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Windows 7 unlikely to boost ailing PC market

Windows 7 unlikely to boost ailing PC market

Bill Veghte, Microsoft's top Windows business exec, has said that he doesn't expect Windows 7 to boost the PC market massively.

Bill Veghte, Microsoft's top Windows Business Exec, has said that he doesn't expect the Windows 7 release to significantly boost PC sales, despite all of the excitement surrounding Microsoft's next OS.

"History would tell us that generally as you ship a Windows release into the market... the bump is very modest," said Veghte. "You will see a little bit [of a bump], but it [will be] modest."

Microsoft announced last week that Windows 7 would ship on October 22nd and, according to a leaked Best Buy memo, the software giant will begin offering free or cheap Windows 7 upgrades to customers buying a new PC after 26th June via the Windows 7 Upgrade Program.

That doesn't quite line up with Apple's plans to offer a cheap upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard – if you've already got Leopard installed, it'll cost just $29 to upgrade to the new version of the OS, due out in September.

We're still hoping that Microsoft will see the light and offer a similar upgrade program for those who purchased Windows Vista, but we're yet to hear anything of any substance from the company. After all, when you've got big retailers such as Best Buy saying that Windows 7 is more than just "Vista that works", it's quite clear that Vista wasn't received well by more than just press and customers - Microsoft's partners didn't really like it either.

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pimlicosound 11th June 2009, 17:10 Quote
There might not be a big bump in sales, but I imagine that there'll be a considerable decline in the rate of returns. That's got to be good for business.
Nicb 11th June 2009, 17:45 Quote
Well,..... I'm sure they were a little embarrassed with Vista, and are just trying to gain confidence in the consumer market than make extra dough. I understand Vista is modestly stable now,...... but first impressions mean everything to the PC illiterate users. Nice to have Windows 7 work well straight off the CD unlike the beginnings of XP and Vista.
scrimple3D 11th June 2009, 19:03 Quote
Work straight off the CD? Er..... I reported this one yesterday..... if the start menu isn't working properly, one wonders what other, more complicated parts of the O.S. might be broken.....

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproinstall/thread/da879320-622f-42e0-8e24-50f994779d97
DarkLord7854 11th June 2009, 23:15 Quote
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Originally Posted by scrimple3D
Work straight off the CD? Er..... I reported this one yesterday..... if the start menu isn't working properly, one wonders what other, more complicated parts of the O.S. might be broken.....

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproinstall/thread/da879320-622f-42e0-8e24-50f994779d97

The keyword to look at in that thread is...
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Windows 7 Build 7100 64bit


I'm on7201 and it works fine, did the steps exactly as described, but let's all jump to conclusions due to a bug in a non-final version of software

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That doesn't quite line up with Apple's plans to offer a cheap upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard – if you've already got Leopard installed, it'll cost just $29 to upgrade to the new version of the OS, due out in September.

That's because Apple's revenue comes from the hardware, not the software.
Nicb 12th June 2009, 05:29 Quote
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Originally Posted by scrimple3D
Work straight off the CD? Er..... I reported this one yesterday..... if the start menu isn't working properly, one wonders what other, more complicated parts of the O.S. might be broken.....

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproinstall/thread/da879320-622f-42e0-8e24-50f994779d97

I have Build 7127 and have worked it extensively. I have found no problems and I have used it for things most users would never do. It's an excellent OS and this is coming from a guy that does not like Microsoft and prefers Linux/ freeware. I was hoping to find faults so I could rant about it. :)
logan'srun 12th June 2009, 09:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854

That's because Apple's revenue comes from the hardware, not the software.

Well given that I have Vista Ultimate 64bit and there are still issues with it (like certain soundcard issues or random crashes) I would hope that they offer an upgrade plan. But knowing MS , they won't.
DarkLord7854 12th June 2009, 10:41 Quote
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Originally Posted by logan'srun
Well given that I have Vista Ultimate 64bit and there are still issues with it (like certain soundcard issues or random crashes) I would hope that they offer an upgrade plan. But knowing MS , they won't.

Um.. they do.. it's called the Windows <version> Upgrade package, and costs less :)
tron 12th June 2009, 11:42 Quote
I think Microsoft's Bill Veghte is correct. Anyone would be quite naive to think there would be a anything like a huge jump in sales.

Look at Vista: if you stop the average person on the high street, they will not be able to explain the difference between xp and vista.

This is because most high street consumers do not really care.

If they need a computer at any point in time, then they will get one. They only hear about vista or the latest Windows 7 if a sales person sells the pros to them. But all the average consumer wants is something to surf the net and produce docs etc. If they are female, then they want to play sims.

At a previous work office where we had Vista and XP machines, most workers couldn't tell what operating system they were using unless you asked them and then they checked afterwards with a reply such as 'I think it's XP / Vista'. I found it incredible. All they knew is that it was a PC and they could check their emails and work on their documents etc.

Mac buyers are usually people who are attracted to the HARDWARE first. They couldn't really explain any software benefits of Mac software over Windows. The only people who understand software benefits are the relatively small community of enthusiasts, such as members of this forum.

Windows 7 will be the same as Vista, in terms of 'MOST' high street consumers not being aware of any selling points. If they decide to buy a new computer, they would have bought a new one regardless.
scrimple3D 12th June 2009, 12:51 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nicb
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Originally Posted by scrimple3D
Work straight off the CD? Er..... I reported this one yesterday..... if the start menu isn't working properly, one wonders what other, more complicated parts of the O.S. might be broken.....

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproinstall/thread/da879320-622f-42e0-8e24-50f994779d97

I have Build 7127 and have worked it extensively. I have found no problems and I have used it for things most users would never do. It's an excellent OS and this is coming from a guy that does not like Microsoft and prefers Linux/ freeware. I was hoping to find faults so I could rant about it. :)

By preferring Linux/freeware I take it you mean 'spends less time using'. Give it a rest.

And how foolish of me to have used Microsofts official Windows 7 RC download. If they've sorted the problem in a more recent build then I'm happy to hear it.
Blademrk 12th June 2009, 13:21 Quote
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IAt a previous work office where we had Vista and XP machines, most workers couldn't tell what operating system they were using

I can believe that, some people here think they're running Vista because they have the new ribbon bar in office.
DarkLord7854 12th June 2009, 13:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by Blademrk
I can believe that, some people here think they're running Vista because they have the new ribbon bar in office.

Really? LOL! That's awesome! :)
Aracos 12th June 2009, 19:29 Quote
Why would they even think it would effect it? That's foolish, who goes out and buys a new computer just for the operating system? Especially considering the amount of people who went and jumped on the Vista bandwagon on release, they'll already have decent hardware unless they absolutely cheaped out and got a 512mb vista machine (I feel for you guys). Most people I know that are interested in Windows 7 have good hardware and build their own computers and will just get a pirate copy of release day ^_^
DarkLord7854 12th June 2009, 19:47 Quote
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Originally Posted by storm20200
Most people I know that are interested in Windows 7 have good hardware and build their own computers and will just get a pirate copy of release day ^_^

I hope karma burns em :)
n3mo 12th June 2009, 19:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by Blademrk
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Originally Posted by tron
IAt a previous work office where we had Vista and XP machines, most workers couldn't tell what operating system they were using

I can believe that, some people here think they're running Vista because they have the new ribbon bar in office.

Well, I know people (lots of them) that don't know what Windows is, it's all just a "computer" for them. Most people just prefer to be ignorants and are too lazy to get interested in things they use every day. "-What car do you have? -Blue" is not just a joke :)
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