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Sims' same sex relationships gets 18+ Russian rating

Sims' same sex relationships gets 18+ Russian rating

The Sims has featured same sex relationships since its initial release in 2000. The feature was included without fanfare or controversy.

Same sex relationships in The Sims 4 has netted the title an 18+ rating in Russia due to the country’s controversial anti-homosexuality laws.

The rating, which is also considered ‘prohibited for children’ in Russia, has been granted due to the same gay propaganda laws passed in 2010 that caught the attention of the international community around the Sochi Winter Olympic Games.

Talking to Polygon, EA confirmed that they have no intention of altering the game for the market.

’We have no plans to alter The Sims 4,’ said Sims spokesperson Deborah Coster. ’One of the key tenets of The Sims is that it is up to the player to decide how to play the game. We provide the simulation sandbox and player choice and creativity does the rest.’

Same sex relationships have been in the Sims series since the first game and was according to The Sims 4’s lead AI programmer David Graham, was simply included by lead engineer Jamie Doornboos one day without him consulting anyone and without him being challenged on it.

Previous titles in the Sims series have escaped the adults only rating in Russia as they have predated the 2010 law with The Sims 3 being released in 2009. The Sims 4 is currently scheduled for a late 2014 release and will be shown off more at this year’s E3 conference.

Last week, Nintendo came under fire for excluding same sex relationships from its own life-sim, Tomodachi Life. The company did however apologise for the omission and pledged to include the feature if they work on another instalment to the series, arguing that it was a simple oversight rather than a specific agenda held by the company.

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Guinevere 12th May 2014, 11:15 Quote
Number of people shocked by this = Zero.

Putin, while he seems to have tried his best to turn himself into a gay icon is a nasty little bigot.

Too sexy for my shirt, so sexy it hurts:

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/photo/15735501.cms
Nexxo 12th May 2014, 11:30 Quote
And I do my little turn on the Crimea
Yeah, on the Crimea, on the Crimea, yeah
I shake my little tush on the Crimea...


:p
Corky42 12th May 2014, 11:56 Quote
Guinevere, I'm disappointed you didn't post the shot of Putin with someones rod in hand. ;)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/12/03/article-2517383-19CE497000000578-268_306x554.jpg
loftie 12th May 2014, 13:48 Quote
Confused as to why not having a shirt on makes you gay/a gay icon.....

I can't see why anyone would be shocked by Russia's 18+ rating tbh. I mean it's Russia. I'm surprised other countries aren't doing it either to protect the fragile little minds of children, or some such nonsense.
Corky42 12th May 2014, 14:58 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
Confused as to why not having a shirt on makes you gay/a gay icon.....

I can't see why anyone would be shocked by Russia's 18+ rating tbh. I mean it's Russia. I'm surprised other countries aren't doing it either to protect the fragile little minds of children, or some such nonsense.

I don't think it's just the matter of not wearing a shirt, it's more to do with being shirtless combined with the unfortunate way the photos were taken.

And don't give other countries ideas :) The UK already has measures in place to protect the fragile little minds of children, the last thing they need is encouragement to take things further.
DC74 12th May 2014, 16:02 Quote
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Originally Posted by loftie
Confused as to why not having a shirt on makes you gay/a gay icon.....

I can't see why anyone would be shocked by Russia's 18+ rating tbh. I mean it's Russia. I'm surprised other countries aren't doing it either to protect the fragile little minds of children, or some such nonsense.

Fragile little minds haha! I agree with you there would always be some move somewhere to censor things governments don't want people to see and they use labels like `Protecting the Children'.

We live in the 21st century and there's the internet, kids aren't as fragile as we think or as daft they can get round just about anything, their minds are more adaptive than adults and can think out of the box more readily.

