PSP to be used in schools

The PSP - soon to be boring students nationwide?

The Daily Mail let loose today that a pilot program is underway to introduce the Sony PSP into classrooms across the country as a teaching aid.

Intended to help students learn French, history and geography, the scheme is being tested out at Holyhead Secondary School, Birmingham. Staff and faculty members there have recently returned from a two week training course on the PSP where they have learnt to harness the multimedia capabilities of the gaming platform, which cost £150 each.

Staff members at the school have embraced the idea with one teacher going on to say that "The console is just like a minicomputer but fast and you can use it to tailor-make lessons for pupils who need support or stretching.

"Some people think it is an exclusively a gaming machine and don't realise all the things it can do. It can access the Internet and process information.


The school has recently applied for government funding in order to raise the £4,500 needed to purchase 30 units for the classroom.

We have to admit that the PSP seems like an odd choice to us. After all, a Pocket PC would provide the same interaction with better support and a Nintendo DS would give students a more involving experience via the microphone and touch-screen interface as well as clocking up at £1,500 cheaper on bulk.

Don't want your kids using the PSP in the classroom? Think the money could be better spent elsewhere? Have any opinion at all?Drop by the forum and let us know
Quote whisperwolf 3rd April 2007, 11:50
ohhh looky a new staff member,

PSP does seems an odd choice but I suppose it does have a nice screen. surely the touch screen input method on the DS might have been more useful?
Quote BioSniper 3rd April 2007, 11:59
I agree, I personally think that the DS would have been a far better choice, or a pocket PC, or a laptop, or a PC.
I wonder if that school is funded by Sony? :p
Quote TheoGeo 3rd April 2007, 12:01
I agree, touch screen would be better, but then again i'm also sure that they didn't consult anyone who actually knows anything about technology when making the decision.

btw the "drop by the forum and let us know" link goes to the main forum page and not this thread
Quote Jamie 3rd April 2007, 12:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheoGeo
btw the "drop by the forum and let us know" link goes to the main forum page and not this thread
Well spotted, I've updated the link.

I can see all the kids sat at the back of the class room bringing in their games from home and having a bit of a multiplayer session while the teacher isn't looking.
Quote Tim S 3rd April 2007, 12:38
brings back memories of me and my friends getting Civilization II installed on the school network so we could play during lunch times. :D
Quote L2wis 3rd April 2007, 12:58
we had hl dm on our college network :D hehe, anyways re: psp's in school it sounds like not much thought has gone into this at all.
Quote David_Fitzy 3rd April 2007, 13:08
Games consoles do seem a very stupid choice, they're more desirable to steal, small enough to be easily stolen, they're a lot harder to lock down to specific (school) tasks, a lot harder to monitor activities and despite the largness of the PSP screen it's still squintsville compared to a textbook or sheet of paper.

A tablet PC would be so much more practical. Central management is easy, locked down interfaces are simple, their largeness creates a better digital workspace and makes them harder to steal and being PCs they have a massive software base.
Quote r4tch3t 3rd April 2007, 13:08
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Originally Posted by Tim S
brings back memories of me and my friends getting Civilization II installed on the school network so we could play during lunch times. :D
Our school network and computers blocked practically everything. We played paint.exe, oh the FPS fun we had. (DOOM renamed as paint so we could run it. Only certain .exe's were allowed to run)
As for PSPs for the classroom?
I can see were they are coming from, it is more powerful AFAIK than Palms or D the DS, but is that extra power actually going to be used?
Quote David_Fitzy 3rd April 2007, 13:10
I had an administrator password at school :p
Quote Nature 3rd April 2007, 13:32
My students would hack games on them:D
Quote CardJoe 3rd April 2007, 13:36
Me and a friend organised a Quake 3 LAN event for charity and just 'forgot' to uninstall it afterwards. It made ICT A-Level a lot more interesting from that point on.

On topic: I agree that they'd be easy to steal from the school, though the thing that amazes me most about all this is that it took the staff two weeks to learn to use a PSP. I'd take that as a great reason not to use them in school - if you're going to take that amount of time to learn a system then why not learn to use something open source so you can do more with it? Eh?

Like this.

Ps: w00t! Second post! And thank you to those who've been saying hello.
Quote Ramble 3rd April 2007, 13:37
Stupid idea.
A tablet or pocketpc would be so much better.
Or, maybe a good teacher? Electronic solutions to teaching are shite; they always have been and they probably will be for a long time.
Quote DXR_13KE 3rd April 2007, 13:45
hello to the new slav..... staff member :D
A pocket pc, DS, tablet pc, normal pc with linux...... etc.... would be a lot better.
Quote Edenalig 3rd April 2007, 13:46
I went to a conference about this, its being pushed by the likes of BECTA and the Pathway Trust.

I think its another misguided attempt to use the in technology to aid learning.
Quote Djpuk 3rd April 2007, 15:51
Given how we are told that exams are so easy now I guess that they have to give the kids some way of filling their time in lessons when the five minutes of learning are over?
Or maybe the teachers can attach cameras and record the physical and verbal abuse they now suffer.
Is getting PSP's in to schools really where the effort should be focussed? It is not as if the user interface is widely used in industry is it?
Are there not more fundamental problems in education to be solved that Sony's little brick are hardly likely to address and IT money could be far better spent giving the kids something that prepares them for a life outside of school?
Quote Jipa 3rd April 2007, 16:34
Well I'm glad it's not happening on our tax-moneys ;) I have no idea why they chose PSP, first thing to pop into my mind is that some of the teachers or who ever that decided about this had recently purchased one to her/his own kid.

