iPhone will be AT&T exclusive

"My precccciooouuusss" - The iPhone will be an AT&T exclusive for five whole years.

So many people have been lusting over the iPhone that it's almost obscene. Thanks to the delays between the US and EU, I've already had people begging me to import them one, no matter what the price. Unfortunately, that may be harder than it sounds - the iPhone will be an AT&T exclusive for five years, at least here in the States.

This isn't so much a case of strong market prowess as it is being in the right place at the right time. AT&T is one of only two providers in the US that uses GSM technology. Both Verizon and Sprint (the two other big US Cellular providers) use the older CDMA, which does not have the same technological capabilities as GSM. Most of the rest of the world, including the EU, uses GSM.

Of course, AT&T is not letting an opportunity like this slip by - the network is making quite a few alterations to both itself and the iPhone in order to make the most of it. The company will use this opportunity to shed the Cingular moniker, bringing the AT&T name back to wireless for the first time in over a year (the company's previous spinoff, named AT&T Wireless, went bankrupt). AT&T is also committing to building several new towers to improve service in areas where it is not that strong, since it can't rely on Verizon or Sprint towers for a GSM-only phone.

On top of its own internal changes, the company is doing a dastardly US trick to the iPhone - locking it. iPhones purchased in the US will only work on the AT&T network, regardless of what SIM card is placed in them. This technique has been used commonly in the past to protect an "exclusive" phone, such as when the Motorola RAZR first hit. It will also prevent any exports of the phone to Europe, at least until someone goes firmware hacking. And at the expected $600 USD a pop with contract, that may be a while before someone is willing to risk turning it into a paperweight for the sake of science.

There is no word on whether European consumers will have to face similar struggles once the iPhone launches in the EU, but odds are doubtful. Problems like brand-locking are more of a US/Japan tactic, where cell-phone competition is limited due to the high costs of entry and the governments are unwilling to intervene.

Do you have a thought on the news? Are you annoyed that your friend in the US won't be able to send you one? Tell us about your gripes with all of this in our forums.
Quote bilbothebaggins 23rd May 2007, 16:38
5 Years?
Isn't the turnover for mobile-phones something like 1-year-to-next-model?
Quote identikit 23rd May 2007, 16:41
Hahahahahahahahaha. How much are they going to be worth on the black market?! I can imagine gangs of people stealing them then selling them on to importers in the EU, who in turn unlock them and sell them on for profit. You'll be able to pick one up in the UK for a few hundred quid soon enough.
Quote fev 23rd May 2007, 16:42
iphones of no interest to me, where's the 3g? or even HSDPA
Quote Ramble 23rd May 2007, 16:55
I'm pretty sure it's a legal obligation for a company to provide an unlock code or something that will let someone unlock the phone.
That said, GSM? As fev says above that's a waste of money, I'd expect at least 3g.
Quote airchie 23rd May 2007, 17:12
Surprise surprise.

I remember my first mobile phone, all it had was cellnet written on the screen when it had a signal.
And that's only cos I happened to have a cellnet SIM in it at the time.

I saw a friend's new phone recently and it had advertising for **** on the front screen llike a screensaver!

Sod that tbh!
Quote olly_lewis 23rd May 2007, 17:28
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Originally Posted by fev
iphones of no interest to me, where's the 3g? or even HSDPA

It'll probably be bumped from EDGE to 3G sooner or later and when it arrives in the UK it'll most likely have to be upgraded to 3G....

Either way, its gonna sell
Quote DXR_13KE 23rd May 2007, 17:54
here telephone companies normally lock the phones to their network and unlock them for a fee or after the date has expired on the contract, but you can buy unlocked phones in other shops but they cost a little more.
CDMA? GSM? why don't they use 3G in the US? it seams that the US are still in the stone age in terms of mobile communications. :p
Quote pendragon 23rd May 2007, 17:57
i really could care less about the Iphone ...now, if only Samsung would make Sprint a nice slider-phone like the LG Chocolate.. well.. then I'd really be interested :D
Quote Bauul 23rd May 2007, 18:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by pendragon
i really could care less about the Iphone ...