Putin's days are numbered, as soon as the world ramps up sanctions and isolates Russia I give it a year after that and he'll be gone probably by his own people giving a him a hand. No one in the west wants to start WWIII but he's pushing buttons to get a response, lets just hope he doesn't push the wrong one.
Harlequin 12th May 2014, 16:16 Quote
I hear Russia tried to annex part of the stage at Eurovision....
aramil 12th May 2014, 16:47 Quote
I heard that Russia have had a referendum on the Eurovision voting results & found that they won. 104% of the electorate turned out, of this 98% voted in favour the others went missing...... :p

Like banning things or restricting them has ever really worked. Generally means that they are wanted more.
loftie 12th May 2014, 17:06 Quote
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Originally Posted by Corky42
And don't give other countries ideas :) The UK already has measures in place to protect the fragile little minds of children, the last thing they need is encouragement to take things further.

I dunno, Eastenders is still on TV.
jrs77 12th May 2014, 18:38 Quote
Welcome back to the middle-ages.

Seriously, throw Russia out of the Eurovision, the FIFA European Championship, etc, etc... Russia is as far from Europe in culture and mindset as it can be and doesn't belong in any of the european events, just like many other of those eastern countries.

Let's have a look at the pre WW2 map to see what culturally belongs to europe....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Europe_in_1923.jpg

You can draw a pretty straight vertical line there actually. On the left side is all the european countries, and on the right side is Russia and Turkey.
That's how it has been since the middle-ages and even prior to that, and the mindset and culture hasn't changed much since then.
Nexxo 12th May 2014, 20:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by DC74
Putin's days are numbered, as soon as the world ramps up sanctions and isolates Russia I give it a year after that and he'll be gone probably by his own people giving a him a hand. No one in the west wants to start WWIII but he's pushing buttons to get a response, lets just hope he doesn't push the wrong one.

I think you don't understand how dictatorship works very well. See how well isolationism works for North Korea, for instance.
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Originally Posted by jrs77
Welcome back to the middle-ages.

Seriously, throw Russia out of the Eurovision, the FIFA European Championship, etc, etc... Russia is as far from Europe in culture and mindset as it can be and doesn't belong in any of the european events, just like many other of those eastern countries.

Let's have a look at the pre WW2 map to see what culturally belongs to europe....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Europe_in_1923.jpg

You can draw a pretty straight vertical line there actually. On the left side is all the european countries, and on the right side is Russia and Turkey.
That's how it has been since the middle-ages and even prior to that, and the mindset and culture hasn't changed much since then.

As soon as someone argues for segregation based on "cultural differences" I get the creeps. I mean, as a Dutchman I think that British culture is a bit f***ed up too, but you don't hear me arguing that the UK should be booted from the EU.

Cultural segregation usually ends up with ethnic cleansing or genocide somewhere down the line. I think that nations --and people-- learning to tolerate, and even respect each others' cultural differences and getting over themselves a bit is the only path to sane geopolitical interaction.
hyperion 12th May 2014, 21:05 Quote
Too bad going to war is easier than getting over themselves.
jrs77 12th May 2014, 21:49 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
As soon as someone argues for segregation based on "cultural differences" I get the creeps. I mean, as a Dutchman I think that British culture is a bit f***ed up too, but you don't hear me arguing that the UK should be booted from the EU.

Cultural segregation usually ends up with ethnic cleansing or genocide somewhere down the line. I think that nations --and people-- learning to tolerate, and even respect each others' cultural differences and getting over themselves a bit is the only path to sane geopolitical interaction.

I just wanted to explain where the current and historical line splits the eurasian continent and that it still shows very dramatically when you look at the mindset of their politicians and high percentages of the popularity in these countries.

I'd be glad if it would be otherwise, but I think that it takes another two or three generations or half a century to change.

Anyways, the ball is in the russian half. Just sayin'
Flibblebot 12th May 2014, 22:32 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
...as a Dutchman I think that British culture is a bit f***ed up too, but you don't hear me arguing that the UK should be booted from the EU.
No need, most Brits are arguing for that already (and don't get me started on how stupid an idea that is :()
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
Cultural segregation usually ends up with ethnic cleansing or genocide somewhere down the line. I think that nations --and people-- learning to tolerate, and even respect each others' cultural differences and getting over themselves a bit is the only path to sane geopolitical interaction.
I think most sensible people already think that. The problems start to arise when politicians get involved in the mix.
Harlequin 12th May 2014, 22:44 Quote
everytime I here that farrag bloke it makes me think of the movie `V for Vendetta`
wolfticket 13th May 2014, 00:07 Quote
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Originally Posted by Nexxo
I think you don't understand how dictatorship works very well. See how well isolationism works for North Korea, for instance.