Why the heck do they need consoles/PDAs anyway?
Quote Firehed 3rd April 2007, 16:59
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim S
brings back memories of me and my friends getting Civilization II installed on the school network so we could play during lunch times. :D
What a game :)

But this idea is just a stupid waste of money, and I'm sure there's some idiot at Sony behind it. FFS, let's just fire all the teachers and use the savings and buy more PSPs with them...
Quote crayfish 3rd April 2007, 17:53
Pah! In my day we had one BBC Micro for the whole class!
Quote Veles 3rd April 2007, 18:20
Quote:
Originally Posted by crayfish
Pah! In my day we had one BBC Micro for the whole class!

Ahh I remember them, spelling words incorrectly so the tomato man would explode, those were the days.

EDIT: Is there a competition going on or something on who can waste the most tax payer money?
Quote ajiKaBooM! 3rd April 2007, 19:44
Its flippin ridiculous kids nowadays in schools are spoilt with so many forms of technology and resources yet its not pushing up the standards of grades..yet this gov't seems to believe splashing out on more will help better the situation. I believe money should be spent and focused upon one main thing: TEACHING. F' sake!

EDIT: its not a late April fool's day joke is it?
Quote Samurai75007 3rd April 2007, 20:33
Everyone in my high school had laptops. however most of the time kids were IMing and playing games rather then learning.
Quote Cptn-Inafinus 3rd April 2007, 20:43
Bah! Im in a high school and i know this WILL NOT work at all.

Considering in my computing class when we have to do theory people just play with their pc's i cant imagine what they will do with a psp. Thats why they have moved all the pc's to the side of the classroom. Ridicule!
Quote pendragon 3rd April 2007, 21:26
i agree.. it does sound like a very odd choice.. i'm sure they'll find out how ineffective it is soon enough... (welcome to bit-tech CardJoe! :) )
Quote DXR_13KE 3rd April 2007, 21:32
this is going to backfire.
Quote Neji 4th April 2007, 03:35
But guys guys, didn't you realise? It can access the internet! And it can even process information!!!!1111one!
Quote Darkedge 4th April 2007, 10:34
PSP for teaching? yeah use a propriety format, limited capability expensive device.
Dumb - DS would be better by miles, pocketpc/tablet/etc is more expensive but more suited easily.

Not a shock that the dumbarse mail is getting involved since they tend to be the most clueless (and bigoted, stupid, reactionary, etc) newspaper around.
Quote HandMadeAndroid 4th April 2007, 15:09
Cool, get Macdonald's to serve school dinners lol
Quote nry 4th April 2007, 15:23
Silly idea, money could be spent on much more useful things, even a projector for the class room
Quote casey_cole 4th April 2007, 17:10
Rubbish.

Put a working smart board and projector in each class room and give the teachers a working laptop each.

Letting kids run wild on portable (can be turned away from the teacher so they can't see the screen, easily stolen, easily hidden), small screened, slow, non specialised computers is completely useless.

CC
Quote Cptn-Inafinus 8th April 2007, 11:00
Nope smart boards are just as useless. Sorry for for the bump but its true. My school bought around 30 smart boards last year at £10 000 each. Only 12 class rooms have them fitted now. All the rest are sitting at the bottom of the stair wells...

And considering 8 years ago when i moved to this area the new high school was supposed to be built and it still isnt. There just wasting money plain and simple.

Unless a pupil has taken tech Studies, computing or some other subject that DIRECTLY involves technology it shouldnt be in the classroom. Yes its fine for writing essays and what not but not for "improving" learning. For god sakes people complain in my history class if they have to write a note a paragraph long! In 5 years they will just stop teaching kids to write...
Quote DougEdey 8th April 2007, 11:04
I personally think it's down to the teacher, my mum doesn't like Smart boards, they lag and aren't very accurate. She uses a Mimio, you write on the board like normal, your pen works like normal but the computer records everything you do and you can mix in a projector to display items.

She uses it one hell of a lot as she's a more techie teacher, gets the kids playing games on the whiteboard to learn and so on.
Quote Cptn-Inafinus 8th April 2007, 12:48
Yeah we play games but the chavs/neds/scum just use it as an excuse to skive and then at the start of ever lesson they ask:

"Sir/Miss Can we play a game!"

The answer is always

"Only if you behave!"

And then usually it wil follow with

"Yer well gay!"

Oh joy.
Quote mrplow 8th April 2007, 13:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by crayfish
Pah! In my day we had one BBC Micro for the whole class!

We had TWO!!!!!


..for the whole school.
Quote Ramble 8th April 2007, 15:14
Smartboards don't work either. In all my time in the glorious education system *sic* I've only seen one teacher use it (and she could've done it on a whiteboard). No, what schools need are better teachers and better/more basic equipment (things like pens, paper, scissors and lab equipment (for the love of God please more lab equipment).
Quote Cptn-Inafinus 8th April 2007, 17:26
Well i must say my school is pretty good when it comes to equipment in science its just where you put it all is the problem. My schools storage space was given a "Extremly Unsatisfactory" by the last HM Inspection.

Also i think that schools should move from using bloody dells. There horrible!
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