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Custom PC digital edition now available

Custom PC digital edition now available

You can read Zinio copies on your PC or your iPad.

We're happy to announce that at long, long last a digital version of Custom PC magazine is now available to buy online, via Zinio.

Zinio provides a digital facsimile of the issue, so it's laid out exactly as it is in the print edition with all the same content. You can then read the magazine on your PC or Mac, or via Zinio's free Reader App on the iPhone and iPad. You can zoom the pages, view them in fullscreen mode and the app also allows the reader to view all the pages of the magazine to be displayed at once so you can find a specific page with ease.

You can download issues for offline viewing and your purchases are saved and tracked by your Zinio account. And how much does it cost? Well, we're offering digital subscriptions at £35/$53.94 US for a year (12 copies). Single issues will cost £3.50/$5.40, compared to a newsstand price of £4.50/$12.25.

The current issue on sale via Zinio is issue 85. While Issue 86 has just become available in the shops, as Issue 85 features the ever popular PC Building Masterclass feature, we thought we'd start there. Issue 86 will be available early next week, and going forward, digital copies will be released at the same time as print copies.

Grab yourself something to read this weekend, and buy your digital copy now!

Of course, if you would like to subscribe to the paper issue of Custom PC magazine, that's cool too.

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Phalanx 24th September 2010, 18:19 Quote
More expensive than the paper version! At least there you get it delivered, and don't need to be at a computer/mac/ipad to read it! Wow...

I guess at least it's an option, anyway.
Fordy 24th September 2010, 18:20 Quote
Two questions..

How does the price compare to paper copies?

Downloadable? What format, ie. is there any ereader app compatibility, or do Zinio have their own app, and on what platforms?

Neat to see you doing his though guys, was searching on some emag database a while ago to see if CPC was on there, but there was nothing from Dennis Pub.
Phalanx 24th September 2010, 18:23 Quote
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Originally Posted by Fordy
Two questions..

How does the price compare to paper copies?

Downloadable? What format, ie. is there any ereader app compatibility, or do Zinio have their own app, and on what platforms?

Neat to see you doing his though guys, was searching on some emag database a while ago to see if CPC was on there, but there was nothing from Dennis Pub.

It's more expensive (by £3 if I've done my math). Zinio support PC, Mac and iPad. They have their own reader aswell.
Snubbs 24th September 2010, 18:24 Quote
Will this be viewable on my iPhone? Additionally, why is each issue so expensive? I appreciate that a lot of effort goes into making the magazine, and granted costs will apply with the digital distribution system, however surely the removed cost of printing will make production cheap enough to sell the mag at a better price?

Personally, I prefer a printed magazine compared to an "e-mag", however it would be useful to have a copy on my iPhone for reference every now and then. Have you considered offering back-issues - older than 6 months e.g. 12 for £12?

Also, will old issues be available? I assume you've still got the PDFs (or equivalents?)

And finally, I assume the adverts will still be packed into the mag (not an annoyance, but more a consideration given the price - if adverts weren't in, I would understand the price, however if they are in there, then surely a higher profit is been made on the digital version compared to printed?)

I hope I'm not coming across as negative - I just thought I'd share my concerns :-P

** just to be clear, I know CPC is a business just like MS, Apple or even Argos, however obviously CPC depends upon it's readers and community! Personally I've directed a few mates to subscriptions/in-shop purchases of CPC**
Sifter3000 24th September 2010, 18:24 Quote
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Originally Posted by Ph4lanx
More expensive than the paper version! At least there you get it delivered, and don't need to be at a computer/mac/ipad to read it! Wow...

It's only more expensive than a 12 month UK subscription and that's because we're able to discount those heavily as we can bill you via Direct Debit.

Single copies from Zinio are cheaper, and it's far cheaper for overseas readers as both a single copy and subscription.
Snubbs 24th September 2010, 18:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Sifter3000
Single copies from Zinio are cheaper, and it's far cheaper for overseas readers as both a single copy and subscription.

This is a good point actually! I've noticed plenty of times people have requested information on international shipping - iirc, someone from Wales was complaining about availability and posting?
Sifter3000 24th September 2010, 18:27 Quote
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Originally Posted by Snubbs
Additionally, why is each issue so expensive? I appreciate that a lot of effort goes into making the magazine, and granted costs will apply with the digital distribution system, however surely the removed cost of printing will make production cheap enough to sell the mag at a better price?

