Left 4 Dead 2 banned in Australia

Valve's Left 4 Dead 2 has been banned in Australia due to excessive amounts of gore and featured melee weapons.

The Australian regulatory body, well-known for taking a hard line when it comes to game ratings, has announced that it has banned Left 4 Dead 2 in Australia.

The game was officially refused classification, meaning it cannot go on sale in the country, on the basis that it exceeded the limits of the MA15+ rating. Australia has no 18+ or AO rating as used in other countries, so if it's above a MA15+ then it is often denied classification.

This doesn't mean that the game will definitely not be available in Australia however, as Valve still has the option to release a localised version for the Australian market or to tone down the objectionable content in all versions before re-submitting the game for approval.

The specific complaints made by the Australian regulatory body, the Office of Film and Literature Classification, are listed below, via Kotaku.
  • The game contains violence that is high in impact and is therefore unsuitable for persons aged under 18 to play.

  • It notes that this violence is "inflicted upon ‘the Infected' who are living humans infected with a rabies-like virus that causes them to act violently."

  • The report singles out the use of melee weapons as those that "inflict the most damage" and cause "copious amounts of blood spray and splatter (sic), decapitations and limb dismemberment… or even cause intestines to spill from the wounds."

  • In conclusion, the Board finds that the "interactive nature of the game increases the overall impact of the frequent and intense depictions of violence. This coupled with the graphic depictions of blood and gore combine to create a playing impact which is high."

  • Interestingly, the report also reveals that it wasn't a unanimous decision and that "a minority of the Board is of the opinion that the violence is strong in playing impact and therefore warrants an MA15+ classification" instead. However, the majority voted to refuse classification.
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Quote mjm25 17th September 2009, 11:21
it's this and the traffic laws which i know i won't like in Oz.... quick qu though, if someone gifted this to me through Steam, would i actually be able to download it?
Quote steveo_mcg 17th September 2009, 11:26
Don't tell me the Australian cabinet or censor board want a trip to Valve HQ.
Quote logan'srun 17th September 2009, 11:28
mmmmmm - copious violence (homer voice)

This is already on my list to purchase, so no changes for me.

And no, you wouldn't be able to get the gift as they localize your IP.
Quote impar 17th September 2009, 11:32
Greetings!

The problem seems to be that there is no 18+ rating in Australia?
L4D really is a 18+ game.
Quote general22 17th September 2009, 11:36
Looks like Australia has boycotted L4D2
Quote Krikkit 17th September 2009, 11:36
Quote:
The report singles out the use of melee weapons as those that "inflict the most damage" and cause "copious amounts of blood spray and splatter (sic), decapitations and limb dismemberment… or even cause intestines to spill from the wounds."

:D
Quote bbshammo 17th September 2009, 11:36
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Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
Don't tell me the Australian cabinet or censor board want a trip to Valve HQ.

LOL, monkey see monkey want eh?

The Aussie Gov't. is like that though; always knee-jerk reactions and overly simplistic view of the world; not slamming the nation, just their adminsitration. This isn't the first time they've stormed ahead and banned things that other nations have managed to regulate without going so far as to ban.

Banning's the easy option as far as work's concerned and has absolutely no guarrantee of success, and causes all sorts of problems of its own.

They probably think they're being right, but really, they're just cutting corners and avoiding the real issue.

Jokers!!
Quote Platinum 17th September 2009, 11:37
You can definatly gift from one country to another, done it quite a few times before and no issues were had.
Quote Gremlin 17th September 2009, 11:46
Sometimes I really hate being Australian
Quote Gremlin 17th September 2009, 11:48
Quote:
Originally Posted by bbshammo
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
Don't tell me the Australian cabinet or censor board want a trip to Valve HQ.

LOL, monkey see monkey want eh?

The Aussie Gov't. is like that though; always knee-jerk reactions and overly simplistic view of the world; not slamming the nation, just their adminsitration. This isn't the first time they've stormed ahead and banned things that other nations have managed to regulate without going so far as to ban.

