying to watch streaming movies during peak hours is pointless where I live. I always though we needed less congestion, more real bandwidth and not neccesarliy more speed. oh well.
rogerrabbits 5th November 2011, 02:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by damien c
There is no policy what so ever regading Youtube.

The issues with Youtube are down to Youtube, simply because of the way they deal with video's and there servers.

If a video has a low amount of views it is put on there overloaded server's with lower bandwidth, if it has a large amount of views then it is put on there high capacity servers with higher amounts of bandwidth.

I can go to Youtube at any time of the day, and watch a 1080p instantly with no trouble and so can everyone I know on Virgin.

Granted there are areas that are over subscribed etc, but there is no policy within Virgin to limit the amount of bandwidth you can use on your connection for watching Youtube.

I wish people would actually do abit of research regarding what is actually in the Traffic Management stuff instead of just spouting rubbish that is 100% false.

I never said that was traffic management. Notice the words "also" and "too". It's two separate issues which I made very clear, although you don't know the difference between their and there so it's no surprise. As for your rant, I don't believe you. I have read elsewhere that they DO have a policy towards youtube and I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUTUBE CONSTANTLY. So as far as I'm concerned, what YOU said is rubbish, and really, unless you actually work for them with some high up position, then you wouldn't even know what their policy is anyway.

p.s. Also that thing about popularity is a load of bolx. I am getting a constant loading circle at the moment, even on a video with over 6 million views.
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Originally Posted by damien c
Seriously though, look in to what the Traffic Management stuff is on other provider's and what there monthly usuage is.

Then when companies say "We don't slow your speed down" look at the speed you would get from them at your house, then compare it to what you would get from Virgin considering when they do slow it down it is down to 4.5mb, and that is about the average that other ISP's can provide or more.

Not only that but wait and see what happens soon.

Fanboi drivel. I'm not paying average prices so why should I be satisfied with an average speed? Besides, my neighbour is on a 24mbit package and he gets about 17 mbit all the time. So when my 20mbit gets gimped down to whatever punishment they deem fair, it's far from what I could be getting.

But yea you are right, their service twenty years from now is probably going to be very good, so I have no right to be unenthused about present day life.
Lenderz 6th November 2011, 02:36 Quote
On 50meg, get 50 meg at all times, and there's no limits on virgins 50 or 100 meg packages, love the service, I've been considering the 100meg package but really, when you can download any game in under a hour it doesn't seem like a big deal. I think 50 meg might be the sweet spot for most users.
leexgx 6th November 2011, 04:36 Quote
100mb not much use to me Due to traffic management my vpn is only affective up to 40mb at the 6pm to midnight, with out vpn my usenet is useless as I get less then 1-2mb (p2p or utorrent is not really affected due to encryption on the client)
mediapcAddict 6th November 2011, 14:05 Quote
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Originally Posted by rogerrabbits
I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOUTUBE CONSTANTLY.


I hear that. youtube is basically a waste of time past about 6pm on my 6mb/s
unless of course you like videos constantly interupted with buffering ( and thats ANY video currently popular of not).

now that flash/youtube/ie9/whomever doesn't buffer ALL the video when you pause it. You can't use the old let if buffer then watch it trick. Now I either use youtube downloader pro :D or just don't bother.

as for lovefilm forget about it at peak times. :(
John_T 6th November 2011, 19:43 Quote
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Originally Posted by r3loaded
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Originally Posted by runadumb
...I absolutely hammered my 50meg connection earlier this year... 500Gig hammered...
I did about 1.2TB back in September...

