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Anonymous Facebook threat a bluff?

Anonymous Facebook threat a bluff?

Is the Facebook threat really from Anonymous, or is it a hoax?

Many sites are reporting that hacktivist group Anonymous has uploaded a recruitment video to YouTube calling for support to take down Facebook on 5 November this year. However, PC World (the US publication, not the high street shop) doubts the validity of the video.

It says ‘the threat has not been posted on Anonymous’ prolific Twitter feed or its blog.’ When it asked Trend Micro’s director of security research and communication, Rik Ferguson, PCW was told that the video ‘was posted almost a month ago and yet has not been widely publicised, or publicised at all, on the usual Anonymous channels; the Twitter profiles that appear to be associated are inactive.

Other sites are taking the claims of the video at face value, that it is from Anonymous and that the group does intend to ‘destroy’ Facebook. Given the anarchic, de-centralised nature of Anonymous it’s possible that the group both is and is not intending to attack Facebook.

Either way, the video is unequivocal: ‘If you are a willing activist, or a guy who just wants to protect the freedom of information, then join the cause and kill Facebook for the sake of your own privacy…

‘Facebook has been selling information to government agencies, giving clandestine access to information security firms, so that they can spy on people from all around the world. Some of these so-called white hat InfoSec agencies are working for authoritarian governments, such as those of Egypt and Syria.



Quite what will happen is anyone’s guess: the YouTube video could be prank, a splinter faction within Anonymous or it could be that the whole Anonymous group has changed tactics to flummox security experts such as Ferguson.

What do you think is most likely, and does Facebook deserve to be attacked in this way? Let us know your thoughts in the forums.

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MajorTom 10th August 2011, 17:06 Quote
I'd be impressed.
thehippoz 10th August 2011, 17:06 Quote
if there was an alternative that was good.. I'd give it a try

google + tried it.. it's very basic right now.. like facebook messenger is something I use too, get all your profile posts to your phone

know google will have the same features though.. just everyone is on fb.. long as you don't post up personal information
DriftCarl 10th August 2011, 17:21 Quote
I am sure google have no problems with this video being hosted on youtube :D
Tangster 10th August 2011, 17:31 Quote
I imagine if they try their normal dos attack, they'll fail miserably. I expect facebook has enough spare capacity to deal with that.
That said I'm more worried by the hackers who threatened RIM employees if they continued to help the Met with the riots.
Bauul 10th August 2011, 17:38 Quote
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Originally Posted by Tangster
I imagine if they try their normal dos attack, they'll fail miserably. I expect facebook has enough spare capacity to deal with that.
That said I'm more worried by the hackers who threatened RIM employees if they continued to help the Met with the riots.

Agree. Facebook has 500 million users who pummel the site with photos and videos all day long, I'm pretty sure they more than anyone could cope with a DDOS attack.

The RIM threat is more worrying, but again hopefully not credible. All the hackers did was access a Word Press site, a far cry from all the information they claim they have.

Plus, I'd be surprised if anyone would go and attack a RIM employee for this - the rioters looted for free stuff, not to make a point.
V3ctor 10th August 2011, 17:40 Quote
Honestly I won't mind if my account goes to hell... I'd love to get my account canceled, but *they* won't let me
jamesislush 10th August 2011, 18:08 Quote
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Honestly I won't mind if my account goes to hell... I'd love to get my account canceled, but *they* won't let me

I'm with you on that one. Kinda wish the whole thing would go down permanently.
xMathiasD 10th August 2011, 18:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by jamesislush
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Honestly I won't mind if my account goes to hell... I'd love to get my account canceled, but *they* won't let me

I'm with you on that one. Kinda wish the whole thing would go down permanently.

+1 for that..
maximus09 10th August 2011, 18:15 Quote
If the could actually bring down facebook that would be great, but what would be better would be to wipe everyones data and give a fresh clean slate to everyone! Or maybe Facebook would introduce a delete account feature once they realise that people want that!
Zinfandel 10th August 2011, 18:15 Quote
To be honest... I kind of want this to happen.
Toploaded 10th August 2011, 18:43 Quote
Yeah me too, the world was a better place before facebook.
Gigglebyte 10th August 2011, 18:47 Quote
If you cannot remove the person from the addiction, remove the addiction from the person :P
<A88> 10th August 2011, 18:52 Quote
You know, if I objected to Facebook's privacy policies and felt they were infringing on my rights in any way, I'd close my account myself; I don't need a bunch of egotistical losers to do it for me.
supermonkey 10th August 2011, 18:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by V3ctor
Honestly I won't mind if my account goes to hell... I'd love to get my account canceled, but *they* won't let me
Personally, I choose not to be on Facebook due to some of the same privacy concerns echoed elsewhere. Plus, I just think it's mostly a colossal waste of time. This is, however, only my opinion and I accept that other people enjoy the whole experience.