Banning's the easy option as far as work's concerned and has absolutely no guarrantee of success, and causes all sorts of problems of its own.

They probably think they're being right, but really, they're just cutting corners and avoiding the real issue.

Jokers!!


Nah mate its just because we do NOT have an 18+ system

over here the law is some minister from each state has to agree before they can impliment it, and some crusty old fart fromSouth Australia refuses to allow it, so really its one man holding our 18+ rating up

Thats the ONLY reason they ban some games here
Quote RichCreedy 17th September 2009, 12:06
baning things only makes them more desirable
Quote BenK 17th September 2009, 12:06
Good on them. The decapitations and dismemberment seems to be worse than in the original and there was just no need for it.
Quote jim48509 17th September 2009, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Gremlin
Sometimes I really hate being Australian

Me to mate.
Quote Floyd 17th September 2009, 12:21
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Originally Posted by impar
L4D really is a 18+ game.

Yea even though I mostly play with kids on L4D1 that are under 15...
Quote Hg 17th September 2009, 12:37
wow,
Thats bad, i can see why its banned but surely they should create a 18+ gaming cert as alot of gamers are now over this age and more and more developers will tap into this and make games for adults only to keep them gaming.

In another sense this game cant be as bad as GTA (i know Aus banned Manhunt etc) where you can walk round and beat LIVING people to a pulp with baseball bats, gun them down or play chicken with them and your car.
Quote mikeuk2004 17th September 2009, 12:39
Quote:
Originally Posted by general22
Looks like Australia has boycotted L4D2

lol,

Did L4D make it over there? if that was 18, why has this one been stopped?
Quote Littletron 17th September 2009, 13:36
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Originally Posted by BenK
Good on them. The decapitations and dismemberment seems to be worse than in the original and there was just no need for it.

lol there's every need...

its a zombie game, blowing up heads or removing of heads is what kills them, thought that was std knowledge.

I dont know what these do goodders thinks going to happen, my we will all start head shoting people or taking base ball bats to peoples heads.


lol. seriously if you screwed up in the head that much to do such a thing in real life then then you should be shot. I am sure there are worse things out there then a PC game... maybe they should remove all guns from the street, all wars to stop viewing on Tv.. the news alone should be banned because that no dought will give kids Ideas..

At what point do do goodders give up with all this nonsense and allow people to use common sense

rant ends lol.. :D
Quote Miffers 17th September 2009, 13:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gremlin
Sometimes I really hate being Australian

:D
Quote flibblesan 17th September 2009, 13:47
Quote:
Originally Posted by general22
Looks like Australia has boycotted L4D2

Gabe will have to fly Australia to the Valve HQ to play the game then, lol.
Quote wuyanxu 17th September 2009, 13:55
can't wait to see Zero Punctuation's take on this..........
Quote mclintox 17th September 2009, 13:57
And they call us "Whingeing poms!" .Re-arrange this popular phrase,pot black kettle calling the
Quote general22 17th September 2009, 14:04
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeuk2004
Did L4D make it over there? if that was 18, why has this one been stopped?

L4D was not banned, it was given a MA15+ rating here so for L4D2 to be Refused Classification now they must really have increased the gore factor.

Also you can see how stupid the rating system for games is when they approve all sorts of porn movies and then they ban L4D2.

http://www.oflc.gov.au/www/cob/find.nsf/ClassificationsByDate?OpenView
Quote p3n 17th September 2009, 14:08
Quote:
Originally Posted by steveo_mcg
Don't tell me the Australian cabinet or censor board want a trip to Valve HQ.

Wasnt that kid who made a L4D mod who got trolled by valve from OZ?
Quote pizan 17th September 2009, 14:13
Good thing they don't let you chop off a zombies arm and then use it as a melee weapon...wonder what they would say about that
Quote TTmodder 17th September 2009, 15:18
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Quote:
Originally Posted by impar
L4D really is a 18+ game.

