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Connecticut proposes MySpace ID Bill

Connecticut proposes MySpace ID Bill

Atty General Blumenthal has proposed a new law to try and protect minors using social networking sites like MySpace.

If you can't trust your kids to parent themselves, the government will have to force parents to do it for them. That's the lesson learned thanks to one government official in the state of Connecticut today, anyway. The state's Attorney General (the lead legal officer of the state) has proposed a new law requiring social networking sites like MySpace to require age verification and parental consent.

Despite the rather alarming "nanny state" suggestion, Richard Blumenthal may not be all wet and is actually helping web community. His main goal is simply to require that new members to a site verify their age as one of majority, and that minors would be required to have parental consent. The proposition comes shortly after the conviction of a 23-year-old man who used MySpace to solicit an 11-year-old girl from Connecticut.

Rather than pushing the bill through legal channels, Mr. Blumenthal is leading a group of 44 states in politely requesting that News Corp (the owner of MySpace) and other controllers of social networking sites voluntarily help first. And there is incentive for that help - by requiring that a person be of legal age or check the box for parental consent, the site can indemnify itself of any wrongdoing.

According to Blumenthal's reasoning, the change would cost companies like MySpace very little. However, the impact of a decent age-verification could have profound benefits for both the kids and the site. Basically, if 11-year-old Susan is on the site and 23-year-old Johnny finds her, her parents should have seen Johnny on her friends list. After all, their credit card (or other ID) would have been required to let Susan register to begin with. If Johnny ends up being a child molester, then it wasn't MySpace who put them together - it was the parents who validated the service and then never checked up on Susan's friends again.

News Corp and friends may not see this suggestion as a total win/win, though. The additional hoop of an age-verification would decrease the number of users on the site considerably - some by a matter of necessity (by parents not consenting, etc), others by a matter of inconvenience or privacy. Less traffic means less advertising revenue, which means a very real cost to the parent company. Though it may take a couple code gurus ten minutes to set up, it could potentially damage the amount of traffic by large amounts.

Whether Atty. General Blumenthal gets his particular way or not, social networking may be in for a change. The proposal is a "quit or be fired" offering - if the sites don't come quietly, the next call might be to the Senate floor, where it can be sold as "pro-family" and spun into an epidemic problem to which this is the only cure (much like the outright ban of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas). Even worse, it could end up legislated state by state, which can be a costly beurocratic nightmare. And none of this even touches upon the overseas angle, as European law could then add an entire additional layer of headaches.

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airchie 9th March 2007, 09:52 Quote
I kinda like the idea tbh.

Giving parents some sort of access to what their kids are doing online is always good but how many parents just don't care?
DougEdey 9th March 2007, 10:23 Quote
I thought myspace had a tickbox which said you had to be a certain age and have parental permission?
mmorgue 9th March 2007, 10:40 Quote
Its a step but then, as airchie pointed out, how many parents actually care? Or simply just gloss over the 'If you are over 13 click here...' verification screens?

It's all fine and good to say more needs to be done, but you simply can't enforce it on those unwilling to enforce. <shrug>

It's not so much that new laws or regulations need to be created. Parents need a wake up call to the actual things their kids can get up to on the net. Most simply have no idea just what content is out there.

Well, not unless some nice new-fangled brainwave/dna/rectal scanner security system comes out to 100% guarantee you are who you say you are..

Did I say rectal.. i meant.. retinal...
yodasarmpit 9th March 2007, 10:45 Quote
ID verivication to join a social networking site, now with the likes of Myspace that may be OK as they can be trusted to hold that personal information.
Now obviously Myspace is not the only social networking site out there, in fact every forum could fall into this catagory, and how many would be willing to share their personal information with just any site.
This simply cannot work as there are too many forums and social networking sites to safely monitor, and who would you trust to retain your credit card details.
f00dl3 9th March 2007, 11:28 Quote
It's a great idea, with the exception of the Credit Card deal. After all, I am 21 and use Facebook/Myspace to chat with my cousins as well as coworkers when not at work. I would rather give out my drivers license number than the credit card if that would be possible. For some reason, I don't see any reason to give a "free" website my credit card number or any information that would allow ID theft.