Paper and printing cost a lot less than you think. £3.50 seems fair to me for an issue of the mag that's digital.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snubbs
Personally, I prefer a printed magazine compared to an "e-mag", however it would be useful to have a copy on my iPhone for reference every now and then. Have you considered offering back-issues - older than 6 months e.g. 12 for £12?

I would like to put old issues on there, but it's actually quite a lot of work - you have to regenerate the PDFs from the original InDesign files on a page per page basis. We'll see how it sells and then look at getting the archive on there.
Quote:
And finally, I assume the adverts will still be packed into the mag (not an annoyance, but more a consideration given the price - if adverts weren't in, I would understand the price, however if they are in there, then surely a higher profit is been made on the digital version compared to printed?)

Adverts are still in the mag for the very practical reason that if you take them out, all the double page spreads get screwed up!
Snubbs 24th September 2010, 18:31 Quote
Just to be clear Alex, I wasn't being negative - I appreciate your input and job in the CPC mag and community, I just wanted some questions answering - after all - I am doing a Business degree, and all information I can gather (and perspective in the commercial world) - regardless of industry is helpful :-P

More than anything - this kind of thing just intrigues me :-P

I wonder if you could do a printed+digital combo for people like myself at an attractive price?
Fizzl 24th September 2010, 18:32 Quote
No paper + digital combo? :(

Also android would be nice!
daletur328 24th September 2010, 18:32 Quote
As a subscriber to the mag already, is there going to be any discount or a Free!! addition for them? Just interested as I would also like a digital version that I can carry around for a browse or reference?
Its either that or buy a copy and see how it is and then cancel subscription if I like it, I know its more expensive but to be hohnest I could pick and choose those I want.
murraynt 24th September 2010, 18:33 Quote
Now i will have to bring my lappy into the jacks and every will be thinking i am watching porn :(
Lizard 24th September 2010, 18:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by murraynt
Now i will have to bring my lappy into the jacks and every will be thinking i am watching porn :(

Well, you will be looking at tech porn :)
Sifter3000 24th September 2010, 18:37 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snubbs
Just to be clear Alex, I wasn't being negative - I appreciate your input and job in the CPC mag and community, I just wanted some questions answering - after all - I am doing a Business degree, and all information I can gather (and perspective in the commercial world) - regardless of industry is helpful :-P

Of course, no worries - happy to talk more over email if you want some info for your degree.
Quote:
Originally Posted by daletur328
As a subscriber to the mag already, is there going to be any discount or a Free!! addition for them? Just interested as I would also like a digital version that I can carry around for a browse or reference?

I would really like to do that - however, figuring out how to make it happen is a bit trickier than you might expect. It's probably something we'd need to wait till next year for, because we'd need a much more robust user account system here to track your account status; we also need to figure out how many copies we'll sell through Zinio, then do some kind of price model for it.

TL;DR: Yes, but not anytime soon.
cgthomas 24th September 2010, 18:41 Quote
That's really great news as I just wanted to pop out to Tesco to get the new issue
Thanks
mike_dowler 24th September 2010, 18:43 Quote
I commented on the other thread about the price of a subscription - again, not trying to be negative, just pointing out that (unfortunately) the price wasn't attractive for me. However, I thought the single issue price was very fair... until I just tried to buy an issue. The quoted price of £3.50 is EX VAT, so the actual price is £4.11. (I understand that this is not something you have any control over, but it's an important consideration!). Similarly, the subscription cost works out at £41.13 if you live in the UK. Both those prices will be going up further still in the new year.

I was really looking to zinio as a solution to the problem of having magazines cluttering up the house, but sadly it seems it is not to be.
streetuk 24th September 2010, 18:51 Quote
I bought this as soon as i read it, i buy it every month so the price wasnt an issue for me really. I hope in future you can add features like direct links to articles on the front page or contents page. Also things like in a review and it says supplier - www.scan.co.uk for example, it takes you directly to the product on their site. Seems a step backwards on the iPad at the moment compared to Wired's magazine app (although i'm not too bothered about seeing a graphics card rotating in 3D, it would be cool)
cgthomas 24th September 2010, 18:55 Quote
Will there be any back to back issues after the next issue?
Deadpunkdave 24th September 2010, 19:32 Quote
Great news, as someone who moves digs/country quite a bit I had just given up and cancelled all my physical subscriptions a while ago. You just regained a subscriber ;)
bigkingfun 24th September 2010, 19:36 Quote
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Originally Posted by cgthomas
Will there be any back to back issues after the next issue?

