XP to remain on shelves until June 2008
Windows XP will be available from OEMs and retailers until June 2008.
Smaller computer sellers and Windows XP Starter Edition will also benefit from a later deadline too. The new deadlines are January 31, 2009 and June 30, 2010 respectively.
"There are some customers who need a little more time to make the switch to Windows Vista," said Mike Nash, head of Windows product management. "So we're responding to feedback we have gotten from our OEM partners that some customers will benefit by extending availability of Windows XP."
Typically, Microsoft stops selling its operating systems four years after release. The delay in getting Vista out the door, however, caused the company to rethink its selling strategies and extend deadlines for shipments.
"Although our research with customers before and since launch has reaffirmed our belief that the previous plan to offer Windows XP through Jan 2008 would address the needs of most customers, we did get clear feedback that there was a set of customers who needed a bit more time," said Nash. "Feedback from our OEM partners and from customers is that the June 30, 2008 date will address those needs. Of course, our plan was and continues to be that our system builder partners will be able to offer Windows XP until Jan. 30, 2009."
Support plans for all versions of Windows XP have remained unchanged. Microsoft will continue mainstream support until 2012 and extended support until 2017.
Are you happy that you'll be able to pick up a copy of Windows XP for another nine months from now? Would a lower price get you to switch over to Vista? Let us know over in the forums.
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Discuss in the forums ReplyThere will still be support for XP anyway.
These guys are porting dx10 to xp
XP is too old and need to die. I REALLY want change, I'm a type of person that LOVE change. If things don't change, it gets boring, tiering and makes my days more bland.
The second I switch to Vista Beta 2 with forced XP drivers for all my stuff (X-fi, Nforce 4, Geforce 6600), I simply hate XP.
I start to see ALL XP problems that I got used to. Liiiiike:
- Roll-over your mouse on your clock and wait for the tool-tip to appear and disappear. Congratulation!!! now a full Windows startup is needed to make the tool-tip on the clock work.
- Tool-tip appears behind start menu on task bar and quick-launch bar (this doesn't do it all the time)
- Networking issues on a simple network system with XP Pro SP2
- Start-menu "freezes" when you edit too much the Start menu on the start-menu (rename, delete items)
- Remote Desktop can change the classic start menu side XP label.
- If you open a folder with files and folder WITHOUT scroll bars and use the "selector" (you know, click on nothing and keep your mouse button pressed, and drag your mouse. The blue semi transparent selector), and move that selector to the bottom edge of your window, your content will jump up an down stupidly. If you open My computer then go to a folder, or use control Panel it will NOT work. Also items need to set as "tile" or "icons" (see attachment)
- SOMETIMES Windows appear above task bar of 1 px, even thus you set your task bar to not do that (only shows in Classic skin)
- Applications can easily steal focus from you.
- Taskbar flash blue items like if something changed or something to tell you to check it out, but nothing happened on it, same applies for windows.
- Internet Explorer is part of explorer.
- If you make appear the window "tip-of-the-day" [View>"Explorer Bar">"tip-of-the-day"] (yea it has that), and you click on "New tip" again and again and again (like 20-30 fast clicks), and you will see that the tip don't repeat, they will simply not show.
And I can go just on... the List is SOOOO VERY LONG.
I won't put Vista on older machines, though. Those will either get XP or Linux, depending on their job. I need XP (MCE) for my HTPC and Vista for my main (gaming) rig, but other machines can get Linux.
normal vista is a 32bit OS...meaning you can have your 2.5gb but until you go to 64bit, you're not getting your 4gb. why upgrade to vista when it's 1) a RAM hog 2)requires a minimum of 256mb vid card 3) is still 32bit?
I can use my fancy dancy XP 64bit and have a stable, tested OS that runs that much faster then vista.
press the start button. your tooltip is now back :D no need to restart.
in my limited experience using vista (installing it for a customer that demanded it) i hated it, it was complete rubbish
Networking in windows is still slow, buggy and generally doesn't really work
Vista is a waste of money, XP does what i want - it runs my software and its easy to get going, why do i care about an extra bell or whistle on vista, when you have to deal with all the driver issues, and all the rest
If i wanted to put up with that, i would start using ubuntu
in my personal opinion:
64 bit OS > 32 bit OS
64bit XP > 64bit vista*
*I have actually tried vista for 2 weeks, the overall impression i got was XP + prettyness + bloat + things moved and things dumbed-down for no apparent reason + incompatibilities**.
** have yet to get bioshock to work in vista, even with a clean install + brand new drivers + bioshock only
especially annoying is the fact that MS loosened the requirements for DX10 a while back, removing the last vista-only component dx10 needed... The only thing stopping DX10 on XP now is MS trying to force people to upgrade :(
Sorry, Vista Aero works well with my Evga Geforce FX 5900 128MB SE (NOTE: SE stands for Sucky Edition, and not Special Edition).
And that video card was an Nforce 2 with an AMD Athlon XP 2500+ with 768 GB of RAM. The OS not is running perfectly, put you'll get the same effect with XP with 448MB of RAM. And that was Vista Beta 2, I did not try RC1 or RC2 on it, and with WinXP Drivers for both video card and mobo, and my soundstorm sound card.
If you think Vista is XP with prettyness + bloat, that's because you didn't use enough.
As for incompatibilities, go the website of every software and make sure you download the latest software version or patch or Vista edition of the software, or contact the support forum.
Also, define "bloat", tell me what is "bloat" 'ed or, well, useless but that takes system resources like crazy. (and don't stupidly say "Vista" or "The hole OS", or something similar.) If you don't know what takes so much system ressources, tell us so we can clear up your misinformation.
All that's going to happen is from now on everything will be built with Vista in mind, I don't think it'll be that it gets much more stable as a platform itself, its just that developers will have to embrace its problems (like I'm guessing they did with every other new OS) until its the norm
Maybe I'm just to long in the tooth nowadays, or that I see XP as my 'game safe' dual boot to Fedora? Everyone seems to be arguing for and against the move, I think what willl happen is all those that swear by XP will only do so until something comes out just for it and they'll have to switch (as dx10 did with most). Sitting on the fence seems like the only option to me
In Word 2007 saving a document template will not automatically switch to the right directory; it dumps them in the Documents folder. Good luck with getting Word to notice them and putting them in the right location.
Every change takes some getting used to, but this is more than just a change of habits. There are still some UI issues to iron out.