Especially given the virus and account stealing vault that MySpace has become lately.
Gman22 9th March 2007, 12:48 Quote
Connecticut is spelled wrong in the title.
Darkedge 9th March 2007, 12:53 Quote
do it. The loss of people advertising will balance out in the end and parent SHOULD take more responsability.
the culture of blame and somebody else problem has to stop
Mother-Goose 9th March 2007, 15:09 Quote
I filly agree with the scheme. I'm 21 so I'm not exactly going to get propositioned but I fully agree with the scheme and it's ideals. I don't think anyone would class this as nanny state, it is for the protection of minors.
sam.g.taylor 9th March 2007, 15:40 Quote
I like the idea. I live in Connecticut myself, and let me tell you that Richard Blumenthal, even with his comb-over, is still one of the best civil servants I have seen. He uses discretion in choosing his cases and his office has gone after many, many internet scammers and e-criminals. I hope no one thinks he's like that guy who went after "Bully" and other video games.
Connecticut has had a freakish number of Myspace-related sex crimes over the past two years (compared to the rest of the US). If the parents won't step up to the task of protecting their kids, then the state has to be relied upon, and its job is getting harder. Many times, the offenders will live in other states, and that creates extradition complications and really prevents our state government from protecting its own kids (which, of course, it shouldn't have to).

Besides, Myspace now sucks anyway. Facebook is where it's at. (No offense, Doug)
Nix 9th March 2007, 15:49 Quote
I think it would be a good idea if it didnt have the credit card idea... and also for example i dont think it should flag it unless the theres a serious age difference with younger people. For example an 11 year old talking to 15/16 year olds is ok but i think it should flag it if 20+ yr old adds an 11 year old.

Also does this work vice versa? what if the 11 year old adds people who are 20 odd.
DarkLord7854 9th March 2007, 16:33 Quote
Credit Card is only way to safely and fully confirm age.
I like this idea as long as it doesn't affect online forum communities.
Flibblebot 9th March 2007, 18:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by DarkLord7854
Credit Card is only way to safely and fully confirm age.
I like this idea as long as it doesn't affect online forum communities.
Unless, of course, the child knows where mommy keeps her credit cards...
No online ID verification can be truly foolproof because, being a long-distance thing, it relies on the honesty of one of the parties.

The only way to truly achieve verification would be for applicants to go to their local government office (DMV, council buildings, whatever) and apply in person with verifiable photo ID.
Hugo 10th March 2007, 10:46 Quote
While a good idea, it's completely impractical to make it mandatory.
bilbothebaggins 10th March 2007, 14:35 Quote
I don't think that it would be practical to make this mandatory for all social community sites (every forum could fall in that category).
It should be ok however when major players adopt such policies ...
Tulatin 11th March 2007, 06:30 Quote
Honestly, there'll be loopholes in the system, they'll be exploited, and again, oh no! Rush in the big brother and big sister (or nanny) state - it's not the parent's fault for not giving a rat's ass what their child does or where they go, it's not the person who set it up's fault (oh no, no, they need help!) it's the big bad corperation not doing enough to protect the kids from falling off the proverbial jungle gym.

[I'm not for supporting the asshats that take advantage of children, but i'm far and for the removal or moronic constraints that do nothing against the problems, just ones that slow down the legitimate users]

Besides, it requires credit card numers, now does it? Makes newscorp ever so much more the sweet to knock over...
Kipman725 11th March 2007, 19:48 Quote
won't work lots of sites use age verification based on credit cards such as ebay and paypal. But even though I am under 18 I still use these sites because I have a card that apears to be a credit card (just can't go over drawn on it) and even if I didn't I would be able to sign up for a virtual credit card which money could be deposeted on by other means.

I also don't see whats so bad about a child having adult freinds, I have many friends that are over 18 and they are very usefull to me.
randosome 11th March 2007, 22:47 Quote
i think the kind of card your refering to is a debit card

Any you can sign up to paypal at any age, its stupid, it says you must be 18 but it doesn't actually check, it doesn't even ask for your DoB
But yeah, this just seems stupid to me in a way, people will just get round it somehow
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