+1
Boscoe 24th September 2010, 19:51 Quote
If I am subscibed to the printed version will there be a different price?
SpectreAU 24th September 2010, 20:09 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boscoe
If I am subscibed to the printed version will there be a different price?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sifter3000

I would really like to do that - however, figuring out how to make it happen is a bit trickier than you might expect. It's probably something we'd need to wait till next year for, because we'd need a much more robust user account system here to track your account status; we also need to figure out how many copies we'll sell through Zinio, then do some kind of price model for it.

Contemplating purchasing a subscription as I'm in Australia... But not sure about the fact that you can only use the Zinio Reader to read the magazine. I'd prefer a PDF format, but I assume it's their way of preventing piracy?
mrbens 24th September 2010, 20:14 Quote
Why bother when all the good bits are available to read free on bit-tech anyway?

Suppose it's down to personal preference but I prefer to read the printed magazine than an ebook.
capnPedro 24th September 2010, 20:16 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbens
Why bother when all the good bits are available to read free on bit-tech anyway?

Suppose it's down to personal preference but I prefer to read the printed magazine than an ebook.

My thoughts exactly. A paper magazine has value to me, but if I had to read Custom PC on my PC, I wouldn't bother.
Jazman 24th September 2010, 20:22 Quote
Wow, I'm really pleased about this digital version being available, I live in South Africa and CPC is not available over here, £35 for 12 copies in an absolute bargain, believe me, I normally have to pay £7 - £14 for PC Advisor and PC Pro respectively and they are usually 2 months out of date. It would be nice to be able to get back copies at a reduced price as well. I posted a request some time ago in the forums for a digital copy and I am so pleased that it is now available, I'm really looking forward to some quality PC reading.
Cheers
Paul
HourBeforeDawn 24th September 2010, 20:48 Quote
lol why pay for something you get for free??? sorry but paper form tech magazines are dead, the info is always out of date and a digital version wont help things when there are hundreds of good free tech news sites.
Jim 24th September 2010, 21:12 Quote
If they were dead, I think they'd have gone bust by now.
GregTheRotter 24th September 2010, 21:29 Quote
effing unreal that a digital version is the same price as paper. gtfo tbh.
eddtox 24th September 2010, 21:51 Quote
Kudos for heading in the right direction, but pricing will need tweaking before I am interested. Maybe some kind of system whereby you can get a digital copy for 50p if you already bought the hard copy.
Bakes 24th September 2010, 21:54 Quote
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Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
lol why pay for something you get for free??? sorry but paper form tech magazines are dead, the info is always out of date and a digital version wont help things when there are hundreds of good free tech news sites.

Custom PC tends to focus on stuff that you can't find as well online, such as the Labs Tests and build a pc guides. It's not for everyone, but it's worth reading imo.
lewchenko 24th September 2010, 22:04 Quote
Hmmmm...

The following needs to happen before I consider it :

1. The Price. It needs to be less than the UK print subscription price. Simple as that. And if what the guy said above is true about it being £35 plus VAT, then its a rip off.

2. Why cant you just sell a PDF ? Or something else that I could easily view on an iPad.

3. Speaking of which... is an iPad or iPhone / Android app version planned.

4. For people who already subscribe to print, then they should get a discount.


Personally I think the pricing will kill this off pretty quick if you have to pay VAT on top of the prices quoted. Shame.
Volund 24th September 2010, 22:05 Quote
I would actually have considered this (as I live in the US, I've seen CPC exactly once, and that was in Hong Kong.....), but it costs more than double the subscription price of Maximum PC and CPU in print (in fact I could get a year's subscription to both for less than getting CPC in this digital format). It just seems excessive to me, perhaps you guys are just used to higher prices for your tech magazines.

I'll be sticking with bit-tech for now ;)
jimmyjj 24th September 2010, 22:36 Quote
I like the idea because I have to throw away old hard copies because of space in my flat...

Really though I would want a hard copy subscription plus pay a small extra fee for digital back up copy all in one price.