Don't you mean you really couldn't care less about the iphone? I see people say "I could care less" all the time, when technically they're stating they care a lot about a product, it's odd, I wonder where it came from.

On the subject of the iphone itself: meh. I want my phone to be sturdy, reliable, and, excluding writing time, send a text message in no more than 2 seconds. Funny thing is, the more modern phones get, more complex is seems to become to do the simplest things. Apparently with the new LG Prada phone, which operates much like an iPhone with a touchscreen, it requires clicking through three menus just to get the number pad up. :(
Quote Ramble 23rd May 2007, 19:51
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauul
it's odd, I wonder where it came from.

Probably from the fact that double nagatives can be confusing to understand sometimes.
Quote Nexxo 23rd May 2007, 20:02
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauul
On the subject of the iphone itself: meh. I want my phone to be sturdy, reliable, and, excluding writing time, send a text message in no more than 2 seconds. Funny thing is, the more modern phones get, more complex is seems to become to do the simplest things. Apparently with the new LG Prada phone, which operates much like an iPhone with a touchscreen, it requires clicking through three menus just to get the number pad up. :(
Not so. You get to the keypad either by tapping one icon on the main screen, or (during a call) by clicking a button on the side. That's it.
Quote completemadness 23rd May 2007, 20:08
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramble
Probably from the fact that double nagatives can be confusing to understand sometimes.
yeah it can take a minute to work out what someone was actually saying when they start using multiple negatives
Quote pendragon 23rd May 2007, 20:12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauul
Don't you mean you really couldn't care less about the iphone? I see people say "I could care less" all the time, when technically they're stating they care a lot about a product, it's odd, I wonder where it came from.

Correct. I'm tired and not feeling well, so I guess my grammar took a dive. :(
Quote cyrilthefish 23rd May 2007, 20:23
I still can't see whats special about the iPhone *at all*

It's essentially a standard PDA/Phone hybrid device (theres too many of these around to count) in a shiny casing and with a shiny GUI...

On the negative side, from what i've read it'll have a incredibly locked down OS, that will not run 3rd party apps unless they are signed by apple.

Microsoft did that on the first windows mobile phones and eventually had to relent and make the application signing voluntary rather than mandatory due to it being universally hated by the consumers.
(I remember the *fun* of having to manually hack my first windows phone by copying code to the phone while it was booting up, but before the security policy got applied, to break the code-signing :P )

In short, the application lockdown makes it worse than any other hybrid PDA/Phone out there.

related link: http://www.slipperybrick.com/2007/01/jobs-says-apple-iphone-os-x-not-open-like-mac/
Quote DreamTheEndless 23rd May 2007, 21:10
Meh - I'll have one on day of release -

I'll let you guys know how good/bad it is.....
Quote Aankhen 24th May 2007, 00:27
Heh. The whole mobile phone industry in North America is so completely anti-consumer, one wonders why they even bother pretending to be otherwise.
Quote <A88> 24th May 2007, 02:18
Meh, my phone has a touchscreen, WiFi, GPS, plays videos and music with album art whilst updating the music everytime I connect it to my PC, MSN messenger, Live Local, hotmail, syncs all my contacts, emails and calendar entries to Outlook, syncs all my notes to OneNote, has Word, Excel and Powerpoint, a decent 2mp camera, FM radio, expandable memory, changable battery and endless 3rd party apps. Anyone would think the iPhone would be a downgraded product with a highly upgraded price ;)

<A88>
Quote fev 24th May 2007, 02:37
*hugs vast phone collection*

still a fan of my p990, but then the n95 camera is better and more multimedia focused but then the spv m700 does both but with a worse camera.

Gah it's too much
Quote Krikkit 24th May 2007, 02:50
To be honest I can see the iPhone hitting the spot just right.

Personally, I haven't got a use for fancy features like WiFi, GPS, and video playback, 3G and e-mail access and endless 3rd party apps.