As soon as someone argues for segregation based on "cultural differences" I get the creeps. I mean, as a Dutchman I think that British culture is a bit f***ed up too, but you don't hear me arguing that the UK should be booted from the EU.

Cultural segregation usually ends up with ethnic cleansing or genocide somewhere down the line. I think that nations --and people-- learning to tolerate, and even respect each others' cultural differences and getting over themselves a bit is the only path to sane geopolitical interaction.
I really hate the idea of dividing Europe upon historical/cultural grounds.
However there is a difference between intolerance/segregation based on cultural differences and policy of trading, cultural and sporting isolation due to unacceptable governmental backed discrimination within a given state.
See South Africa during apartheid for example.

Cultural acceptance has it's limits.
Guinevere 13th May 2014, 01:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by jrs77
Seriously, throw Russia out of the Eurovision

You know things are getting serious when one of our possible sanctions is excluding them from Eurovision!

If that doesn't make Putin see the error of his ways, I suggest we take him off the Christmas card list.
Shirty 13th May 2014, 01:18 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
I suggest we take him off the Christmas card list.

It's the only way to be sure.
debs3759 13th May 2014, 03:00 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nexxo
I mean, as a Dutchman I think that British culture is a bit f***ed up too, but you don't hear me arguing that the UK should be booted from the EU.
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Originally Posted by Flibblebot
No need, most Brits are arguing for that already (and don't get me started on how stupid an idea that is :()

I think most sensible people already think that. The problems start to arise when politicians get involved in the mix.

As a Brit who would rather be known as a citizen of the planet than one small island, I also think the UK is fµcked up. The biggest problem I see is that most people who want change don't vote for it. It's all about the politics, where the rich rule over the 99%.
mi1ez 13th May 2014, 05:30 Quote
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Originally Posted by Guinevere
Number of people shocked by this = Zero.
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Originally Posted by loftie
I can't see why anyone would be shocked by Russia's 18+ rating tbh.

I'm shocked. Shocked they allowed it in at all!
Nexxo 13th May 2014, 09:00 Quote
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Originally Posted by wolfticket
I really hate the idea of dividing Europe upon historical/cultural grounds.
However there is a difference between intolerance/segregation based on cultural differences and policy of trading, cultural and sporting isolation due to unacceptable governmental backed discrimination within a given state.
See South Africa during apartheid for example.

Cultural acceptance has it's limits.

Yup, but those scenarios are handled with a delicate balance of promise of inclusion and threat of exclusion. Carrot and stick.
Waynio 13th May 2014, 09:34 Quote
A good sudden insane laugh is an orgasm of the mind, a braingasm, I like those & Right said Putin made me have one.

Ahhh, awesomeness from the bit-techerinos, optimism +1. :D
phinix 13th May 2014, 09:45 Quote
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Originally Posted by Gareth Halfacree
The Sims 4 has been classified as 'prohibited for children' in Russia because of its inclusion of same sex relationships.
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2014/05/12/sims-same-sex-relationships-18-russian-rat/1

That's good news, for Russia. It should be 18+ in all countries.
..and don't even get me started about Eurovision... Poland - last bastion of heterosexualism in Europe:D
Waynio 13th May 2014, 09:48 Quote
Jiggles & giggles.

It's very overated being traditionally unhappy.
Santa-san 14th May 2014, 09:30 Quote
Swedish person here. An 18+ rating for this seems so silly to me, it is good see that Russia is getting closer to America though. 12year olds playing CoD all day and no one cares, but anything remotely sexual is immediately banned or censored.
Just the other day a friend of mine told me she lets her 12 year old daughter play CoD (alone) once in a while, as a break from minecraft which they play together. Hmm...
hyperion 14th May 2014, 11:37 Quote
Yes, it's ironic that some young teens know more about weapons than sex while they're more likely to have sex than shoot someone.
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