The price is too high for digital only. I agree with others that is should be no higher than a hard copy 12 month subscription.
deathtaker27 25th September 2010, 01:06 Quote
should be andriod compatible.
kingjohn 25th September 2010, 02:41 Quote
it might be ok for those that like that kind of thing ,but it aint my kinda thing, electric guitars ok but reading everything with a pc or some dumb gadet ,,4get-about it man, its tooo cheap .and what about all the jobs that might go away never to retun if it all goes electric gooogleyyy eyes and stuff .the print industry is too important to drop unlike those micro-dots .peace and LOVE from hendrix plc. ima voooodoooo chil.....
Bindibadgi 25th September 2010, 05:09 Quote
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Originally Posted by GregTheRotter
effing unreal that a digital version is the same price as paper. gtfo tbh.

The value is in the content not the media it comes on. Should I expect an 80% discount buying one of your photos digitally than getting it sent on a piece of paper?
Kingsley813 25th September 2010, 08:11 Quote
Seeing as I've been a subscriber since 2004, why can't subscribers get this content at a heavily discounted rate? Because now the so called "special subscriber edition" doesn't really mean anything. Furthermore, it really gets annoying to see the same reviews here on bit-tech as in the magazine, for free, with more pictures, more graphs and analysis.

To be honest, the pricing needs to change, because it actually does not make sense subscribing when it is all on the website in greater detail.
Memnoch-fr 25th September 2010, 08:38 Quote
Much cheaper to purchase in France compared to paper copy in any case :). May buy october issue to see what all the noise is about
runadumb 25th September 2010, 08:45 Quote
Okay I pretty much agree with everyone here (obviously except kingjohn, who's clearly high) that the price is off putting, it needs to be cheaper for the 12 months. I have a customPC subscription and do like the idea of this sort of thing but like steam, kindle and other digitally distributed media it has to be cheaper than the physical hard copy. I won't be using this in the same way I don't buy £30 games from steam when they are £15-£18 from Amazon or play, it just doesn't make sense.

I know you guys are just dipping your toes in and it's only the UK guys complaining about the price but I see a future in this. As someone mentioned above it would be cool if these digital versions could have comments and active links or embedded videos. Maybe that's something more to do with the reader software than you guys but it would make me consider a tablet in the future (when the price and functionality of them makes sense). Actually a tablet is the only way I would use something like this so I will file it under "maybe in the future"

Hope it goes well (but seriously sort out that 12 month price)
dunx 25th September 2010, 09:49 Quote
As I grow older...

Anyway, I'm going to be positive, some of your fancy print techniques can be hard to actually read !

At least on screen I'll not need my LED spotlight to decipher grey text on a "pretty" background.

dunx

P.S. Adding VAT on top is naughty
memeroot 25th September 2010, 10:38 Quote
id think about paying for access to all issues as a backup but sadly not at that price.... the economist gets it right with the online as an addition
B1GBUD 25th September 2010, 11:00 Quote
If you're in the UK you can get 3 months subscription for £1 (I think all Dennis mags are available on this offer) then you pay £19.99 for a further 6 months (I think). Which works out a damn site cheaper!

I had the November edition delivered to my door, the full page covers are a fresh change to the usual PC mags that seem to cram as much as they can on the cover. I also get PC Pro delivered to my work!

Well done Dennis!
eddtox 25th September 2010, 12:03 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
it might be ok for those that like that kind of thing ,but it aint my kinda thing, electric guitars ok but reading everything with a pc or some dumb gadet ,,4get-about it man, its tooo cheap .and what about all the jobs that might go away never to retun if it all goes electric gooogleyyy eyes and stuff .the print industry is too important to drop unlike those micro-dots .peace and LOVE from hendrix plc. ima voooodoooo chil.....

Broken Window Fallacy
perplekks45 25th September 2010, 12:22 Quote
Just one thing that really pisses me off:

Why didn't you just publish it as EPUB?! There are EPUB readers for every platform out there, not another proprietary reader for another format we don't really need... or at least PDF?
Guinevere 25th September 2010, 13:49 Quote
It's obvious why Zinio is being used, it's a mature distribution platform that's already in wide use and therefore doesn't require Dennis CPC/BT to set up a new web platform to sell PDFs that would be shared by all sorts of people via email.