Yea even though I mostly play with kids on L4D1 that are under 15...

Half the reason L4D1 quickly became boring for me,
After 3 hours playing on-line, i disabled Mic communication because i couldn't stand listening to their voices anymore, let alone their excessive use of words like "****"
Quote pimonserry 17th September 2009, 17:59
If it's not on sale in Australia and this story gets quite big, doesn't that just mean all the Australians will pirate it...?
(Not calling all Australians pirates, but if they can't buy it, and they still want it...)
Quote Mentai 17th September 2009, 19:19
Oh hey, this might actually mean the L4D1 community will survive in Australasia.

Australians will still be able to import this game/have it gifted through steam (I think RC just means it can't be sold IN the country), however I don't think they will legitimately be able to host servers. As a New Zealander, 95% of my games are on Oz servers, that's just where the players are. If it's banned there, I might as well not pick it up either.
Quote supaste 17th September 2009, 21:36
It annoys me how the differance between not being allowed to see a bit of gore and being able to see hardcore porn is just 3 years.
Quote lapens 17th September 2009, 22:26
+1 for Mentai. Even if we can obtain L4D2 from Steam, it won't be worth it as the online multiplayer community will be quite small, or non-existent. Apologies to our kiwi cousins - I wish there were more kiwi servers we too could play on!!
Quote mute1 18th September 2009, 00:15
It might well have been the correct decision given the ratings sytem. The problem simply is the lack of an R18+ rating for games. I'm tired of things being banned/censored here. Things will change eventually (whenever that is).
I have to say that some of the comments I have seen (I don't mean here) remind me of my cousin (who is English and lives in England), who believes that Australians are idiots, that the country is a joke, etc. He has never even been here. As a citizen of both countries, I can honestly say that each has its strong points and weak points. A lot of people move here permanently from Britain, though...
Also the article states that the 'Australian regulatory body [is] well-known for taking a hard line when it comes to game ratings'. In a way, they have often been quite lenient, allowing games to be classified as M15+ when they probably warranted R18+. Ironically, that is one of the strong arguments for introducing an R18+ rating for games. If anything, it would be more informative and help protect children, not the opposite as a certain South Australia attorney-general argues (with others).
Quote xprodancer 18th September 2009, 02:12
if anyone had sence they would import the full game! if you cant buy it in australia then import it from else where! how will they know????????
Quote Floyd 18th September 2009, 17:14
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTmodder
Half the reason L4D1 quickly became boring for me,
After 3 hours playing on-line, i disabled Mic communication because i couldn't stand listening to their voices anymore, let alone their excessive use of words like "****"

Thats one easy way to tell the boys from the men. From what ive seen and heard the kids cuss more. Heck half the time I mistake them for little girls lol.
Quote crompers 18th September 2009, 17:21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Floyd
Thats one easy way to tell the boys from the men. From what ive seen and heard the kids cuss more. Heck half the time I mistake them for little girls lol.

you should try an afternoon on Xbox live. its like a creche.

is it wrong that most of reasons they've banned the game for are exactly the ones that'll make me buy it?
Quote Star*Dagger 18th September 2009, 17:57
Man, I travel and live in the USA and EU alternatively, I have always found that the Aussies get the short end of the stick, first of all living in the Land of Lag, they can not compete with people in the EU and USA since it is so far away, and now some moron committee tells them they cant even HAVE a game.
I hope the Aussie gamers get some justice someday!

BTW, is this where Howard went to? He is chairing this committee I'd bet!

Yours in Friend of Australia Plasma,
Star*Dagger
Quote HourBeforeDawn 21st September 2009, 03:11
so what if you import this, would you be subject to fines or jail times if your caught??? or can you buy it else where and thats all legal, just that it cant be sold in that country?
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