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TalkTalk responds to Bono's "outrage"

TalkTalk responds to Bono's "outrage"

TalkTalk's Andrew Heaney is clear in his blog post that Bono's comparison of file sharing with child pornography is an "outrage."

U2 songsmith Bono made headlines recently with comments that accused ISPs of not doing enough to stop the sharing of copyright materials on their networks - something at least one ISP strongly denies.

As reported over on IT Pro, Bono's comments in a Wall Street Journal piece - supposedly about ten ideas the U2 frontman thought would be big in the next ten years - opined that claims from ISPs to be like "the post office" ferrying sealed "brown paper packages" were nonsense - citing "America's noble effort to stop child pornography, not to mention China's ignoble effort to suppress online dissent," as evidence that "it's perfectly possible to track content" and prevent the sharing of copyrighted music and video.

The comments have angered ISPs, with TalkTalk - an ISP already known for its opposition to the government's Digital Economy Bill, which looks to introduce data transfer limits and a 'three-strike' system to disconnect persistent file sharers - executive Andrew Heaney saying "the U2 frontman is seriously misguided" equating "the need to protect minors from the evils of child pornography with the need to protect copyright owners."

In a post to the official TalkTalk blog, Heaney stated that "to suggest that sharing a music file is every bit as evil as child abuse beggars belief," and accused Bono of not grasping the technicalities of the issue or "how simple it is to access copyright protected content without being detected."

While Heaney admitted that "P2P file-sharing can be spotted (albeit at great cost)" he also pointed to the "dozens of applications and tools out there which allow people to view content for free" with no hope for the ISP to ever detect the infringement.

Heaney has also launched a petition against the Digital Economy Bill - specifically its ability to summarily disconnect those accused of sharing copyrighted content without permission - which has gathered almost 31,000 signatures - an upwelling of support sadly lacking for Bono's comments.

Do you agree with Andrew Heaney that asking ISPs to police their users for copyright content with the same vigour they would child pornographers, or is Bono bang out of order with his inflammatory statements? Share your thoughts over in the forums.

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adam_bagpuss 7th January 2010, 10:52 Quote
only got one comment

"BONO STOP STICKING YOUR F*%^&ING NOSE IN STUFF"

you arent the voice of the people, jesus' second coming, or the savior of the world. your just a guy in a band who knows nothing.
!!AA 7th January 2010, 11:13 Quote
He really is a jerk
j_jay4 7th January 2010, 11:18 Quote
I'm pretty sure he does think protecting his cd sales is more important than the need to protect minors from the evils of child pornography
Bursar 7th January 2010, 11:18 Quote
Bono is the record (for you SouthPark fans)
Dreaming 7th January 2010, 11:27 Quote
We need to get Andrew Heaney to release a single so we can get that to beat whatever Bono is peddling these days.

*not actually a massive music lover, but sick to death of being patronised and vilified about stealing music*

Why is it that in most other markets they try to adapt to the new mediums whereas in the music market they just want to take people to court?
Sheiken 7th January 2010, 12:02 Quote
Lars Ulrich and Napster all over again, just another decade :P
bob 7th January 2010, 12:05 Quote
what a retarded thing to say Bono.

I reckon the hardcore pirates, who downloads tons and possibly sell it, would be using newsgroups + ssl, which would be pretty hard to crack.

Plus its not ISPs jobs to police the internet.
[ZiiP] NaloaC 7th January 2010, 12:07 Quote
Bono is a self-righteous twit. For someone who is dodging tax using the "artists concession" or whatever it's called here in Ireland and then complaining about rich vs poor and all that, it's just daft listening to anything he says these days. Add to the fact that they haven't made any decent music in about 15 years.