And I doubt Zinio does this from the goodness of their heart, so I assume they take a commission on each sale, so I wouldn't be surprised once the numbers are crunched if Dennis make less profit on each digital sale than they do a hard copy.

Having said this, the cost still "feels" to high here in the UK, and as history has proven if it "feels" too high then people won't pay.
Yslen 25th September 2010, 14:08 Quote
Good to see you guys are offering a digital edition at last, I've been expecting this announcement for a while now.

I'm sorry to say I agree with the comments on pricing though. At the moment it's great for international readers, but anyone considering a print or digital subscription will almost certainly go for the print version because it's both cheaper and nicer to read.

Almost everyone currently subscribed to the print version of CPC is going to ignore the digital edition completely because they already get a lovely printed copy through their door once a month.

The only way I see this working is to offer a digital-only subscription for a few pounds less than the print-only subscription and to offer a print-plus-digital subscription option for less than ten pounds more than the print-only subscription.

Unless this happens, I for one have no interest in a digital copy. As Rich said, it's the content that matters not the media. As a subscriber to the printed mag I've already got the content, so I'm not really taken with the idea of paying more than double my current subscription fee just to get that same content in another format alongside the paper copy.
HourBeforeDawn 25th September 2010, 18:53 Quote
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Originally Posted by Bakes
Quote:
Originally Posted by HourBeforeDawn
lol why pay for something you get for free??? sorry but paper form tech magazines are dead, the info is always out of date and a digital version wont help things when there are hundreds of good free tech news sites.

Custom PC tends to focus on stuff that you can't find as well online, such as the Labs Tests and build a pc guides. It's not for everyone, but it's worth reading imo.

heard of a site called AnandTech? they probably have some of the best build guide selections around, same goes for a lot of their lab testing and there free. My point is you can easily find this stuff on the net for free. The paper form is only good for people who dont have high speed internet or live the feel of a magazine. Making a tech magazine digital seems pointless because those who are able to read things online in the tech world is smart enough to know the sources where they can get it for free.
Taffy 25th September 2010, 19:09 Quote
I already get CPU mag on the net for free,which is similar to CPC, another mag I get gives you a chance to purchase all the mags (with an index) at the end of the year on a DVD which alleviates the problem of "mag Clutter" I have mentioned this before. yes both Anandtech and toms hardware are good sites and there are many more.
kingjohn 25th September 2010, 19:45 Quote
imo one reason for download or online content, against many for not my cuppa ,direct connection to other sites that have software used in a review to test hardware, or a recomended site link for info. and thats about it .
kingjohn 25th September 2010, 20:13 Quote
as a cpc subi i enjoy reading the mag coz it aint work its all to do with my free time and just like the song goes by The Cars - Just What I Needed. its just what was needed to fill it .
kingjohn 25th September 2010, 20:41 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddtox
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
it might be ok for those that like that kind of thing ,but it aint my kinda thing, electric guitars ok but reading everything with a pc or some dumb gadet ,,4get-about it man, its tooo cheap .and what about all the jobs that might go away never to retun if it all goes electric gooogleyyy eyes and stuff .the print industry is too important to drop unlike those micro-dots .peace and LOVE from hendrix plc. ima voooodoooo chil.....

Broken Window Fallacy

so your with me on this then .it aint just about the mag in print form , its about the print industry and all that it affects .good
leexgx 25th September 2010, 23:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_dowler
I commented on the other thread about the price of a subscription - again, not trying to be negative, just pointing out that (unfortunately) the price wasn't attractive for me. However, I thought the single issue price was very fair... until I just tried to buy an issue. The quoted price of £3.50 is EX VAT, so the actual price is £4.11. (I understand that this is not something you have any control over, but it's an important consideration!). Similarly, the subscription cost works out at £41.13 if you live in the UK. Both those prices will be going up further still in the new year.