Nevertheless, if you really wanted to get away from it all, it is entirely possible to permanently delete your account.
Kovoet 10th August 2011, 18:55 Quote
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Originally Posted by xMathiasD
+1 for that..

please delete my account please pretty please
Kasius 10th August 2011, 18:56 Quote
Facebook sucks, that is all.
DXR_13KE 10th August 2011, 19:15 Quote
"Remember, remember, the Fifth of November: the gunpowder treason and plot. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot"
Sloth 10th August 2011, 19:23 Quote
Yay, Anonymous protecting freedom of information. That is, their freedom to access your information and leak it on torrent sites.

I'd rather do my dealings with big bad corporations and the conspiracy theories against them than with the group that have shown time and time again that the only ones who suffer from their attacks are the innocent bystanders with their usernames, passwords, personal information and credit card numbers given out.
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Originally Posted by supermonkey
Nevertheless, if you really wanted to get away from it all, it is entirely possible to permanently delete your account.
As always, supermonkey please stop posting before you go and shatter someone's preconcieved notions about Facebook and the world in general. :p
mulberrycrush 10th August 2011, 19:47 Quote
wtf? this is just as bad as a corupt government tell you not to listen to anyone else. idiots.
HourBeforeDawn 10th August 2011, 19:51 Quote
Im okay with this, my hope is that the game side is soooo screwed up that it will take facebook a long time to fix those annoying games.
Fizzban 10th August 2011, 22:50 Quote
They want to take down FB in November? And the point to this would be, what exactly? Just another load of bullshit excuses to cause trouble. When will these hacker groups just piss off and die..
scuppy 11th August 2011, 00:50 Quote
we need one of those partitions, but saying we want this to happen and if you could delete my account along the way please do so :D
mi1ez 11th August 2011, 01:20 Quote
I'd rather they go for Facebook than anything with my bank details! Break it, steal all my data, whatever, just keep away from my dwindling funds!
Canon 11th August 2011, 01:44 Quote
For the love of god, these juvenile morons just need to stop watching 'V for Vendetta' and thinking "I'm a revolutionist". No, you're a stupid **** kid that thinks he's a real badass. Just like when I let my nephew watch a kung fu movie, for the next week he is running around 'karate chopping' everything within reach.

So you can run a DDoS or get access to accounts and sites, because there aren't a million 12 year old American children offering 'tutorials' on this all over the web, namely youtube..
Fujukami 11th August 2011, 08:50 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sloth
Yay, Anonymous protecting freedom of information. That is, their freedom to access your information and leak it on torrent sites.

I'd rather do my dealings with big bad corporations and the conspiracy theories against them than with the group that have shown time and time again that the only ones who suffer from their attacks are the innocent bystanders with their usernames, passwords, personal information and credit card numbers given out.
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Originally Posted by supermonkey
Nevertheless, if you really wanted to get away from it all, it is entirely possible to permanently delete your account.
As always, supermonkey please stop posting before you go and shatter someone's preconcieved notions about Facebook and the world in general. :p

+1 there!
murraynt 11th August 2011, 09:37 Quote
I like my FB account :(
wuyanxu 11th August 2011, 10:11 Quote
so they plan to hack a database that users use to share data?

meh, hack away i say. that'll teach people who post every detail of their life on there.



(i don't use facebook like most other people, i only share links via twitter, which gets reposted on FB automatically. no personal stuff are posted on my FB)
modfx 11th August 2011, 13:39 Quote
This would be hilarious if they achieved it, fb culture has got out of hand. I have Facebook but only use it coordinate events with my friends. If I want to contact someone I have this little device called a mobile phone. It would be great not to have xxxxxxx just had a dump ( or something of that ilk) all over my news feed every 5 minutes :)
knarF 11th August 2011, 13:50 Quote
The problem is with Anonymous that absolutely anyone can do something like this and decide that they are part of it, this has been suggested on Anonymous forums before and always laughed at, this will backfire and make Anon look stupid for suggesting it.
x5pilot 11th August 2011, 15:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Zinfandel
To be honest... I kind of want this to happen.

+1
Denzin 11th August 2011, 16:09 Quote
I'm kinda amazed they got Hawking to front this.

Seriously, meh, who cares? If it's genuine, they'll take it down, the peeps who own FB will then probably say its gonna be off line for a short time whilst some extra security measures come in (if at all) and then it'll be back up.
jimchalmers 11th August 2011, 17:12 Quote
Sloth 11th August 2011, 18:26 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
so they plan to hack a database that users use to share data?

meh, hack away i say. that'll teach people who post every detail of their life on there.