The iPhone hits the spot I'd most want if I didn't have a massive music collection - it's a functional, sleek, stylish phone (with all the usual gubbins), combined with an MP3 player, all in one device. I think it's what a lot of people will want, but the downside is the price. Ain't it always the truth.

fev - you have far too many phones. :p
Quote leonardob80 24th May 2007, 02:53
i had the presentation video for the iphone in san francisco... isn't steve said that is was a combinated work with congullar for certain phone services.
Quote Javerh 24th May 2007, 05:09
For anything Microsoft, it's a bug or a negative aspect. For Apple, its a feature that people are willing to pay for. Marketing anyone?
Quote Blake 24th May 2007, 08:47
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krikkit
To be honest I can see the iPhone hitting the spot just right.

Personally, I haven't got a use for fancy features like WiFi, GPS, and video playback, 3G and e-mail access and endless 3rd party apps.

The iPhone hits the spot I'd most want if I didn't have a massive music collection - it's a functional, sleek, stylish phone (with all the usual gubbins), combined with an MP3 player, all in one device. I think it's what a lot of people will want, but the downside is the price. Ain't it always the truth.

fev - you have far too many phones. :p

The iPhone looks fantastic on the surface but it really apple is really nerfing the hell out of it.

To begin with no 3g network, for something with such a fantastic built in browser this is silly.

The hard-drive is still too small to replace a decent sized music collection - this doesn't even cover videos, it needs to be at least 20 gigs.

Someone mentioned that Apple wont let you use your own programs on it. As soon as I heard wifi I wanted to stick Skype on it but to no avail for me.

This is more of a problem with all PDA's but I wont be able to survive on it's lack of battery life.

The camera (from memory this one) is really average and I don't think it has a flash. If it's a convergence device it should do these things well.

I think it's a decent piece of kit, but it just could of been so much more.
Quote Xir 24th May 2007, 13:51
"Problems like brand-locking are more of a US/Japan tactic"

Well no. Phones usuelly show the band of the (first) provider in the display, even when the SIM-card is changed.
Ther usually is no option of removing this (except with non providor or non manufacturer software...so not without busting warranty)

Locking is usual...though not for contracts that go over a year (two year contracts are the norm).
Locking is used widely in prepaid-phones e.g. in phones that do not come with a contract.

Cheers,

Xir
Quote Krikkit 24th May 2007, 13:57
That doesn't apply over here Xir, the operator logo isn't generally stored on the phone. :)
Quote DougEdey 24th May 2007, 14:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krikkit
That doesn't apply over here Xir, the operator logo isn't generally stored on the phone. :)

Yeah it is, only on some first generation products it isn't.

My new U600 has O2 as a start up logo, my old W810i had it aswell
Quote woof82 25th May 2007, 14:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrilthefish
It's essentially a standard PDA/Phone hybrid device (theres too many of these around to count) in a shiny casing and with a shiny GUI...
Quote:
Originally Posted by <A88>
Meh, my phone has a touchscreen, WiFi, GPS, plays videos and music with album art whilst updating the music everytime I connect it to my PC, MSN messenger, Live Local, hotmail, syncs all my contacts, emails and calendar entries to Outlook, syncs all my notes to OneNote, has Word, Excel and Powerpoint, a decent 2mp camera, FM radio, expandable memory, changable battery and endless 3rd party apps. Anyone would think the iPhone would be a downgraded product with a highly upgraded price

Exactly, how is it that people (just like what happened with the iPod mind) are too stupid to realise that THERE ARE OTHER PRODUCTS AVAILABLE ON THE MARKET WHICH ARE CHEAPER AND BETTER. Dammit I just want to shout that from the top of a mountain.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Krikkit
The iPhone hits the spot I'd most want if I didn't have a massive music collection - it's a functional, sleek, stylish phone (with all the usual gubbins), combined with an MP3 player, all in one device.
Umm... my phone does that and it's so old that the front Fascia has received a large amount of wear to the point at which most of the paint on the logo has come off.



I don't think that unlocking will be much of a problem, I got my last phone unlocked for a tenner.


At the end of the day, if anyone is willing to spend $600 WITH A CONTRACT on that piece of junk they really need a slap.
Quote DreamTheEndless 5th August 2007, 00:09
Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamTheEndless
Meh - I'll have one on day of release -

I'll let you guys know how good/bad it is.....

So, it took me a month to get one, but it was worth the wait. Everything is great about it. The iPhone really will change the industry.

(Posted from my iPhone.)
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