I was really looking to zinio as a solution to the problem of having magazines cluttering up the house, but sadly it seems it is not to be.

the site should be updated then to put that in when saying its £3.50 or £35 when it is Not will piss buyers off after they have reg'ed and it says now you got to add VAT (that be 20% soon) not like we are in the USA states where you have to add sales tax

edit
to add to that even asks for your credit card info before totals, that in its self is the incorrect way to do it
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i wish to confirm that the prices at gb.zinio.com have VAT or not (when they Fully well know they should be in the UK) i have emailed them as well to ask
rjkoneill 26th September 2010, 02:06 Quote
but the contents of the magazine are posted on bit tech anyway?

so why would you buy it?
leexgx 26th September 2010, 06:17 Quote
confirmed it is £41.12 they are Not showing the inc VAT price

Please update This site to show that or tell them to adjust the price on there site so its £28.86 if you are wanting it to be £35 total with VAT
eddtox 27th September 2010, 11:44 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
so your with me on this then .it aint just about the mag in print form , its about the print industry and all that it affects .good

errm, no.
NethLyn 27th September 2010, 13:17 Quote
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Originally Posted by rjkoneill
but the contents of the magazine are posted on bit tech anyway?

so why would you buy it?

Other than What Hi Fi around Awards time (ie, now) CPC's the only other mag I buy anymore, call it habit. Now I pick my issues according to any future build rather than subbing, it's good to have the option there at last but these Electronic editions also have to compete with Daily Mail/Clubcard/Nectar vouchers at the supermarket which regularly bring down the price of the print mag for me.

If you want to pick a start point for digitising the old stuff, make it the change from white to black spines (issue 44) - any further back than that and the outlay to re-digitise the old stuff, vs the number of new buyers that would complete their collections electronically...without bundle pricing that might not work.
memeroot 27th September 2010, 13:28 Quote
you read the Daily Mail?
eddtox 27th September 2010, 13:44 Quote
and aren't sh*t scared of turning on your computer and walking out the door?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTu7GLfrmUI
NethLyn 27th September 2010, 14:35 Quote
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Originally Posted by memeroot
you read the Daily Mail?

Nope, but my rellies do and so passed on a load of Tesco vouchers a year ago that gave magazine discounts, the old credit crunch walk-in tokens that supermarkets put out all the time last year.
lacuna 27th September 2010, 17:49 Quote
I used to buy loads of magazines until about 10 years ago when I got the internet.
frontline 27th September 2010, 20:40 Quote
CPC does have a lot of duplicated articles, however it is still decent value and i think the 'group tests' seem to be more comprehensive and more frequent than bit-tech provides (my impression at least). I don't think i would pay for an electronic copy though, if i've made the effort to boot up the PC/laptop i'll just generally browse various tech sites, including bit-tech.

Hope it fills a gap in the market for some overseas readers though and is a success.
maximus09 28th September 2010, 11:19 Quote
awesome guysm thanks for going to the trouble of doing digital copies! I am already a subscriber so will probably wait until you offer digital copies to existing subscribers for free or discounted before I try it out, can't wait though!!

And would definately buy the entire back catalogue!!
Lance 28th September 2010, 15:22 Quote
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Originally Posted by deathtaker27
should be andriod compatible.

Dunno if someone else mentioned this.

But it will be android compatable, I got a look at the android beta zimeo yesterday, comes through very well.

On the Ipad the quality is AMAZING, looks brilliant. And they're working on a new app format that will make it even more accessible.
Lance 28th September 2010, 15:23 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by leexgx
confirmed it is £41.12 they are Not showing the inc VAT price

Please update This site to show that or tell them to adjust the price on there site so its £28.86 if you are wanting it to be £35 total with VAT

There's no vat on magazines.
Sifter3000 28th September 2010, 15:26 Quote
I'm just having a look in to the VAT situation.
eddtox 28th September 2010, 16:06 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance
There's no vat on magazines.

I think digital is subject to VAT, but print isn't.
At least that's what Amazon says when I go to buy kindle books.
Undoubtedly a loophole which the Govmnt has no interest in plugging as it gives them more money.
Mongwopman 28th September 2010, 16:37 Quote
I'd prefer to actual hold a copy of a magazine that Ive paid cash for.

Just better justifes spending my cash!
leexgx 29th September 2010, 00:20 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by eddtox
I think digital is subject to VAT, but print isn't.
At least that's what Amazon says when I go to buy kindle books.
Undoubtedly a loophole which the Govmnt has no interest in plugging as it gives them more money.

Print or digital is subject to VAT
cool_dude 29th September 2010, 00:32 Quote
whaaaat? more expensive than the paper version?

Its already digital before they print it!