I will never forget the time I walked past him in Dublin when he was paying off a motorcyclist whom he had dinged with his mercedes :D
shanky887614 7th January 2010, 12:16 Quote
this dosnt bother me at all the thing i dont like about it they are bassically trying to give everybody i nthat company the right to everything we click on in the internet and this is abusing ower privacy
yakyb 7th January 2010, 12:20 Quote
**** off #2
Denis_iii 7th January 2010, 12:25 Quote
bono, your a twit.
shigllgetcha 7th January 2010, 12:27 Quote
"the difference between bono and jesus, jesus doesnt think hes bono"
Zurechial 7th January 2010, 12:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by bogie170
Removed.

Racist much? Cop on.


Bono is very much the typical rich pop star for whom enough is never enough. He needs to wise up and get lost on a lot of matters.
MacWalka 7th January 2010, 13:21 Quote
Bono does my tits in. He's just a self-righteous w***face of epic proportions.

I don't like piracy at all, I pay for music off the internet but its not the ISPs job to prevent piracy. The fact is that piracy of music doesn't hurt his pocket. Its the smaller up and coming bands that really get hit by it. Most musicians these days make their money from live gigs and concerts as a lot of the money from album/single sales goes to so many different people.

Bono talking about piracy just destroys the anti-piracy movement. I'm more likely to listen to guys like Sergeant, Temper Trap or other new bands about it as its those guys that get hurt as they can't sell albums, can't sell gigs at high prices so end up getting dropped from their label if everyone just pirates their material. The fact that bands like Radiohead, Coldplay etc release songs/albums for free shows they don't need the money from CDs, they just need to promote their songs so people go to their concerts.
Ape 7th January 2010, 14:49 Quote
Apparently ... (all this information is second hand from Mark Thomas on iTunes, podcast 'Interview with John Christensen, 02/02/09)

The tax exemption for the everyday man is roughly £3,500 (?).

Tax exemption for artists is £1,000,000 (?).

The tax rate in Ireland is 12.5% (?).

When the Irish government suggested reducing the tax exemption from £1million to £250,000 for artists, U2 moved their 'affairs' out of Ireland.

Bob Geldof is also a tax dodger (apparently).

And yet they all squeal so damn hard about pirates (which incidentally I object to for the right reasons and wasn't going to respond to this thread until I just heard John telling Mark Thomas all about U2's tax dodging). If U2 agreed to pay a proper tax rate, and pirates agreed not to pirate music/games, I still think U2 would end up more financially worse off!
PureSilver 7th January 2010, 15:00 Quote
I can't believe with the entirety of the internet laid out before them the best thing people can pirate is U2 albums. For God's sake!
i7lova 7th January 2010, 15:40 Quote
Who the F**K is U2 anyways??? Werent they around in the 80's??? YAWN.... He is seriously stupid if he thinks anyone is pirating the crap he calls "music".Tax dodging ******!
MacWalka 7th January 2010, 16:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by PureSilver
I can't believe with the entirety of the internet laid out before them the best thing people can pirate is U2 albums. For God's sake!

+1 rep for making me laugh in work

SteveU 7th January 2010, 16:51 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreaming
We need to get Andrew Heaney to release a single so we can get that to beat whatever Bono is peddling these days.

*not actually a massive music lover, but sick to death of being patronised and vilified about stealing music*

Why is it that in most other markets they try to adapt to the new mediums whereas in the music market they just want to take people to court?

I'd buy it!!

Andrew Heaney for number 1!!!!
eddtox 7th January 2010, 17:08 Quote
rant deleted by poster
El Rando 8th January 2010, 09:08 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bursar
Bono is the record (for you SouthPark fans)

lol
+respect
Unknownsock 8th January 2010, 09:09 Quote
Bono should be beat up on TV imo.
Imagine the views!
Hugo 14th January 2010, 13:51 Quote
We got Rage Against the Machine to number one; now I suggest we record a song called "Screw You Bono" and do the same.
slugbug 16th January 2010, 17:48 Quote
I used to like some of U2's older stuff but they haven't made anything good in years.
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