What on earth are you both doing? Backing up YouTube?
fdbh96 6th November 2011, 20:55 Quote
We have a standard asdl line with about 1mb dl, and we could get 30mb dl but my dad can't see the point :(
kopkin 6th November 2011, 21:17 Quote
i have bt infinity and am pretty happy with it (although it's expensive)
i personally wouldn't get much benefit by the virgin speeds although they look v. nice :)
leexgx 6th November 2011, 21:21 Quote
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Originally Posted by fdbh96
We have a standard asdl line with about 1mb dl, and we could get 30mb dl but my dad can't see the point :(

i hate to have an persion like that ADSLwhere i am is only 1mb maybe 2mb on my street (VM is 10-100mb and my Node is not overloaded {warrington} so i get ful speed apart from usenet that VPN 80% bypasses), who are you with if its just BT boardband its £20-22 for 10mb bb or 25-27 for 30mb (think its £2 more for phone) he can keep his number

youtube seems to just be youtube or ISP is thottering it (VPN to bypass it agane)

keyboard onthis netbook sucks (spacebar not working allways)
Slizza 6th November 2011, 22:55 Quote
Already available in my area. Though i'm happy with a meager 10mb line. i actually do get the 10mb speeds though. everybody around here with sky etc get "up to 20mb" but in reality get 4-5mb at a push.
The speed throttle is annoying though as i get hit by it sometimes. With the 100mb service there is no throttling, just 100mb service all day.
DarrenH 6th November 2011, 22:57 Quote
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Originally Posted by leexgx
100mb not much use to me Due to traffic management my vpn is only affective up to 40mb at the 6pm to midnight, with out vpn my usenet is useless as I get less then 1-2mb (p2p or utorrent is not really affected due to encryption on the client)

I have just upgraded to 100Mbps and it is awesome. It only cost me £5 a month more and I got a free installation to boot! Also got a Tivo box (500GB) with free installation and activation for only £3 a month extra!!

Virgin always rocks for me. I started using the internet when AOL ruled the roost down the phone lines (people still get internet that way?). Virgin cable internet is by far the best I have used. I have progressed from 1Mb-2Mb-4Mb-10Mb-20Mb-50Mb and now to 100Mbps and the service and speeds have been amazing.

Imagine how awful our connections would be with only BT or Sky. Competition is great and Virgin have done so much to get the UK up amongst the best internet speeds in the world. You can really tell the difference when you get 50Mb or 100Mb. Downloads are blindingly fast and you can tell the bad (or busy) servers from the decent ones. I can't wait for the 200Mbps sometime in 2013/2014.

WHY 100Mbps?
My power PC, 4 laptops, 2 Blackberries, 2 Iphones, 2 PS3s, 1 Xbox, 3 PSPs & 1 Printer- not all at the same time, but you never know!
r3loaded 6th November 2011, 23:10 Quote
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Originally Posted by John_T
What on earth are you both doing? Backing up YouTube?
Linux ISOs ;)

Seriously though, that was an incredibly exceptional month for me. Typical usage per month for me is in the 30-50GB region, and I'm quite firmly a power user. The point was to illustrate that someone downloading 4TB in a month on a residential line is frankly insane.
imersa 6th November 2011, 23:12 Quote
I was so stoked when I moved to finally go from 50 to 100. Turns out the road next to mine has it but for me no fibre. I choose to sell my sr2 build and move on to the real life.
It sucks. I can't cope with the 60kbps adsl offers me.
Please someone come and put some fibre in my road :)
runadumb 8th November 2011, 09:33 Quote
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Originally Posted by John_T


What on earth are you both doing? Backing up YouTube?

As I said, Hyperspin. Google it. That was an exceptional month for me though. I had a short window to get as much stuff as possible and used/abused it. Not that there was any point now harddisks have shot up in price. Was hoping to have everything on the software side setup by christmas :(
psychoti 9th November 2011, 06:16 Quote
i ll never ever go back to Virgin!
(unless they make an offer that i wont be able to refuse!)
Fizzban 9th November 2011, 20:48 Quote
A bold claim when they have trouble providing lesser speeds to customers. I personally have 50 meg with them and it is very good. But you only need to visit their forum to see how troublesome it can be in some areas.

It's a lottery, really. And that's the same for any provider. Talk Talk has to be the worst I have come across, but I have a friend who sings their praises because of good service. Essentially that is what it is. No provider is good, they all suck. It is a colossal job providing broadband fairly and evenly to the masses.

I do welcome the effort Virgin is making, however. They are really trying to get broadband out to people, while the government just sit on their asses and complain that they can't afford it.
Noob? 14th November 2011, 13:30 Quote
I guess I need to change supplier than LOL.
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