No postage costs, no printage costs, just server costs for uploading a file and yet more expensive than a paper version - that goes to newsagents etc

crazy.
frenchscottie 29th September 2010, 02:15 Quote
I can't wait until they bring out the 3d holographic version. Just imagine the graphics cards, motherboards, memory etc. spinning in any direction out of you screen.
Ok i've taken it too far now. sorry. lol
eddtox 29th September 2010, 11:56 Quote
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Originally Posted by leexgx
Print or digital is subject to VAT

I think certain print categories, such as books, newspapers, leaflets, posters etc are VAT exempt, but digital is always subject to VAT AFAIK. For more information visit http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageLibrary_PublicNoticesAndInfoSheets&propertyType=document&columns=1&id=HMCE_CL_000102
Tattysnuc 29th September 2010, 14:00 Quote
Tremendous idea, which I'm delighted to see. The format sounds like it's causing concern as there's not an agreed single standard (for Kindle, ipad, pc etc) but certainly a step in the right direction. If you can get the entire back catalogue done, and then index it accurately so that we know what we're buying this could be a tremendous source.

As a subscriber of 1 year+ of the hard copy of the magazine, I would love to see a back issue repository, where maybe we can pay a little more on the existing subscription to access the entire library, rather than pay on a per magazine basis.

I don't see how else a back catalogue can work if it's not indexed and referenced properly, otherwise the sheer cost (and face it, this is incremental business for you - the cost of printing to PDF all the old issues is a one off task which could easily be achieved for negligible additional cost, unless you no longer have the original files).

Ever considered doing each magazine as an actual web site, and then charging for it... oh wait. That's what the old CustomPC site was befor the merge... :)
leexgx 1st October 2010, 06:32 Quote
bump

update on the costs yet as i know its

shown price £35
VAT £6.13
Total: £41.13

also note its not complete correct the way that site operates Not showing VAT when the web site is selected on UK could be classed as not legal or as miss leading (and the Main Article as well), it does Show the VAT if you pick paypal once i picked UK (guessing the credit card side does as well but i am not going to test that)

i leave this to cook for 5 more days
leexgx 18th October 2010, 11:50 Quote
bump (super cooked for 20 days ish)

they have not updated the site to show all prices in VAT as well as ex-VAT (not just CPC) and your site still shows the incorrect price to boot as well

they are Miss selling the retail price and comparing VAT prices to none VAT prices (cover price is £42 there price is really £41.13)

e.g. (what quite funny but not at the same time as it says save 17% off lol)
Zinio Digital Price: £35.00 (no VAT, £41.13 with VAT once you get to checkout so not much saving there)
Save 17% off the Cover Price: £42.00 (with VAT) @ £3.50 per copy

Please tell them to correct the site to show all prices in VAT and ex-vat, they have no excuse as the site is set to GB (Price should be £28.88 or £28.87 on Zino site if you wanted it as £35)

you got about 2-3 days before i work out on how to report Zino to the related UK body's (i guess inland revenue), please do not delete this thread or remove it from the forums or remove the article from bit-techs home page

an related email has been sent to them as well
Fordy 18th October 2010, 18:33 Quote
Quote:
Originally Posted by leexgx
n how to report Zino to the related UK body's (i guess inland revenue),

Inland Revenue no longer exists since a merger, it is now Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, or HMRC.
leexgx 18th October 2010, 18:42 Quote
same thing
Erictheking96 20th October 2010, 11:51 Quote
I am a subscriber to the printed versions of both Custom PC and Mac Format magazines.

I am pleased that Custom PC is available now digitally.

However, Mac Format makes pdf versions of each issue available as FREE downloadable pdfs for their subscribers, in a password-protected subscriber site.

So being asked to pay another £35 + VAT for a digital subscription to Custom PC is very disappointing.
leexgx 12th February 2011, 20:23 Quote
now with vat £42 @ 20% (Zino is not showing vat on there listings until you have made an Zino account and entered your credit card details or Try and use paypal then it shows the vat)
the hard copy is £40 that's with VAT (12 months)

at best it should be £20-25 for 12 months but i do not know the price cost for zino or print, but others who sell there mags on there seem to be putting good prices on there

if your getting hard copy the digital one should be free or small cost (£1) and be portable (PDF file or on-line like zino)
Fordy 12th February 2011, 20:32 Quote
Do hard copy subscribers get access to the digital copies?

Finally got around to subscribing after 11/2 years of paying retail.
leexgx 24th February 2011, 06:56 Quote
nope
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