(i don't use facebook like most other people, i only share links via twitter, which gets reposted on FB automatically. no personal stuff are posted on my FB)
Oh the wonderful "that'll teach 'em" logic.

And all the people who don't lock their doors should be robbed, and all of the people who don't check their smoke alarms monthly should have their house burned down, and all the people who eat fast food should get diabetes, so and so on because I don't like when people aren't like me and bad things should happen to them as a result of our differing behaviour.
wuyanxu 11th August 2011, 19:40 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sloth
Oh the wonderful "that'll teach 'em" logic.

And all the people who don't lock their doors should be robbed, and all of the people who don't check their smoke alarms monthly should have their house burned down, and all the people who eat fast food should get diabetes, so and so on because I don't like when people aren't like me and bad things should happen to them as a result of our differing behaviour.
the original logic behind my point (which wasn't written out correctly) was that those shared information are pretty much public anyway. there really isn't much difference between "extended network" and "public". hackers is only a very small group of people, much smaller than extended network in most people on facebook.

no harm done IMO. may be a few password been stolen, just change it.
Sloth 11th August 2011, 21:28 Quote
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Originally Posted by wuyanxu
the original logic behind my point (which wasn't written out correctly) was that those shared information are pretty much public anyway. there really isn't much difference between "extended network" and "public". hackers is only a very small group of people, much smaller than extended network in most people on facebook.

no harm done IMO. may be a few password been stolen, just change it.
There are actually plenty of ways for users to restrict access to what they post on Facebook, the fact that a large number of users are oblivious to them doesn't justify harming those who are careful about what they post.

Speaking from personal experience, the large majority of information I post on Facebook is restricted to actual friends, people I know in person and keep regular contact with. The various security settings in place do a fine job of making sure those on my friends list (and those that aren't!) who I don't know as well aren't privy to information I want to keep restricted. Short of people hacking through these settings my personal information is safe.

It's a similar sitaution to online purchases. You give out sensitive information under the presumption that it will be safe, even information given out of Facebook is given out on the conditions that only those allowed under the user's security settings will have access to it, most certainly not the public. The only real threats to that are a) the holder misusing the information or b) hackers accessing it. Surely you wouldn't think it would be fair for hackers to take addresses and credit card numbers from online stores simply because users were willing to part with their personal information and place trust in an outside party?

It should also be noted that these hackers are notorious for not simply taking the information for themselves, be disseminating on torrent sites. Again, far more public than even the largest Facebook friends list.
thehippoz 11th August 2011, 23:24 Quote
hacking is neutral if anything.. there's a legit use for the hacks that are found by regular folks

what's so cool about hacking is, if your passionate about it, you'll find tricks to optimize the hack.. or in some rare cases find a hack by yourself.. how you use it is another thing

now hacking a persons bank account or personal data- that's another deal imo your messing with his money and credit

people who put down all hacking is pretty harsh.. it's really interesting stuff.. like take for instance 2wire routers around here.. almost everybody and their grandma owns one

at&t sells them with their dsl service.. the problem is- default they come with a 10 character numeric password and in the gui setup- it defaults to use this password with a radio button

so most young guys and gals, they'll set wpa2 and think ahahha and run around with a wii remote in their hand after they dropped their iphone into the toilet and then used it (possibly rubbing it all over their face).. from what I've seen that is the basic setup in a lot households.. a wii or playstation 3, or both.. 2 phones- usually iphones and a couple of computers wit laptops that connect in and out of that network

the trouble with a 10 character all numeric password is.. to have a 100% chance to break that pass only takes 30 hours with a dedicated server running one 6970.. you can script it to resume or do it all at once.. all routers sold have a weakness such as this- just that one is pretty hard to forgive.. so instead of having around a 50/50 chance with a good dictionary, you have 100% chance to break into a guys lan

the techs at at&t setup all the routers wep to add insult to injury.. so it turns 30 hours into 2 minutes to get into a wireless network.. if everyone just sat back and said- oh were secure stfu! these big companies would never change the error of their ways..

in at&t case, I don't believe it's an error- I think they like leaving people's networks open on purpose.. I think guys like lolsec who do these things publicly are helping the general public out big time.. they are forcing these companies to fix gaping holes that otherwise some chinese guy is sitting there with your cc in his hands buying blow up dolls- get it from lack of women :D:D

ok bad joke.. but basically your mad at the wrong people

like there's a guy running around right now with your cc getting a mustache ride jumping out of an airplane.. and you wouldn't find out about it till you went to buy a house.. when this generation gets older, it will be mustache rides all over the place and I will hopefully have croaked
Aragon Speed 12th August 2011, 09:11 Quote
If it isn't a hoax, it may be the first time I cheer a hacking group...
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